Monsters of New Haven High - last update 4/02

Same . I want the updated link please

@Babygirl and @Ylva there is only one link and that’s the one in the first post. If you can’t access any new scenes may try to clear your browser’s history/cache, that should normally solve the problem.

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That did it. Thanks!

“You don’t have a hellhound. I assume you mean you’re playing as a demon? Even then, you don’t know whether hell even exists. :stuck_out_tongue:”

This person who asked that seems obsessed with hellhounds.

It could be funny, though. “Who’s a good little sulfurous monstrosity? You are! You are!”

(And last time I checked, the 'cubus was given the option to mention a ‘pet hellhound’ in art class…although perhaps that was just a joke.)

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Shaming? The demon seemed like they were on top of the social pyramid.

Newbie here, so sorry if this question is a lil’ dumb. I was wondering if theres a save feature on this? Or is that closed because its still a wip? Love the story so far btw! Two minutes in and I’m already crushing hard lmaooo literally kick me please :’’)

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It’s a fair question, and no, there is no save feature. Most games don’t really have save features for that matter.

Thanks it worked love you))

They’re incorporeal creatures, only taking on an appearance when they form a body (or, if too weak to do so, when they enter a dream.) So their “real” appearance is - nothing. A demon’s self-image is not tied to a face.

Actually, there sort of is. In the last update I uploaded the temporary save system I was using with my testers. It’s a bit buggy - for some reason, when reloading it sometimes turns up old scenes that don’t even exist any more - but when it works, it’s a way to restart Day 2 without playing through again.

That’s mostly true; the demon is pretty shameless, and there are only minor challenges to their behavior. There also aren’t any bullies going out of their way to hunt down Benny for being the school genius. So maybe there’s also an element of wish fulfillment to these interpretations.

Yeaaah, demons say a lot of things that aren’t true. I’m kind of liking leaving readers a little confused, though… their origin is confusing.

There are other monsters hanging around. Not all of them have common causes, but you’re onto something. One of those already exists in the game. :smirk:

It’s still there. Since the major edit, I may have changed some stats around to the point where it can’t be reached. I’ll check it out.

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@Sashira Just had a wild idea… why not copy and paste all of the questions and answers here into a sort of FAQ you could include in the game somewhere? Maybe in a giant book of lore? That should make the word count skyrocket and significantly add to the depth of the story while not hindering it (because it’s optional research).

Interesting thing about IRL wolves is that the whole “alpha” pack dynamic isn’t actually how they work. Wolves operate in family units in the wild with the parents in charge and the kids ranked by age.

The alpha theory of dominance was based on unrelated wolves in a zoo that ended up establishing a sort of pecking order.

Source

Then again, this is a fantasy setting about fantasy monsters, so it doesn’t have to be 100% scientifically accurate.

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And now I’m imagining the Werewolf PC periodically urinating to mark their territory.

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Huh. No wonder the Vampire is my favorite character. We’re both angsty lonely teenagers!

Modern werewolves just spray Axe instead.

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Most of this stuff is either already in the Codex (found on the stat screen, entries unlock as you meet/hear about each new species) or will appear in future MonsterNet articles. :slight_smile:

I was going back to sources like “Never Cry Wolf”, of people who had watched wolves in the wild. From those I believe that there is an alpha of a wolf pack, but the zoo-based theory would explain why people ascribe more aggression to them than is found in nature. There is a clear leader (and often the Alpha couple are the only breeding pair, even if there are other unrelated wolves in the pack), with some relative taking on more responsibilities (the Beta.) Omegas also exist in nature, adults who keep features of cub behavior.

If you have sources suggesting that the observations in the wild were also misinterpreted, and wolf society isn’t hierarchical at all, please let me know. It wouldn’t be the first time research has led me to firmly believe something that isn’t true.

They’re part human, y’know… though fun fact, the aggression werewolves sometimes display comes from their human side.

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Wait you weren’t supposed to do that in high school??? :upside_down_face:

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The “Alpha Couple” are usually the two original parents. Since an alpha pair is another way of describing a breeding pair, any offspring can become alphas by leaving the pack upon reaching maturity, finding a wolf of the opposite sex, and creating a pack of their own.

Sometimes outside wolves replace one member of the breeding pair, but the pack still ends up as 2 parents and offspring. There are exceptions like when larger family packs join, though.

Wolves in packs do display dominant or submissive behavior, but the authority structures are more family-based. Interestingly, submissive behavior showed up even in the main breeding pair.

The wolves also all tried to steal food from each other or defend their food from other wolves regardless of rank.

Source is a paper on wolf-pack behavior from 1999. The PDF can be found here.

Here’s an interesting quote about feeding order:

Similarly, pups are subordinate to both parents and to older siblings, yet they are fed
preferentially by the parents, and even by their older (dominant) siblings (Mech et al.
1999). On the other hand, parents both dominate older offspring and restrict their food
intake when food is scarce, feeding pups instead. Thus, the most practical effect of social
dominance is to allow the dominant individual the choice of to whom to allot food.

Apparently the author himself used to believe in the alpha theory of dominance and was partially responsible for spreading it. Here’s the video where he explains he was wrong. Relevant bit starts about a minute in. He does say that some packs, like in Yellowstone, have multiple breeders and those breeders are ranked. That’s not common, but it does happen.

His paper also mentions that possibility and says the dominance is based on age. Alpha female’s the mom, subordinate female breeders are her daughters that breed with unrelated wolves.

Never Cry Wolf was published in 1963 and has run into controversy for misrepresenting some facts.

Here’s a 2012 article that says the book is basically fiction. The author even admitted to making things up.

Additional source

In conclusion, there is a hierarchy, but it’s family-based and somewhat fluid in that any wolf can become a breeding alpha by making its own pack.

Honestly, I didn’t know half this stuff before today when I was looking it up for this post, so I’ve learned a lot too. No worries, though. You’ve still got a great game.

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Is there any way that you can romance Artemis as a goblin?

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You can romance Artemis as any monster.

Pick the flirt option in class. As the game progresses and you get to pick 2 places to go to 2, go to the alley and kiss her.

You’ll get the scene with Hunter next morning, which means that you’re starting to get to her.

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