Nope I need to send a message to the group
That’s why my mc won’t have the doctor working on people they will be train my group members.
You’re assuming a hell of a lot from that kidnapped doctor. What makes you think they’l teach good methods or wont even just let themselve die. You cant just enslave peoples, kill them and then just rinse and repeat until you find someone who aggree to follow you
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Cause you can control them mentally. Just send my mc or Rachel and they will now everything their is about medicine. They has high empathy so he will now if their lying
A common problem on this thread is that you guys assume everything will alway work just cause you will it in existence. No matter how charismatic you are you’l find peoples who just wont aggree and that tends to happen more often when you kidnap them and cut their arms off. Everything you guys propose would work better and would be easier if you just… didnt like… become sociopaths 3 days into the apocalypse. Peoples want to surviv and help each others. When someone assume everyone is gonna go 100% just for themselves its usually because they themselves would, not because peoples around them would.
Take real examples when you think about that stuff. Puerto rico for example. There’s looters yeah. There’s peoples who only think about themselves. But for everyone of them you have whole communities supporting each others and cooperating for their better good without having to lower themselves to torture and intimidation.
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Well if all I said above doesn’t work my mc have to move to extracting information the hard way what most people don’t get my main mc won’t stop until he gets what he wents even tho he’s a good guy
In terms of my group, the handing out of punishments and justice would be quite simple.
I wouldn’t really expect too much chaos and crime inside my group-my MC has proven to be a very charming lad and a more than competent leader, and is friends/best friends with practically everyone in the group. But should someone in my group do something underhanded such as steal some supplies or hoard valuable equipment, my punishments would be less about doing physical tasks and more about social isolation and emotional manipulation.
If the crime is relatively small, I’ll be relatively light-no food and water for a day, spend the whole night up on guard duty, that kind of stuff. Then I’d have a private talk with them for the sole purpose of making them feel as guilty as possible without coming across as a hardass, and then offering them a second chance. Hopefully, that would be enough.
If it was a sizable crime, though, I’d have to take more drastic measures in the form of public condemnation. The actual punishments would ramp up-a few days with no recreational time, more nights on full guard duty-what’s important is that I call them out on their crap in front of everyone. Given the charm of my MC, his close relationships with everyone and the fact that no one likes people taking away their chances of survival to benefit themselves, I’d imagine their reputation amongst the group would definitely sour. As they spend a couple of days being disliked by most of the group and feeling rather alone, I’ll again give them a second chance-we all make mistakes. I’d have to go through a lot to try and rebuild their reputation to a normal standard, but I’m confident I’d be able to work it out and somehow find a way to paint them in a slightly more positive light.
But sometimes, people don’t do only small or relatively contained crimes. Sometimes, those people will do greatly dangerous deeds that put all of our group in danger and substantially lower our chances of survival, or betray the trust of the group. In that case, I’d look at the survivor themselves-their skills, what they contributed.
If I deem them to be rather useful, then I won’t do public condemnation-it’s outright public humiliation. Ramp up the nights spent on guard duty and severely lower the time spent on recreational tasks. Absolutely destroy their reputation amongst the group. Make it positively sure that the rest of the survivors won’t even want to socialize with them. Even some light bullying here and there, I’d tolerate-they made a big fuckup, and they need to know it. After about a week of that, again, I’d give them a second chance, albeit wearily. I’d try to repair their standing with the group, although it might be beyond repair at that point. Maybe it’d serve as a long term consequence to them or be a warning to others so they don’t endanger the group for selfish needs. But I assume that as time goes on, their reputation would somewhat heal-not by a lot, but enough to make it tolerable.
However, should they prove not to be a useful survivor or have already messed up their second chance-be it for a small, medium or large crime-then a bullet to the skull is what you’re gonna get. No trial, no judge, just a clean and swift execution. I will note that the people who get this fate are ones who don’t contribute much and put the group in great danger, or the ones who screwed up their second chance and have proven to be unreliable. So I wouldn’t think most people would object.
So there you have it. There might be some flaws here and there, but you get the basic idea-social isolation and emotional manipulation coupled with grueling physical tasks. I’d think it’d work rather well.
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“Good guy” who enslaves peoples, dismember them and act more like a warlord than a leader. That sounds more like someone on a power trip than someone who care about the safety of their group and peoples in general. Yall jump to drastic measures as early as you have an excuse to and then pretend its caring???
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With all you said you consider yourself the good guy? Wow I thought you were like many people here in a villain mode for the MC. Thats kind of interesting^^
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You have to do dark things to keep people alive and he has boundaries he won’t kill a kid or just go and muder people like the silverthornes. Also most of the time he helps people
Yep when I was coming up with main mc I want to make a evil a character who thinks himself as the good guy.
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You dont have to??? Thats your opinion not a fact. Whats a fact is that treating your group the way you’re describing lead to rebellions, human right abuse and political stagnation. You’re probably gonna end up killing more peoples in your group than hostile survivors would. If you wanna roleplay an evil character sure, but please dont genuinely act like your character is right. You’re literally supporting torture and dismemberment if you kidnap someone and they refuse to help you.
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It’s still early in the apocalypse and most od the group can’t afford to take me off the leadership and treat them Fair and respectful. The option to leave the group is always on the table. Plus he moral gray like Rick Grimes from season 5 all the way to season 8 of the walking dead he will do anything to keep his group safe and if that means cut off people arms.
I can assure you that the world could be on fire ppls would still wanna stab you in the guts for cutting their wife arms off. There’s making hard decisions and then there’s enslaving and torturing ppls just cause they dont like you. I’m also confused by what you said. Ppls can leave but you still enslave peoples? Are slaves free to leave?
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He is role-playing a character that is self-centered cruel and evil that belie he is Good guy. it is role-playing, no real please drop tone and respect each other
@moderators, please out your yellow power here to deescalate the issue
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Personally I don’t see it as our group’s job to met out justice or make leadership decisions for other groups. That group probably has their own leader and if they didn’t ask for our help on how they want to deal with a human related problem or incident. Why is it our right to just insert ourselves into their legal system and start barking out orders on how they should lead or handle crimes in their community ?
I think scavenging is a matter of who found the supplies first, now if we needed supplies badly I would at least suggest or offer some kind of trade that would benefit both of us. But if another group found supplies at a place we were on our way to scavenge, I think it’s theirs by right because they did in fact find it first. As for building, I think establishing an equal amount of territory for both groups is good way to avoid possible conflict as it relates to each group’s mutual desire to expand.
How do you expect a doctor to be able to make a prosthetic arm advanced enough to use tools or weapons given the limited resources being available due to the fact that we are in a zombie apocalypse ? If you want to punish someone for theft cut off a couple of fingers or maybe a hand but cutting off both of their arms is extreme & damaging to the point that you are losing an abled bodied person that can do work for the group and won’t be able to defend themselves.
A hospital is known to be a death trap/suicide mission in the zombie apocalypse genre due to the fact that they’re usually stuffed with undead staff/patients and first responders.
What if someone had some of their own supplies hidden away in case of emergencies but gave the majority to the group ? Would you still punish them even though they were just having a back up plan in order to be prepared for the inevitable shit hitting the fan ?@AAO I’d like your thoughts on how you would handle this scenario as well.
How would the criminal be an effective guard if they didn’t at least have something to provide enough energy to keep them up at night ?
You sound more like the Governor than Rick in terms of your plan and overall behavior. Rick was definitely on the path to villain protagonist but he wasn’t that brutal.
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My mc has high combat skill and if they try the will have a hard time
So no hospital I guess I’ll have to cut
Sorry if I caused confusion. When I put down Mc I mean Mc. Irl I don’t support people arm or anything of their body getting cut off
My mc ain’t that brutal if a group of people does something he doesn’t like he will not shoot them in the back of the head.
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Then again, if their intentions for taking the supplies was simply as a backup in case shit hits the fan…why wouldn’t they tell the leader about it? If they truly had no ill intentions and they were just preparing for the worst, they would have just come up and talked to me, asked me about it, tried to reason with me to let them have that stash. I definitely wouldn’t deny it-seems like a reasonable thing to ask for, doesn’t it? But if they didn’t, of course I’d have to assume the worst.
Also, do they really need a small stash of water and supplies at all times? If it’s real use is for a backup in case they get lost, why can’t we just give them one only when they’re venturing out of the base and on dangerous missions where they could get separated?
Obviously, I’m not just gonna have him stand there on their own. I’d expect a few of the other members on watch duty to keep an eye on him. Then again, they might choose to slip away in the slip of time it takes for the guards to switch watch duties.
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No worries there was just a lot of confusion. I’m just too used to ppls on this forum self projecting themselves on their character and using it as an excuse to push some real nasty agendas. The united we stand thread have eh, kinda ruined a lot of forum bantering for me.
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It’s all Cool. All my mc I created are based of chacter in pop culture or chame up with them. Role-playing as me would not be fun.
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The discussion makes me want an option to create matters in case the shit hits the fan. It would be totally cool as a leader to prepare something for an emergency. Like preparing backpacks, for every member with vital stuff, to just grab and be off. And preparing or at least naming a point, where the group after being seperated or driven off their camp can meet and regroup . I think in an apocalytic scenario a Plan B is quite important. Plus it could show the group, that they are good without keeping extra stuff and that they can trust in their leader.
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“Aight yall, plan B. We become mad max road warriors. Everyone grab all the BDSM gear and metal scrap you can we’re going on a trip”
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