Hero Project: Redemption Season News and Discussion

I agree generally that the identity politics of the latest game detracted from the story. The game is kind of a one way street that way as the checks are designed for your character to be an identity politics crusader. Honestly, I’d prefer that the games be like the last ones where the game focused on an entertaining superhero story. I don’t mind people involving people of different backgrounds and presenting different options. However, I prefer games that are entertaining over those that are preachy. This latest installment of the Hero Project was a lesser installment because it was too hung up on its own politics and too little on being a good story. It was okay but I thought the previous hero project games were great.

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A+ rhyme and analogy.

You make an excellent, excellent point. It started to feel more like a power-point on discrimination and identity the closer I got to the middle of it than an actual story about superheroes. :frowning:

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I had some English language in high school. However, mostly of my English knowledge it is totally a
Self learning with my mighty Oxford advanced Dictionary English -Spanish. And Grammar exercises, Even if lately I am being a little lazy with Grammar exercises. It’s not funny doing tons of repetitive exercises about which proposition goes with each phrase in, on and at . I started in 2011, basically same time I started login here with my old account. I know I should being more advanced than I am , but I am not a fast learner, I am stubborn as a drunken goat so I am definitely decided to someday being fluent on it, or die trying. That’s probably why nasty comments sometimes get me down, When I am trying hard and then a nasty message appear calling me stupid or why don’t go learning before posting with so broken grammar. However, I also have many gentle people given me advice or cheers too, those messages make me happy in rainy days.

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You’re what?

You’re self taught?

I would not have guessed that at all. Like, I took 5 years of French in high school and all I understand is that one phrase from Lady Marmalade. And, you know, writing is probably the hardest aspect of English (so many dumb rules. so many DUMB RULES LIKE ???). I know people in real life that can speak perfect, fluent English, but tell them to write down how their day was in one page and it’ll sound like a first grader wrote it. I plan to become an English teacher and even my written English is cringe worthy from time to time.

Look, man, if anyone ever calls you stupid because you know a second language, and know how to write decently in that second language (your grammar, honestly, is at a high school level and probably above) they’re just jealous. I get so livid when someone tells another person they’re stupid because English is their second language and they’re not that great at speaking it, but you can understand what they’re saying regardless. My mother’s full on Filipino and her English isn’t that great, but she’s had people call her dumb and stupid (to name a few non-expletives) because she couldn’t string a sentence perfectly together when she first came here. Now she’s got a minimal accent and won’t stop talking for the life of her because she’s stubborn and likes to prove people wrong.

So, yeah, you’re already proving a lot of those people who’ve called you names wrong. The fact that you know two (or more) languages, in and of itself, makes you smarter than a lot of the American population because most of us only know English (and some of us think that’s the only language we should know >_>). I lost my ability to speak and understand Tagalog because my mother was scared to death of this exact thing happening to me in school (getting called names because my English wasn’t all that), so you’ve got one up on me there too.

I’ma punch anyone who calls you goddamn names for your comprehension of English tho. I’ma do it. I’ll fite 'em. ʕง•ᴥ•ʔง

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SPOLIER DONT READ PLEASE


First thing i love the hero games yay hero. Quick question though bout the game how can i save miss boss from dying? I dont know why i just love miss boss. Im a big emotional person and having her die just makes me tear up. Just wondering if you could actually save her or not.

Sorry if for whatever reason this bothers you. Dont have to answer if you dont want to. Thank you in advance

You can save her, you need 80 for your societal stat though. Jumping after her is a good idea since it gives you a bit more societal right before the it checks your stats.

Thank you thank you thank you!!!

You need at least 81 of societal to save her. If you have “only” 80, she will die.

One thing that I didn’t like about the game is the romance system. It seems you only get one sweet moment during a chapter and then nothing afterwards, only one scene with Transfer at the ceremony and a few references here and there with Miss Boss (which I will add you can only kiss her if you vote out Transfer. That’s a tad irritating :expressionless:) while the heroes rise trilogy kept the romance flow evenly and individually to some degree.

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I keep reading it, and I really want to like it but seriously, it just keeps shoving this discrimination awareness in my face like I don’t live with it every day. I wanted to a “Super Heroes do Reality Show” but no… I get an Equal Rights speel and it’s like it’s the MAIN thing and the game show is just something going on in the background. I mean, that’s great and all but that’s not what I was expecting when I PAID for it.

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But that makes sense, if you vote Griffin then you are making the only hero with energy based powers who depends on Miss Boss and wants to work with her leave.You are making her position very fragile in the game.
While if you vote Transfer, you make her position stronger.

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She seemed absolutely fine with the plasma weapons, even better in fact :smirk:

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That is not true. Her powers are limited by how powerful the energy she is manipulating.
I doubt the pistol has the same level of power as Griffin’s powers.

She only did better because Outlet is pure energy and when he was out, she couldn’t defeat Voice because her pistol didn’t have enough power to get through his shield.

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She still had some use of power, so she wasn’t as useless as she made herself out to be.

I don’t think much could penetrate Voiceless’ shield anyway so even if she had Griffin’s powerset with her, the results would be the same.

Useless? No, but her position would be threatened, because she wouldn’t be as powerful as she was with Griffin.

Maybe she wouldn’t be able to defeat Voice, but you cant deny she was underpowred without Griffin.

I’m afraid I have to agree with many people here that this game so far isn’t exactly perfect. It’s not bad either, but I’m not sure I’d call it good.

When I started out, I was really excited about the MC’s power set - waking up as a different animal each day seemed like it would make for some pretty cool and exciting (and funny) situations. However, I felt like except for battle options, their power set wasn’t utilized in the way it could be. (I liked the scene where the MC first meets Transfer in hir werewolf form and has to hold back from sniffing hir butt. It was funny and showcased the personal effects of being part animal in a way that made me feel connected to the character.)

And like most people here, I wasn’t satisfied with how heavy-handed the issue of discrimination was handled. Now, I’m queer and I enjoy stories that don’t gloss over the existence of minorities. However, much like in Heroes Rise: Hero Project, the endless yammering about societal problems got repetitive and even annoying. Maybe it’s because I spend enough time in real life living these problems, but I tend to get tired of preaching quickly, at least in games like these.
I much prefer positive representation of different minorities to be given without extensive discussion (because the problems are talked about, but rarely shown) of how much everything sucks.

Games are a form of escapism for me, after all, and I’d rather not have to slog through the same old reality crap time after time.

Another minus for me were the characters in general. I’m not sure if it’s just because this is the first installment and I have yet to really come to know the characters, but I don’t really like…anyone. I don’t dislike them either, I just…don’t care. To be honest, I feel like the MC hasn’t gotten to know any of them very well - most conversations revolved so exclusively around society and its problems that I couldn’t form a personal connection to these people. Hell, we didn’t even see the MC and Weaver meet for the first time. We were just TOLD that they’re cool with each other.
So when the time came to choose a RO, it seemed so nonsensical for my hero to be interested in anyone that I picked at random.

Now while this all sounds very negative, the writing is still great and I am absolutely willing to give the second installment a shot. We’ll see how it goes.

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Oooh, this though. I forgot to even touch up on the characters. None of the new characters seem very memorable. They’re just there and a lot of them are just there to talk about societal problems. I don’t know them beyond that. I did stop in the middle, though, before Miss Boss kinda bit the dust, so I’m not sure if I’m missing much on developments or stuff like that.

While I have been spouting nonstop criticism about the game, I do agree with this sentiment. The author hasn’t lost touch with their ability to write very well and coherently. However, their story just seems so bogged down with preaching that it comes off wrong and not entertaining. But, I’m with you on this one… mostly… I did say I’d continue if, uh, I got my Jury/MC happy ending. ;3; Still… still so bitter about it. It just huuuuurts aaaaaaahhhhh. Does that make me seem shallow? Ah, I don’t care. I need closure.

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That’s one of the hazards with creating another series that builds off the first - The author will try to resolve something in such a way to keep the narrative fluid that it tends to rub the readers the wrong way.

Funnily enough? I’m not sure if it’s my recent binging on Daredevil, but the character I liked the most was Weaver.

I’m not sure how it seems for anyone else, but I think the author rushed things a little. Maybe I’m just an optimist, but the characters seemed like they really wanted to be more than just these one-sided constructs at times, yet fell flat in favor of pushing the plot. We barely even get a chance to connect with JK (Who was clearly supposed to be analogous to grams from the original) before being thrust into the story proper. All we really get to do is sympathize with her for a fraction of a moment. She’s not our sister, she’s something to protect. Contrast Grams, who was gentle, kind, and surprisingly multi-faceted. She wasn’t JUST your caretaker/grams, she was your mother’s mothe, and your biggest fan, too.

Though I can’t imagine a way out of it, I really think the second installment needs to stray away from the reality show setting. Maybe give us a breather from the show. Give us time to actually learn about the characters, and EXPERIENCE the discrimination that’s shoved down our throats rather than thrust before our eyes.

“Don’t tell me the moon is shining; show me the glint of light on broken glass.” Anton Chekhov has a point. Put us in those situations. Stick Jel in a precarious position where perpetuating her stereotype isn’t the bad idea. Stop trying to pontificate on the issue, and dial down the social dialogue. If you want to make a statement, don’t. Create a situation that proves your point.

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I actually did enjoy the story, not as much as the previous ones, but still found it well written enough that I’m still glad I read it. In saying that, I’m going to agree with the majority on this thread, I did find the anti-discrimination story line too heavy handed and railroaded for my tastes. (Which also seems to limit the replayability differences on the replays I did as well.) Around here though, it’s kind of preaching to the choir on the whole. Most people around this forum I’ve found lean to the tollerant side and don’t need to be wacked repeatedly over the head with this concept. Not all the reviewers on the other sites seem to agree with the sentiment here, so I don’t know, maybe it’s not as obvious to all?

I really didn’t mind that Jury and BM had moved on, I figured that’s what people do sometimes. I was never Jury’s greatest fan and could imagine this is something he would conceivebly do, and BM, well he went off the rails just a tiny bit in the last installment and now seems to have a whole new outlook on like so I’m happy to give it a pass on my account anyway.

Not a huge fan of the restrictions for saving Miss Boss, wouldn’t have known that’s why she kept dying on me without the hints. The character that I didn’t like was actually the hashtag ani-guy (name escapes me). For some reason I just kept seeing Jar Jar Binks superimposed over him everytime he kind of cluelessly jumped into a social scene and I started to find it kind of annoying. (Not sure if that was deliberate or not). I also didn’t like it was implied that I was judging him on his appearence and powerset rather than his personality/actions and the game made me say I’d try to make it up to him. Still I enjoyed it enough that I would pick up an episode two if it came out. I don’t mean to be harsh, it’s that the bar was set high by the previous books :slight_smile:

(Also I liked Prodigal’s personality for the mechip. I’d pick her over the previous options any day for storyline purposes.)

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