New Hosted Game! "The Great Tournament 2" by Philip Kempton

I would advise New Game, just because I don’t know how far you have gotten into the story arc for the “Justice for Magincia” scenario. It might not allow you to reload re-choose the name, but I don’t want to say that and it end up not being the case. New Game should work with no issues. I hope that helps.

1 Like

Com’on! I have followed a story line (Married with Nadine, ask for King, remained neutral with the factions, send to aid Valra) for sooo long and I end up dying throught that stupid king of Valra comes with a silly thousands soldiers after 100 days prepairing! I couldnt make a treaty with only 2 tribes and then still loosing the game. It’s just ridiculous. What did I wrong?
Maybe you have to insert a saving button because I have played for hours and can start all over again. For example that I can save the game before when I am send to aid Valra. Because it will take so long to get back to this moment in the game. I have now no desire to play the game all over again.

There are (I think) some bugs in the game:

[spoiler]There 3 factions described that were competing at the court: loyalist, conservatives and those who wanted a republic. But I couldn’t choose the side of the last one?

Whatever I do to get King when the first King died, Hannah always becomes the Queen. I have the feeling that there is missing a page between when you vote and the page that Hannay is declared Queen. It was a little bit abrubtly[/spoiler].

It is a nice game with many storylines, I am really enjoying it. I have succeeded the game with my choices from the first sequel, but the other storylines are much harder.

The vote is rigged, the best you can get is a tie and then since Hannah is the regent she will just vote for herself. If you vote for Robin Hannah will win too. Also if you chose gold as your boon you’d only get 5000 and not a million.

About the three factions, the last one is said to be very selective. I think you need to choose make Magincia a Republic as your boon or be married to Ashera…or maybe both

Was it really a million in the last game? I know it was more than 5000, but not that high. What you don’t know is your character went on a massive spending spree and bought a bunch of gold bling to put around his neck. Made some investments into a crypto currency called Varys coins and lost a good portion of it.

If you picked the gold boon you got all the gold in the treasury (a million gold) and later used it to become king, you were so rich you could bribe all the lords and later win a civil war with your money (giving you the king achievement)

MC had a brother in the first game, named Vaughn, whatever happened to him?

@Jerieth Um, so, I asked this earlier but it would be nice to hear from you, the author, is the loss of stats upon importation an intended feature of the game? Thanks in advance.

The game was intended to be standalone, (to be completely open with all of you, I never planned a sequel until I got a few thousand emails from fans asking when the next one would be out). If anyone is upset with any continuity issues such as asking for all the gold in the treasury, that may be why. I had to be very creative in how I continued the story, had I known a sequel was coming I would have adjusted those boons at the end of TG1 greatly.

At the time, I was currently working on a different project, but I put that all aside and started working on the TG2 story full time. I was getting a lot of feedback from fans and I was surprised at how many people did not end up with Hannah in TG1. I assume it was probably still the majority or a big number, but a lot of the emails I received were talking about Nadine, Abi, and other paths I thought were non-traditional.

I decided to do something rather ambitious and it took quite a lot of work. I decided to essentially create five or so games in one. I hadn’t seen any sequel on COG that allowed the player to pick up right where they left off, and to also give them at least three completely unique stories based on the previous game. In case you guys are not aware, not counting the extra scenarios there are around three main story arcs, The Prince of Magnicia, The Lord of Redwood, and the Justice for Magincia stories. Within those three story arcs, there are about a dozen or so variations based on the choices from the previous game. Also, I am not sure if anyone has found this out yet, if you play on hard I add a lot of extra scenes; depending on the scenario you choose it can be around 10% to 25% more dialogue and story options. I also was surprised at how committed some players were at getting all the achievements so I decided to go big, and maxed out all the achievement points I could. (Many of them are hidden, so if you are able to unlock all of them huge props to you.) It wasn’t until much later in the process did the opportunity to restore saves come about.

TG1 did not have a store save feature, so COG had to update it to include this. At that point, I was already done with 85% of the game, so importing your stats from the previous game would have had major balancing issues. For anyone having trouble try playing on Easy. I did add a checkpoint system on at least one story arc if you play on easy, also keep in mind Easy means more you want to enjoy the story more, and worry less about passing checks or making optimal decisions, Normal can be challenging, but doable and good for players that want to be challenged, and Hard…well hard is very very unforgiving…basically only for people that don’t mind doing multiple play-throughs to get something right. It is funny, in the last game some people complained it was too easy, others complained it was too hard, so I put in a lot of effort to make the difficulty in this game matter a lot more; It doesn’t just give you more or less stats, it changes everything from how difficult it is to pass stat checks to how strong the enemies you fight are. If you were to look at the code it is constantly checking difficultly levels.

To sum up, since TG1 was created with a followup story in mind (different MC), but not a direct sequel. Upon hearing requests for a sequel, I devoted all my time into creating a game that would allow anyone who played the previous game (no matter how they ended it), to have a continuation of that particular and unique story, tailored to their own choices. At this point, I couldn’t import the stats since it was already balanced for a New Game. Upon learning about the restore function, however, I realized I could add even more variation to the story based on your individual choices. I mean…try choosing different options and see how much of the story changes based on it. Even small things.

I hope that answers your question. Sequels can be tough, and the main focus I was trying to go for was something no one had done yet, which was essentially several games in one based on all the choices you made in the previous game. (You wouldn’t believe how many story branches I had to account for. It probably would have been easier to just have forced everyone to start the game Married to Hannah, but I didn’t want to do that. I wanted everyone to have a continuation of their story. It was a very ambitious task, and at some points I felt the strain hard. In case you are wondering I import about 161 variables from TG1 when you restore, but I would say only only about 30 of those variables make a major impact on the game’s story.)

19 Likes

Still doesn’t absolve you, you have Hannah’s blood on your hands. If she didn’t take my throne i right fully earned she would be alive at the end of most of my playthroughs.

5 Likes

Ok…this made me chuckle…but only a little bit. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

2 Likes

@Jerieth …it wasn’t your fault …Lol

What is the worth of Throne as compare with the True Love of Hannah right ? :smile:

Hannah can have my throne for eternity if she so desired … i don’t mind staying close by her and only intervene when real harm come to Hannah :smile:

6 Likes

Wew, my ‘Domesticated’ Prince Arthur conquered both Brunich, Galmencia and Secured an alliance with Valra without ever hurting my marriage with Hanna, Long live Prince Arthur the Great Conqueror (and add a 10/10 economy to boot) this is definetely one of my favorite games in HG!

5 Likes

But I do agree with the above though, As long as hannah is happy, I’d be willing to be known as Prince Arthur the Lame.

4 Likes

So I love the game but I was curious about the “Justice for Magincia” story. Like what’s the story ark? Is it about Malik or just like what is it. Other than that I’ve been replaying it over and over trying to find and do everything.

1 Like

Revenge for you. Justice for MC’s Son would be more right lol

2 Likes

You beautiful madman you, I’d give you reddit silver if we were on there

2 Likes

So, does Hannah become the queen no matter what?

1 Like

In the story where you lose the tournament Malik becomes king and not her

1 Like

I meant, is there no way to win the vote (or have Robin win)? Is it only possible to get a tie at best and then have Hannah break it in her favor?

1 Like