That would be cool to see, but I’m not sure if that would be within bounds for the author, as it would be hard to integrate a Feral in with Garou (again because they do not really like Garou lol)
Edit: I also hope it gets integrated for a Lupus born Garou, that would be my preference to play as.
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Ah the war of rage garous greatest shame except for the Red Talons or Get of Fenris
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Remember. Now they’re Cult of Fenris now.
Oh yes, Gurahl were definetly her first pick. I believe the because Gaias Healers after the Garou were made, given their particular gifts of restoring the dead. I absolutely love the Gurahl personally, and hope they get an update.
Edit: I’m pretty sure they get alluded to in BOHN with Father Bear, not named or anything in particular.
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I want to see the Stargazers
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If the Answering Tiger is just confusing you “sometimes”, you have yet to actually meet them, I gather?
If for no other reason, Nin gets the Whippoorwill Gift and uses it a couple of times. Might as well explain what it is.
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I love the gurahl too! When i first read about them and the war of rage thats when i really realized that the Garou dug themselves into such a massive hole. All those other Fera, if they were alive, would allow the Garou to focus purely on what they were meant to do and the planet would probably be in a much better state. But after they killed the healers, the cleansers, the teachers, strong-armed the messengers, drove the human population police to exile, slaughtered the agriculturalists, the internal police, the scholars, and most of the memory keepers its like…damn bro you guys really screwed yourselves over
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Don’t forget the Garous also drove the Bunyips to extinction no thanks to the Silver Fangs and Red Talons
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And the Camazotz as well, darn Shadow Lords…
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Oh yea and they also tried to do the same thing with the Fera all over the entire continent of Africa but one of the other Fera sacrificed themselves to stop it.
They ALSO tried to get at the guardians of the sea but physically couldn’t because they were in the ocean.
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And let’s not forget the Ananasi also responsible for why the Black Spiral Dancers exist.
Question which is worse Kindreds for their manipulations or Garous for their genocidal rampage and imperegium ?
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Wait what? How?
The Garou killed the care takers, but the Kindred corrupt everything thats left So i gotta give it to the Kindred. I feel like if you wholly removed the Kindred from the equation, like a good 50% of the problems the Garou face just flat out wouldn’t exist, including hunters. The Impergium was just dumb cuz the Ratkin literally were already handling that
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Ananasi tricked the White Howlers into marching to the great pit to the realm of Malfias the domain of Wyrm. were they become trapped and corrupted into the Black Spiral Dancers. Which is a dumb move considering that Ananasi are servants of the Weaver.
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OH is that how she got to talk to her spider babies? When they made the wolves think they were killing the wyrm’s heart? Wow thats actually crazy. Guess the Weaver IS insane after all. No one Gaia only trusted the Wyld
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Mm granted that Kindred (no matter how innocuous some may seem) always contribute to the growth of the Wyrm and basically contribute to massive surges of Banes (not even mentioning Pentex), Id have to agree that the Kindred are the bigger problem. Granted the Garou need to be kept in check better and learn from their mistakes, they still are trying to fix Gaia.
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Weaver are insane and idiot, Wyld just run things randomly like a Malkavian, as for the Wyrm blame the Weaver.
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Yeah, for the most part, the tribe you choose doesn’t really matter.
It’s a consequence of having so many tribes to choose from. You can’t really make them unique because every scene has to apply to every tribe.
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From what I understand, W5 leaves surviving decapitation up to GM interpretation, and Kyle’s decided it’s far cooler to be able to survive it. There are a couple chances early on to get your head lopped off. Like, at one point, if you hulk out while talking to Melodie, she twists your head clean off (she’s obv in crinos as well) until you calm down, then places your head near your body to sluck back on.
It’s obviously a major wound that takes a lot of points to heal, but yeah, in BoHN, if it’s not a special werewolf-killing material or weapon, you’ll be fine.
There are a number of frankly hilarious Death-Becomes-Her possible moments, particularly when your packmates are trying to calm you down from a frenzy, like shooting you in the face with a shotgun and fishing you out of a lake with a gaffe hook.
Yeah, Garou are basically Gaia’s nearly unkillable living weapons. Toe-to-toe, most Kindred don’t stand a chance.
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Except when fighting elders or methuselah Kindred, Mithras managed to wipe out several Garous pack when they failed to ambush him. Mind you that he was tired at that time right before he got diablerize by a stupid Assamite.
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Well, I finished the game at last, I liked it a lot, I was expecting less because it was W5, but instead got more, much much more than I was promised, it even fixed some of my complaints with this edition, and that, in my opinion, prove that for fifth edition, the videogames and spin offs are much better than the TTRPG books, now I’m very hyped for the Hunter one.
Even with the W5 hickups, the game is fantastic, very well written, very fun to play - though the beginning is too tough and rought -, very engaging too, it works as both CYOA and as a solo campaing and it bring back the crazyness that WtA is known for and its extrange relationship with Mage lore as well,( talking about obscure references, the mother of all obscure references), I’m going to be very dissapointed when the corebook for M5 releases and some of this stuff aren’t going to be there.
I think that I said it before, but if some of the content and context that is here in this game were on the core rulebook, part of the hatedom woulnd’t have existed for W5, it made a much better works presenting you all of the changes that the edition brings in a much more palatable way, giving you explanations as for the why, instead that a big a fat nothing and the tone that is written isn’t the passive agressive this game isn’t for you, the tone of this is very inviting, no matter your preferences, no matter that if you want to stay in Legacy forever or are ChroD fan or you’re an W5 only guy, theres something in here that can be enjoyed by everyone, that’s hard, very hard to do, also, it feels like a work of love for the setting and its past, that’s a awesome, and a plus too.
I’m very grateful to Marquis for this game really,
As negatives… well is W5… but jokes aside, the worst have been the bugs, I’ve found a lot, the worst were the one I found at the maze that give me for valid something I’ve never discovered and I was like whut? and the other was at the third ending - you know the one, I do not want to make heavy spoilers here - in which someone that shouldn’t have been there, were there, and that bring me completely out of the imersion.
The minors one they didn’t bother me that much, the reseting of the game by the patching bothered me more than those minors bugs.
As for the length, some people would seen it as a negative, and the’re right, is too long, but the episodic nature of the chapters, all of them with their own independents conflict, climax and payoff make it much more bereable, I enjoyed a lot the episodic nature of the chapters, so this wasn’t a negative for me, I understand why it could be for some people.
The ending was… well, of the three endings that I know of, the third one is weird, I think talking about it would be spoilers at this time so let’s be vague, the first part of the climax is a bit mid though I understand why is like that, but the second part was amazing and the reward and payoff of that ending is excellent and very fullfilling (It remember me a lot of something on my favourite scenario campaing in the Apocalypse sourcebook and the amazing reward it brings. There’s only one thing I would change, but talking about it would be spoilers, so, I preffer not.)
I have two more endings to go, that probably I’m going to do later before the last patch came, and then I’m going to wait for all DLC to replay the game anew, because, yeah, the bugs were the worst part of this game, no doubts.
This is a 7/10 for me, I’ll give it more, but as I played it at release, with no bugpatches and patches that broke my experience even more is an adequate score.
The game is excellent. but release week for something as big and complex like this haven’t make it a pleasant ride. Personally, when everything is fixed, I can see this rubbing shoulders with the top of the WoD games, but we’ll have to wait for that.
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