@Hazel , it makes me think of Snow White’s Rose Red being pissed off about something and casting a curse of someone out of spite. Sorry, just the first thing that came to mind.
I agree with basically all of what you said (and what @will said too). We need more positive focus on short characters. It always annoys me to no end when shortness is pretty much a laughing stock, as you said using Shrek as an example.
I mean… You don’t control height. Being tall isn’t something impressive that you had to work for to accomplish. Being short isn’t some sort of failing. Both are just genetics, for the most part. Big whoop. But heaven forbid if we don’t try and make some group feel bad about themselves for once.
With regards to the following:
Look, I get that there’s probably no ill intent at play here and I acknowledged that in my last post. I said that in that case there are no hard feelings, and I mean that. I don’t assume that about you or anyone else either, everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt. So please keep that in mind while reading the rest of my post (I mean, assuming you do )
Which I’m hiding because it got long and I will spare people the off topic talk if they want to avoid it.
Also, fair warning if anyone’s sensitive to this: I mention some not so nice words about heavy set people and short people to demonstrate a point.
Summary
The way you word certain things can definitely come across as more rude than you intended, and personally, I think it’s useful when people tell you as much because it’s the only way to learn about other people’s experiences. Especially because there are so many writers here, learning about what makes people tick seems really useful information to have.
I can appreciate you sticking up for someone you feel was wronged, I really can, but your argument seems a bit flawed. “It’s about averages, not individuals,” but without individuals, there are no averages. That average is made up 100% by the individuals in the country. The number didn’t just pop up out of thin air, it’s based on people. Indirectly, you’re still talking about individuals. And fiction and reality aren’t so far apart that you can say something about a fictional race without also implying something about the real people who are like them. Let me just give you some examples.
If you called a relatively short race a race of midgets, imagine how someone shorter than the shortest character would feel.
If you called a heavier set race of humans Hutts, imagine how someone around that weight or heavier would feel.
I could go on, but honestly, I don’t want to because even typing them up as examples makes me feel bad towards those people. But surely most people are sensitive enough to these groups that they recognize the words used above as rude and unnecessary.
Now ask yourself whether adding a whimsical smiley after calling people who are lighter or around the weight of that heavier set person a race of Hutts would take away that sting. And ask yourself whether it would make that short person feel better if you told them that, technically, you weren’t calling them a midget, you were calling the race consisting of people taller than them midgets.
With all due respect, you and I probably aren’t talking about the same thing here either. I don’t mind people talking about statistic averages. I clarified what I meant when I used the word average and explained why it was like that to me. But it doesn’t offend me in the slightest when someone says “That’s not an average height,” or “This race sounds really tall,” or even “I’ve never seen a woman over 6’,” because sure. All those things could be true to you.
The only qualm I had with his post was the choice to refer to people as giants with unnatural heights. I questioned whether that choice of wording was really necessary. He made his point perfectly fine with those statistics, he could’ve easily referred to this race as just really tall, and said people tend to make characters tall in a way most people won’t relate to.
There’s a big difference between saying super tall and unnaturally or unrealistically tall. I mean yeah, I am very tall, but I’m pretty sure I’m real and my parents didn’t slip me any growth enhancers as a child… in fact, my doctor at the time suggested they give their 6 year old child untested growth blockers that mess with her biology because “Well, we aren’t sure how she’s going to come out of this “treatment” but we predict that without it she’s going to be quite a bit taller than the average girl (at the time the predicted average was probably 5’5”?) and you wouldn’t want a giant for a daughter, would you mom and dad? Hopefully we won’t damage her too much in the long run with this untested drug but I’m certainly willing to make that gamble in order to make her meet the average standard!”
And now you hopefully get why those comments weren’t nice to hear for me and others like me. This was on top of being photographed without my permission by tourists, and talking to people online from overseas who gave unsolicited comments how undateable I was because they’d feel like walking next to a giant. Thank God my mom laughed in that doctor’s face for suggesting she put her child up as a guinea pig over something as ridiculous as height, because as it turns out, girls who were put on those drugs are basically infertile now due to their sex organs maturing too rapidly, and boys have increased chances of developing bone or heart diseases due to messing with their hormones. And that’s just the side effects they now know about. All in an effort to not have an unnatural giant as a child but a more average one. Which, joke’s on them because looking around on a given day shows they clearly failed.
I will state again that I don’t think he (or you) had bad intentions with the things you said. I even get why midget feels meaner than giant to most people because on average short people probably get mocked over their height more than tall people. That doesn’t mean tall people don’t have their own not so happy experiences though. So with that in mind, again, is it really necessary to say those things?
Ending this here because I sincerely hope you get where I’m coming from better now. And once again, no hard feelings. I’m just trying to explain where I’m coming from with this.