Monsters of New Haven High - last update 4/02

@Sneaks I would prefer to romance Benny the Goblin instead of playing as a goblin.

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But goblins are cool!!!

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Can goblins do magic???

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@Sneaks They are pretty cool, but I like vampires and werewolves more. Plus, I don’t think I could pull off a goblin character :stuck_out_tongue_closed_eyes:

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Personally I like the demons more … nothing like some manipulation and charm to get what you want

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Hmm, vampires are too popular, I may have to vote for something else…

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That’s such a hipster thing to say. :wink:

But there is a reason why Vampires are so popular…though I’m not sure if it’s just because they are so well known? :thinking: But in that case werewolfs would be more popular as they are now I guess? :sweat_smile:

Well for me it’s Wendigo - Vampire - Werewolf - Goblin - Demon.

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Add another to the Goblin Legion. Soon we will rule this planet! :wink:

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You know, now I think I like goblins even less.

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Werewolves are cool too…(howls sadly)

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I had much internal conflict over whether I love Wendigo or Vampire better.

Then I realized that even as a powerful Wendigo, I still need a job.

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For me, I love playing as a vampire the most. Demon follows at a close second, then wendigo, then werewolf, and finally goblin. It’s not that I dislike goblins, I just can’t relate to them at all. I’ve always liked vampires so I usually default to them if given the choice, although I also like the choices given to the vampire MC in this game immensely.

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Vampire is my favourite and then it’s a close second of either wendigo or cubi.

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More precisely, goblins ARE magic. Unlike other species, who have to consume and expend energy to perform their abilities, fae are their own source of power. The glamour spell goblins wear every day is taught to them as children, and comes naturally to them.

There are other minor spells and charms known to goblins, but they’re some of the most technically-minded fae. They tend not to use magic for frivolous purposes, or to change the laws of nature. Their relatives (who will be visiting for Homecoming) don’t have the same restraint.

Interesting question! I actually hadn’t thought about that; I should at least give the vampire a default servant. Victoria’s not going to be opening her own door for visitors.

Hm, I should change that.

EDIT: Ha, @AAO beat me to it. I added /GQ to her gender description.

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@Sashira Another quick vampire inquiry: are they emotionally stunted in any way? With a vampire MC/Victoria’s mother’s death having been fairly recent (being partially the MC/Victoria’s own fault), they both seem sort of indifferent to it.

They also seem to have come into their vampiric own rather quickly, is it natural once turned, or did they have a mentor of some sort?

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This characteristic is often given to vampires to explain how they could feed/hunt from humans, as well as outliving those they care about.

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I literally yelped when I saw this. I blame you @Sashira. Now my neighbors and everyone else within a 4 mile radius knows how obsessed I am with this game.

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That was the intent behind making Victoria withdrawn, and making even popular vampire MCs keep their distance from the other students. Victoria I think will work - if the MC can get through her defenses, they can start to see the emotions she’s been keeping to herself. Vampiric MCs need some revision; rather than keeping it unspoken, I should give them more chances to reflect on their loss, like the wendigo with their issues.

Someone who is going to be turned into a vampire is carefully prepared beforehand. Victoria or the vampire MC would have seen their mother feed, had their potential abilities explained to them, and known long in advance what their new life would be like. Their servant was also familiar with the needs of vampires and was around to help them adjust.

It’s true that being raised by a vampire gives someone a more pragmatic outlook on life and death. But they do have emotions similar to humans, especially younger ones.

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Annnd I just found my spiritual identical twin. Seems like we’re going for the same kind of playthroughs. :wink:

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The game’s fun to play as always, but there are a few criticisms I have to make.

@Sashira, I hate to bring up the issue of racelocking yet again, but it’s honestly a complete dealbreaker for me, and it gets more irritating every time I play through. I believe you said that since the Wendigo myth was specifically Native American, it made sense to make the Wendigo character a Native American.

But you haven’t applied this standard consistently to the other monsters. The succ/incubus is specific to Judeo-Christian theology (which involves some geographic constraints), but it isn’t racelocked to Western Europe and the Middle East. There are vampires in Asian folklore, if ‘Vampire: The Masquerade’ is any indication, but all the names available for the vampire come from Eastern/Western Europe. There are goblins in Hindu theology, but the available names for the goblins are (I think) Welsh.

So again, what’s with all the racelocking??? I don’t find it racially offensive, but it’s an extremely annoying constraint in character creation.

Secondly, let’s talk about the incubus. I mentioned earlier that the incubus didn’t have to be an Impossibly Beautiful Edward Cullen expy. This is only partially because I’d prefer to play an edgy, hideous demon. My understanding is that incubi, like other demons, are often driven by hatred of humanity, not necessarily by lust alone(see ‘Paradise Lost’). But in the section where the incubus has to state how they feel about their partners, all the options are some variant on ‘I really, really like sex.’ Why isn’t there an option to play an incubus with a personality similar to a human serial killer–craving sex but hating those who engage in it? Or why isn’t it possible to play an incubus who dislikes sex, but enjoys the process of degrading humans?

Third, unless I’m looking at the wrong version of the game, I notice that ‘Issei’ and "Sagawa’ (from the Japanese cannibal murderer Issei Sagawa) are still Wendigo naming options. That seems rather disrespectful of the dead.

Finally–and this is more a comment on the way this thread has been progressing–are we seriously arguing about the offensiveness of the term ‘sapiosexual’? We’re creating art here, not making a political statement. And before anyone tells me that art has political value, I would like to point out that art has historically had the political impact of a wet paper bag.

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The cubus is a specific kind of demon that is said to be extremely attractive and suduses humans to steal their souls. So in cubus cannot hate sex because that is how they feed.

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