Monsters of New Haven High - last update 4/02

Can we see our hellhound in the game cause I would love that

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Reminds me of Cernunnos.

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I did a Succubus playthrough and there was an option to stick with lovey dovey romantic stuff instead of sex. Not exactly full on “hatred of humanity” but there is a non-sex option.

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Now that’s scary! I like how they gave it an entire face instead of sticking with the “hollow skull for a head” look.

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Aw shit that’s badass. If I looked like that, I might not mind being a wendigo :wink:

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I like your profile picture. Every time I read one of your posts I can’t help but read it in Iron Bulls voice (especially the start of this one).

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I did have a testing thread where I released new edits for bug-checking before posting them here. As you can probably tell by the state of my last update, I didn’t use it this time.

I never know how long it’s going to be between major changes, and then when I finally come up with them, my testing crew isn’t always around right away. So I’m going to try crowd-sourcing my bug finding in the main thread like I did this time, and if people don’t want to run into anything game breaking, they should play with caution for the first few days after a big update.

@Carlos.R Neat! Some wendigos were described with antlers. I read through every description I could find and picked my favorite before I got started - the main features of mine are burning eyes, skin stretched over a skeletal frame, and long teeth and claws. I imagine that being taller than a tree or having various animal features are characteristics of higher wendigos, the godlike versions.

You don’t have a hellhound. I assume you mean you’re playing as a demon? Even then, you don’t know whether hell even exists. :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes, I misunderstood… One thing that’s important to me is the Wendigo being Native American. What I’ve done with each of these legends is go back to the source material, take into account the differences between stories, and tried to make sense of them.

Vampires have spread across the world, and are one of a category of similar monsters; the origins of werewolves are lost somewhere before written history, but they’ve also been found in wide-spread legends. Goblins are somewhat rarer, but there are a few distinct versions - I went for the Celtic legends, because the Fae were mysterious and I had more leeway to describe their personal lives or create misunderstanding in how they’d been seen.

Succubi/incubi are one of the most commonly described monsters - the seductress/blythe spirit/demon lover archetype. These stories are similar, widespread, and probably the most ancient on this list. Earlier versions may have been described as demigods, personifications of places, various spirits, or a type of daimon (spirit helper). Their primary qualities were a focus on sex, a changeable appearance based on their basic lack of a “real” body, and danger (either due to being directly predatory, or the ability to distract from the physical world through their charms.) The 'cubi in the game are a combination of all of these stories, which only rarely described hideous creatures: those that did may have been speaking metaphorically, describing the disgusting nature of evil/sexual temptation.

Wendigos are the most recent of these legends to be held as absolute truth. There are differences between accounts, but their existence was a consequence of a Native American belief that was violated. No other people were ever known to be wendigos. Including a legend this specific and recent meant changing it as little as possible, if I wanted to be respectful. It’s a challenging thing to do, but I’ve tried to stick to my research, fill in only the blanks, and accurately portray the glimpses we get of pre-Colombian Algonquian culture.

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Hehehe thanks. He’s literally one of my favorite characters of all time. Also next I should say something controversial so that way mayhem ensues. Think of the mayhem @VeeGees. Mayhem.

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For mayhem.
Yes mayhem!
Alright get it out of your system.
Maaaaayhem.
Maaaayehm.

Anyway back on topic. I have to say I rather like @Sashira take on these monster’s lore. I was also wondering if we would get to meet up with the larger monster society and maybe have to deal with for example vampire politics?

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My question is do we get to be the alpha? Also are how are the alphas different from the betas in this game? Some sources show alphas as being bigger more aggressive. Others show just a change in personality and tone or even just a change in eye color?

Yes, all monsters have to deal with their species’ version of politics. The 'cubus has their parent coming for Homecoming (one-on-one relationships are the closest they have to formalized rules), I’ll be trying to work in more mentions of goblin councils and societal restrictions, vampires have already been introduced to the notion of the oligarchy of other vampires (I’ll be expanding on this later), and werewolves already have a ton of pack dynamics. There aren’t enough other wendigos to form official rules, so staying alive, undercover and observing as many of their original cultural values as possible is the best they can do.

If you’ve played the werewolf path in the game, you know that the position of Alpha is up for grabs. It is possible, though difficult, to become the new Alpha.

Werewolf Alphas are chosen for their leadership ability; in werewolf society, this encompasses charisma, uncompromising strength of character (they are not easily influenced and make good decisions), cleverness in tactics (both in battle/hunting and in choices made for the pack), and combat ability (not necessarily being the biggest or strongest, but they prize toughness and the ability to go for the throat.)

What do you mean by sources? A lot of what I’ve studied about Alphas/Betas/Omegas and what roles to give them goes back to wildlife biology and how wolves behave, since most of the old legends weren’t really clear on pack dynamics. In the wild, Alpha wolves tend to win individual fights, but not necessarily to be more aggressive; they often know hunting techniques that others don’t and are good at organizing others, which reduces the number of challenges they get. The Beta is often a relative of the Alpha is sort of a right-hand.

So more aggressive, I could possibly see based on wolves, but not necessarily; Alphas are not always the biggest, though they do eat first. Changing personalities or eye colors, I’m not sure where you’d get. Is that from a novel or RPG, possibly?

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Kinda reminds me of us Asians… kind of

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Actually - every species in this game includes some personal issue I wanted to write about.

The werewolves and their insistence on following traditions and roles was based on growing up in an immigrant neighborhood where I wasn’t sure I believed in my family’s values, though in my case it was a Polish enclave.

If anyone missed the last rundown, the other related high school memories are:

Wendigos - psychosis
Vampires - alienation and loss
Goblins - bullied for being labeled as smart
Demons - all the slut-shaming

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Is the bad wendigo ending in the first post still possible? I didn’t see it anywhere

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@Sashira

So I was going through the MonsterNet feature for the first time, and I was impressed. It’s a really neat feature.

However, what really caught my eye was the interspecies dating thread. So, I’m curios: what do the monsters think of a monster dating a human?

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Love the new update so far and the fact that you said you’re gonna expand on the monsters’ politics got me excited for the future. You mentioned how the Wendigos isn’t as many as vampires and werewolves so they can’t for a society/hierarchy.
How about expanding on the introductions of ‘non-mainstream’ monster like ghouls and IDK nymphs? Forming a society of diverse outcast amongst even monsters.

This has been answered here and there, but given the size of the thread, can be tough to find. I know @Sashira has addressed this before.

The easiest answer…it depends. Some of it will depend on the species itself, and what they prize, and of course individuals within the species will have different views.

The following is just my take, and what I remember.

A good example are the demons. Given how they must feed, it is pretty much accepted they will date with multiple partners (and this doesn’t include ‘one-night stands’). By the same token, staying monogamous, or as close to it as they go, might generate more controversy since it impacts the health of their partner.

With vampires, it would be accepted as well. In fact, one of the choices for a vampire player to pick is their “parent’s partner” to feed from. So it seems vampires will occasionally get into a very intimate relationship with someone, especially if they feed from.

It would be less accepting among goblins, since they seem to be preoccupied with their fertility as a species, and anything that takes away from it can be a problem.

Werewolves actually seem to be a conservative bunch as well, though I chalk that up more to pack dynamics and instinct as well.

Wendigo are just to few to really have a big consensus on this. There might be some wendigo who are like ‘don’t play with your food’ but there would be others who are like ‘it’s a tough existence and if it helps you get through it.’ It really depends on how human the wendigo in question is.

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This game is pretty interesting but I think I played an out of date version, can someone give me an updated link?

I dread to think what my goblin’s parents are going to think when their nice upstanding boy has been attracted to and tried flirting with a Vampire, Wendigo and anti-monster human… at the same time. :stuck_out_tongue:

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I meant alphas and werewolves in legends. I didn’t realize you based most of the pack dynamics on actual biology. And by sources I meant like any fictional book, movie, tv show or legend that I’ve read/seen/heard that is about werewolves. I realize that those aren’t exactly a good basis for but I assumed that’s were most of your info would come from. Interesting to see you take the biological route instead of what people have seen in movies, tv, etc. and by differences I meant like is the alpha physically different from the beta. Also the eye color/personality thing is something I’ve noticed from. Ivied and tv shows or comics. Like in wolf form, the person is far more prone to violence. That doesn’t seem to be the case here from what I’ve seen so far.