Can we see our hellhound in the game cause I would love that
Reminds me of Cernunnos.
I did a Succubus playthrough and there was an option to stick with lovey dovey romantic stuff instead of sex. Not exactly full on âhatred of humanityâ but there is a non-sex option.
Now thatâs scary! I like how they gave it an entire face instead of sticking with the âhollow skull for a headâ look.
Aw shit thatâs badass. If I looked like that, I might not mind being a wendigo 
I like your profile picture. Every time I read one of your posts I canât help but read it in Iron Bulls voice (especially the start of this one).
I did have a testing thread where I released new edits for bug-checking before posting them here. As you can probably tell by the state of my last update, I didnât use it this time.
I never know how long itâs going to be between major changes, and then when I finally come up with them, my testing crew isnât always around right away. So Iâm going to try crowd-sourcing my bug finding in the main thread like I did this time, and if people donât want to run into anything game breaking, they should play with caution for the first few days after a big update.
@Carlos.R Neat! Some wendigos were described with antlers. I read through every description I could find and picked my favorite before I got started - the main features of mine are burning eyes, skin stretched over a skeletal frame, and long teeth and claws. I imagine that being taller than a tree or having various animal features are characteristics of higher wendigos, the godlike versions.
You donât have a hellhound. I assume you mean youâre playing as a demon? Even then, you donât know whether hell even exists. ![]()
Yes, I misunderstood⌠One thing thatâs important to me is the Wendigo being Native American. What Iâve done with each of these legends is go back to the source material, take into account the differences between stories, and tried to make sense of them.
Vampires have spread across the world, and are one of a category of similar monsters; the origins of werewolves are lost somewhere before written history, but theyâve also been found in wide-spread legends. Goblins are somewhat rarer, but there are a few distinct versions - I went for the Celtic legends, because the Fae were mysterious and I had more leeway to describe their personal lives or create misunderstanding in how theyâd been seen.
Succubi/incubi are one of the most commonly described monsters - the seductress/blythe spirit/demon lover archetype. These stories are similar, widespread, and probably the most ancient on this list. Earlier versions may have been described as demigods, personifications of places, various spirits, or a type of daimon (spirit helper). Their primary qualities were a focus on sex, a changeable appearance based on their basic lack of a ârealâ body, and danger (either due to being directly predatory, or the ability to distract from the physical world through their charms.) The 'cubi in the game are a combination of all of these stories, which only rarely described hideous creatures: those that did may have been speaking metaphorically, describing the disgusting nature of evil/sexual temptation.
Wendigos are the most recent of these legends to be held as absolute truth. There are differences between accounts, but their existence was a consequence of a Native American belief that was violated. No other people were ever known to be wendigos. Including a legend this specific and recent meant changing it as little as possible, if I wanted to be respectful. Itâs a challenging thing to do, but Iâve tried to stick to my research, fill in only the blanks, and accurately portray the glimpses we get of pre-Colombian Algonquian culture.
Hehehe thanks. Heâs literally one of my favorite characters of all time. Also next I should say something controversial so that way mayhem ensues. Think of the mayhem @VeeGees. Mayhem.
For mayhem.
Yes mayhem!
Alright get it out of your system.
Maaaaayhem.
Maaaayehm.
Anyway back on topic. I have to say I rather like @Sashira take on these monsterâs lore. I was also wondering if we would get to meet up with the larger monster society and maybe have to deal with for example vampire politics?
My question is do we get to be the alpha? Also are how are the alphas different from the betas in this game? Some sources show alphas as being bigger more aggressive. Others show just a change in personality and tone or even just a change in eye color?
Yes, all monsters have to deal with their speciesâ version of politics. The 'cubus has their parent coming for Homecoming (one-on-one relationships are the closest they have to formalized rules), Iâll be trying to work in more mentions of goblin councils and societal restrictions, vampires have already been introduced to the notion of the oligarchy of other vampires (Iâll be expanding on this later), and werewolves already have a ton of pack dynamics. There arenât enough other wendigos to form official rules, so staying alive, undercover and observing as many of their original cultural values as possible is the best they can do.
If youâve played the werewolf path in the game, you know that the position of Alpha is up for grabs. It is possible, though difficult, to become the new Alpha.
Werewolf Alphas are chosen for their leadership ability; in werewolf society, this encompasses charisma, uncompromising strength of character (they are not easily influenced and make good decisions), cleverness in tactics (both in battle/hunting and in choices made for the pack), and combat ability (not necessarily being the biggest or strongest, but they prize toughness and the ability to go for the throat.)
What do you mean by sources? A lot of what Iâve studied about Alphas/Betas/Omegas and what roles to give them goes back to wildlife biology and how wolves behave, since most of the old legends werenât really clear on pack dynamics. In the wild, Alpha wolves tend to win individual fights, but not necessarily to be more aggressive; they often know hunting techniques that others donât and are good at organizing others, which reduces the number of challenges they get. The Beta is often a relative of the Alpha is sort of a right-hand.
So more aggressive, I could possibly see based on wolves, but not necessarily; Alphas are not always the biggest, though they do eat first. Changing personalities or eye colors, Iâm not sure where youâd get. Is that from a novel or RPG, possibly?
Kinda reminds me of us Asians⌠kind of
Actually - every species in this game includes some personal issue I wanted to write about.
The werewolves and their insistence on following traditions and roles was based on growing up in an immigrant neighborhood where I wasnât sure I believed in my familyâs values, though in my case it was a Polish enclave.
If anyone missed the last rundown, the other related high school memories are:
Wendigos - psychosis
Vampires - alienation and loss
Goblins - bullied for being labeled as smart
Demons - all the slut-shaming
Is the bad wendigo ending in the first post still possible? I didnât see it anywhere
So I was going through the MonsterNet feature for the first time, and I was impressed. Itâs a really neat feature.
However, what really caught my eye was the interspecies dating thread. So, Iâm curios: what do the monsters think of a monster dating a human?
Love the new update so far and the fact that you said youâre gonna expand on the monstersâ politics got me excited for the future. You mentioned how the Wendigos isnât as many as vampires and werewolves so they canât for a society/hierarchy.
How about expanding on the introductions of ânon-mainstreamâ monster like ghouls and IDK nymphs? Forming a society of diverse outcast amongst even monsters.
This has been answered here and there, but given the size of the thread, can be tough to find. I know @Sashira has addressed this before.
The easiest answerâŚit depends. Some of it will depend on the species itself, and what they prize, and of course individuals within the species will have different views.
The following is just my take, and what I remember.
A good example are the demons. Given how they must feed, it is pretty much accepted they will date with multiple partners (and this doesnât include âone-night standsâ). By the same token, staying monogamous, or as close to it as they go, might generate more controversy since it impacts the health of their partner.
With vampires, it would be accepted as well. In fact, one of the choices for a vampire player to pick is their âparentâs partnerâ to feed from. So it seems vampires will occasionally get into a very intimate relationship with someone, especially if they feed from.
It would be less accepting among goblins, since they seem to be preoccupied with their fertility as a species, and anything that takes away from it can be a problem.
Werewolves actually seem to be a conservative bunch as well, though I chalk that up more to pack dynamics and instinct as well.
Wendigo are just to few to really have a big consensus on this. There might be some wendigo who are like âdonât play with your foodâ but there would be others who are like âitâs a tough existence and if it helps you get through it.â It really depends on how human the wendigo in question is.
This game is pretty interesting but I think I played an out of date version, can someone give me an updated link?
I dread to think what my goblinâs parents are going to think when their nice upstanding boy has been attracted to and tried flirting with a Vampire, Wendigo and anti-monster human⌠at the same time. 
I meant alphas and werewolves in legends. I didnât realize you based most of the pack dynamics on actual biology. And by sources I meant like any fictional book, movie, tv show or legend that Iâve read/seen/heard that is about werewolves. I realize that those arenât exactly a good basis for but I assumed thatâs were most of your info would come from. Interesting to see you take the biological route instead of what people have seen in movies, tv, etc. and by differences I meant like is the alpha physically different from the beta. Also the eye color/personality thing is something Iâve noticed from. Ivied and tv shows or comics. Like in wolf form, the person is far more prone to violence. That doesnât seem to be the case here from what Iâve seen so far.
