I would love Mara joining them she has a crush on Keith after all. 
Still so far the offer is be a farmer slave so no way in hell Mara accepted that so for now no silver
Yeah I agree my chacter donse not want to go to war with the Silverthornes. Wich will be hard since he killed the girl and captured bention and he is keeping him. I would describe are relationship as the usa and the Soviets
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So let me get this straight, you donât want to start a war with the Silverthorneâs but you basically did everything that would cause the Silverthorneâs to declare war on you ? What a mess⌠Sounds like a fun yet chaotic playthrough.
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Yes and Itâs is a very fun playthrough thats just the start.
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@JimD
Bug found in the pharmacy mission.
I chose to rob Kent and family, then let him leave. But while searching the store I still have the option to ask Kent for the key to the gun case.
Choosing to ask Kent for the key after heâs left gives this text:
Kent twists his mouth to the side. âDonât think so.â He glares at you with one eye. âDonât ask again.â
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jimd has already fixed it with @Lithophene awesome help now we have to patiently wait for next update
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The patch should have rolled out! My Steam version got the update. Kent magically reappearing despite being forced to leave should be fixed now.
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Oh great i will check out on Google store and see if I found anything weitd like ghost dante or Magic Kent
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@JimD
Bug in the pharmacy mission.
I chose these choices:
âI want your supplies. Then youâre free to go.â
âConsider an escape plan and go back to my camp now. I donât care about looting the grocery store.â
And
âSneak out, sticking to the shadows and staying under the awnings to avoid the sniperâs line of sight.â
Aris looks at their sister and hugs her. âWe made it, sis,â they say. Kate doesnât seem to realize the danger you just evaded.
The kids reappear when Iâm escaping, even though they left the store earlier.
Edit
After choosing the option:
âI want your supplies. Then youâre free to go.â
The below text says I gain a keyring, but it doesnât appear in my inventory, and the choice to unlock the gun case with Kentâs key is greyed out.
You search him regardless, emptying his coat pockets, removing various items from his belt, including a key ring.
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I just realized, will there be more motivations/reasons to join Keithâs group later? Cause I wanna join his group not because I feel pressured or because I like their style, itâs because I wanna infiltrate their group and gain a position of trust to sabotage them from the inside out. It would probably require stealth but Iâve got that.
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Stealth? Why you will need stealth if you are a insider? Stealth only could have sense if youâre not a member Intimidate Leadership maybe a good Martial rank or even a scientific could gain prestige but stealth only work if you want plant a bomb or steal documents.
I hope could joining to conquest them but sadly now accept Joining means be a farmer and Mara and old my characters prefer die to that⌠I have to play my new character for that
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To become a spy⌠you need persuasion not stealth 
Persuade your target that you are not a spy and convince them for all you bad idea
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I donât think a good spy can just ditch stealth and expect that they can always rely on persuasion. That just doesnât seem like smart planning, how do you expect people to buy the whole âIâm not a spyâ act when everyone else is going to say the same thing ? Also youâd most likely be the new recruit so your word means nothing and they have no reason to trust you because you havenât done anything to earn that trust regardless of you being persuasive. In my opinion, the smart thing to do would be to plant incriminating evidence on someone else (preferably on the people who are watching you the most) and let them take the fall.
@poison_mara Just because youâre now behind enemy lines and have âjoinedâ them doesnât mean youâve earned their trust to such a degree that you wouldnât need to be careful and watch your back because, of your status as new recruit you still have not done the work to earn their trust and alleviate the amount of eyes watching you. So even if you have infiltrated their ranks, I still think youâd need stealth so the likelihood of you being caught somewhere you shouldnât be is decreased and you get whatever supplies you need in secret.
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It was commented on that the reason why James Bond is such a good spy is a hypnotic verbal effect âbond James Bondâ
With that spoken a certain way he overrides certain thoughts.
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Whereâs the fun, danger and possible mystery of being James Bond and having hypnotic verbal effects on people ? I want an actual challenge and a sense of risk, danger and fear of not knowing if we will be caught or not. (if we can infiltrate the Silverthornes) How would that be achievable if weâre able to just talk our way out ?
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Deaf Super villian, Zombies, Landmines, Electronic systems, automated turrets?
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Mission impossible Ethan Hunt , talk his way out and use super athletic ability to fight his enemy
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That seems like it would require for the playerâs MC to be a superhuman to over come those obstacles and not everyone designs their MC to be on God mode( I certainly donât.)
@Eric_knight is your MC designed to be Ethan Hunt though, or all of them ? If they are good for you, but how does that make the possible infiltration mission fun if you could easily pull a Superman and take what you are looking for without actually having to work for it and overcome the fun of a challenge ? Also how would that be believable ? Just because the gameâs setting is a zombie apocalypse and is in the realm of fiction doesnât mean there hasnât been logic to it or a sense of being believable when it comes to the abilities of the characters and their choices.
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Well⌠my MC is not athletic enough, and i normally donât infiltrate ⌠hence i donât think my MC will be Agent Hunt
I will use empathy , persuasion to present an ideological handling of situation plus sharp shooting skill if necessary , infiltration will deprieve of my time to sing, play musical instrument and preach ideology ⌠and i wonât endorse it either, everyone could stay in a big happy family together without caring what other group do outside âŚ
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You are certainly right and wrong same time. Absolutely agree with you in everything you have said. Except you see it from one unique perspective from a good guy trying to gather info to destroying them if you want to do that yeah You need stealth.
Do Mara wants destroy Them and gather intel? Nope. Mara wants to rule them Make them mara group. For that no need at all the sneaky sneaky as she would not doing nothing she shouldnt.
Stealth of mind not of body. So empathy persuasion leadership not Stealth.
Leliana in Dragon age one give a magnificent explanation of the two types of stealth. And how she was expertise in Being at plane sight and people assume she belongs due her behaviour and speechcraft.
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