Zombie Exodus: Safe Haven General Discussion (Part 3 beta coming in December)

I was thinking in Harvesting … Marriages and like to make other groups alliance get them drunken and get well bussiness. It doesn’t have to be PARTY in sense Maddie party a feast a tournament vs an ally. etc thats a party.

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Something interesting would be to bait a large group from their base to either ambush or fight them on a territory you know like your base or your hunting grounds after you laid traps and placed your fighters strategically. Since you know the area you can easily surround them and make them surrender or just kill them.

Another interesting idea could be to find a way to cause a worker/slave uprising and join it as it happen, maybe even smuggling weapons inside before it happen to help them. Maybe with a choice between a loud and direct day assault, a discreet night infiltration, taking out as many discretely until fighting starts from inside the camp, or just waiting it out and barging in once everyone’s weakenend if you’re a ruthless sort. The surviving workers could possibly join our camp or start their own faction. Or just leave something cool for us and head off toward the setting sun.

Something else I’ve seen and liked was the possibility of getting another group in on the assault/fight/infiltration whatever you decided to do. The extra help could come at the price of sharing the loot unless you wanna try to intimidate or sweet talk them out of it if they dont like you enough to just let you have it. Just more interactions with possible allies is really nice as the game grow in scale.

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What the hell Jaime? This is the first time I see him doing such crappy job at setting the teams. And I had good relationship with him, so there goes the theory that the relationship stat influences this.
Well, at least despite his “effort” we still won the battle without casualties (beside Sifer).

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Doing a party or event to me would have to be when it isn’t a problem.
E.g. “Good job, everyone.
This month we reached over our quota with enough leftover to relax a bit and this time intead of event we’ll be having a wedding for insert and insert.
Don’t forget even now we still people in watch duty, unless you wanna risk a wedding crasher.”
Or
“The Riverdogs are coming this weekend for a event, and agreed to bring half of the food, whoever is in watch duty will have one of them as a companion.”
@Cari-san I noticed you don’t have Jillian, Tommy and Dante.

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Yeah, that’s probably what influenced it. If I recall correctly Jillian and Dante are sorted in team 1 and Tommy in team 2 if we have them.
Anyway I told Jaime that I disagree with how he set the teams and I was surprised that there wasn’t an option to change it. Putting Lopez in team one probably would have made things better imo. As it is now my MC joined team one, but with her level 1 close combat, hand to hand combat and level 0 ranged weapons skill she wasn’t much of a help.
Edit: I’m trying to play basically as myself here so I didn’t go risk my life for a complete stranger, hence why I don’t have Dante. I didn’t let two complete strangers in my house, so no Jillian. And I didn’t feel safe to go anywhere near an angry mob, result: zombie Tommy. I have Rosie and Driver bc my “best bud”, Jaime voted for them, but I plan to keep an eye on them especially Rosie. Only out of character choice was to go out to talk to the soldiers, but I see Lopez as a too useful character to pass up on.

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I like the idea to fight in a familiar territory but, bringing the fight to our home base could also put the people in our group who aren’t capable of fighting in danger because they could be caught in the crossfire. Not to mention we would be exposing our location to the Silverthorne’s for a second time.

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Oh absolutely. No plans is without its dangers.

How would your MC’s group handle justice, both within the group and between other groups? How would your MC, as leader, deal with someone (any character in the group, whether you love or hate them) stealing food for themselves? A dispute with another group over scavenging a building?

If your MC is not the group leader, what policies made by Jaime/Rachel would you most disagree with and/or undermine?

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I’d administer punishment depending on their crime(as it should be)
Minor examples
Stealing a couple of food for late night snacks or something- gets less food for the next 2 weeks
Major examples
Hoarding valuable equipment/resources or selling/trading them for themselves:
1st time offence- a whipping in front of the camp as an example.
2nd offence- exile with 1 day of food and water and never return.
2nd offence but violent resistence(like taking out a weapon, hurting or killing someone in the process)- Short torture before death.
Might look a bit extreme, but there needs to be order and I like to think that I’m harsh but fair.

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Stealing
1st. Give Them a warning and they will have to give back what they stole or replace it.

  1. This time take away two days worth of food and water and all night watch duty.

3 time cut one of their arm.

  1. Flip a coin If lands on heads Exile them if on tails kill them

Murder

1st Cut off both of their arms, three days worth of food and water taken away and jail them for two months.

  1. I don’t know how their going to kill someone with no arms but they found away this kill them or Exile them we will decide with a flip of coin.
    Fighting
    No punshiment and let them fight as long as they don’t kill each other but after their done tell them not to fight no more.
    If a another group steal or kills someone in my group they will be exiled out if Calordo because I plan to take over all Calordo.

If my main mc who isn’t leader dose not like a rule or any of the rules he will do what wants when he wants. He does not care if they kick him out of the group he can survive on his own.

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Speaking of leader in the group. I don’t know why if i don’t want to become a leader most of the time jaime win and Rachel lose. Is there someway to make one candidate always win or it’s just random?

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Which survivors you have in the group influences things. There is no way for Kelly to win, but we can better Rachels chances if we don’t have Rosie and Driver who would vote for Jaime. Uh, not sure if that’s enough tho.

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May I ask, why you would cut off someones arms? To me it seems cruel dangerous and sorry to say that, but a bit silly? No offence but why would I want to feed someone, since with both arms lost, the survivor would only be a burden. While he recovers from the wound, if he does, he keeps at least one other survivor from their work, since he needs care.
In my mind it would be much easier to just kill the offender?

To answer the question myself.
I would make at least a little trial. Since I am not sure, that I would treat everyone the same, since I am human and therefor treat people different on my liking of them.
The punishments should be hard since I do not want to feed someone or keep them in a cage or something like that. So I would use Extra work, replacing what was taken, exile or death(I prefer a fast and as painless death as possible), I do not want to punish people but restrain them from doing wrong things from the beginning. I want to protect the survivors of the group so who is harming them should go, on free will, or go forever, but I would not want to get cruel or extra violent because of that

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I think my biggest problem with Jaime is how he would be willing to help anyone we come across. Set priorities first, the group should be the most important and everyone else should come only after that if they prove themselves worthy for that.
I think I more or less agree with Rachels methods. My only problem with her is when she tried to hide from everyone the nearby corpses Bailey found. They should at least recieve some kinda warning I think.

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To strike fear into people heart so no one else will ever think to disobey the rules.

After My mc cuts their arms of they will get prosthetic arms.

We well have at least one doctor and if anoyone else gets hurt less attention.

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Thank you for your time. :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

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Your welcome

So how will you a prosthetic arm and who’s the doctor?

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Getting the prosthetic arm will be the hard part and getting a doctor won’t be that hard. I have no idea we’re they keep prosthetic arms at but I think they will be in a hospital or supply dock. But I just offer the doctor protection or I will kidnapped them.

Wouldn’t it be better to cut of a foot? a foot is easier to replace and the offender keeps full function of his hands.
And I would advise you not to kidnap people for vital jobs for your community. Since in our society no one is born into slavery, it is best to use slaves for lower positions, where they could not sabotage real important things and are easier to supervise. You could never tell, if the kidnapped docter lets people die because the operation conditions are bad or if they do it on purpose. It was not without reason that slaves in former times were not used for high positions, and if they were, they mostly were born in slavery or had at least a chance to regain their freedom in certain ways.

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