Eh, feeling a little down today (but thanks for asking). The thing with dropbox no longer enabling HTML is depressing, because even though Iām sure Iāll eventually find some kind of alternative for hosting Guenevere, the original link to the game has been spread far and wide on tumblr and elsewhere, and now that link is going to break no matter what. (Yes, I can probably replace the HTML index file with a document that will give the new link when I have one, but still⦠not the same. Not a redirect, which wonāt be possible.) And Iām super-busy with work right now, so trying to figure out a hosting alternative ā even if itās as simple as learning how to use ftp for LordIrishās (may all the gods smile upon him) very generous offer to host ā isnāt how I want to be spending my time. Iād rather be writing my actual game! Stupid Dropbox.
I hope everything works out well!
Iām not sure if this has been asked before, but⦠will Duchess Tilda be a RO? Iāve been wondering that ever since my third play through, but I wasnāt sure if it had been asked before or not. Itād make for a good achievement⦠something like āDiplomatic Relations - Secure peace between Britain and Frankenmarch by seducing/wooing Duchess Tildaā. Iāve been playing through Part II and I canāt help but ship Arthur X Radagund. While I highly doubt I could hook them up, at the very least I hope they can become friends and allies.
@Asura Iām definitely not ruling out Tilda as a RO; the idea does appeal to me. The question is just how much I can manage to work her into the plot after part 2 ā she is slated for more appearances, but I donāt know yet if theyāll be substantial enough to turn into a romantic/sexual relationship. (Though I suppose if nothing else, she and Guen could have a one-night stand.) Thatās the sort of thing Iāll go back and layer in once Iāve finished all seven parts.
Arthur and Radagund would indeed get along very well with each other, which makes the whole mess with Frankmarch that much more tragic.
@jeantown in the Gueneverse will their be any openly gay/non binary lords or people, or will they be more secretive about it.
I understand why theyād be more secretive about it, but itād be hilarious to see an extremely flamboyant and bubbly (yay stereotypes) character.
And as for expanding England for a military Guen, what can she do? Can we destroy the Saxon guys and the Franks if we pass all checks, or is some stuff only going to work (like taking over the Saxons) if we go against/ with Arthurās ideals
And what will happen if Arthur gets seriously injured? Will he blame us or does it depend on what we do instead? And would he be happy or less happy with us choosing certian options, like favouring defending England or him over the other options
Is expanding England kind of the preferred path for a military Guen? It certainly sounds like it has potential, and itāll certainly be a key point if you end up defecting to Mordred. The domination of the lands will practically be a requirement for a military Guen, so Iām assuming in that scenario weāll be able to take over quite a lot of places. Even if we donāt, Iām guessing itāll be implied.
With Arthur though, Iām not sure; youāll need to be pretty proficient in manipulation to pull that off without him losing trust in you, but if you want to conquer a land that has done nothing to you to start with, I think itās a pretty safe assumption that Arthur will not approve.
Expansion wonāt be the path for all military Guens though; my Guen is a strategic and military genius, and sheās content to just be left alone to do her studies unless sheās needed. Which she will be a lot when people both recognise her genius and said genius is developed.
Arthur: āLook, weāve tried everything; theyāre too good at routing our troops. Maybeā¦we lose this battle and regroup so we can win the war.ā
(awkward silence)
Arthur: āā¦what?ā
Lancelot: āā¦We thought youād say thatā¦ā
Morgana: āSo we invited Guen.ā
Arthur: āYou what?ā
(Enter Guen, flinging the flaps of the tent open in extremely dramatic fashion with the smuggest grin in existence).
Guen: āHey, morons. So what mess do you want me to get you out of this time?ā
(Arthur sends death glares at Lancelot and Morgana, who just look at their feet while Guen waits expectantly).
This is one of my set-in-stone headcanons that I always imagine happening to my military Guen. Expansion be damned.
Yeah, why canāt she just fight the Welsh like everyone else?
@Sherlock221B
Considering that Guen happens to be the queen of what seems to be a unified Welsh stateā¦
Hmm⦠well, itās complicated. People in the Guenverse donāt tend to think of sexual orientation as an identity so much as a preference. Same-sex attraction in itself isnāt considered shameful, but nobles are expected to reproduce, so they tend not to advertise s-s attraction as that might be seen as an obstacle to reproduction. one exception belowā¦
Probably the closest youāre going to get is Lancelotās cousin Lionel, who can make an appearance in the Michaelsmount branch and also appears in Lancelotās prequel. Lionel is relatively flamboyant and cares a lot about clothes. Heās not particularly attracted to women and makes no secret about that, but heās nonetheless in the position of trying to find a wife in order to shut his family up. Heās currently courting Lady Elise, and heās been completely honest with her about everything. Sheās still trying to make up her mind about it. I actually donāt know yet what Elise will decide; probably Iāll have to wait until part 3 to find out.
There will be at least one other major gay character who will be much less stereotypical, and also more discreet about his preferences. He has a stronger sense of duty than Lionel, and is under a lot more serious pressure (including self-imposed pressure) to make a strong political marriage with children.
You may have to settle for containing/controlling the Franks rather than destroying them; theyāre much larger and more powerful than Britain. The Romano-Saxons could maybe be wiped out? Not sure yet; Iāll have to see how that goes. Arthur would definitely not agree with that decision, though. Following Arthurās ideals is more likely to result in alliances rather than expansion.
For that, youāll just have to wait and see (too spoilery).
Not preferred, necessarily ā the real victory will be fighting off the Romans at the end, and a military Guen can do that without taking over other territory ā but yes, Mordred would prefer expansion.
Yes.
Yes; the extremely vague implication is that Guenās Britain is extremely vaguely Celtic, in a totally anachronistic way that includes tons of later medieval French culture and nomenclature (as is typical for Arthurian legend). The exact status of Wales has not been specified, but you can vaguely assume that itās kinda sorta part of Guenās Britain. In any case, the Guenverseās Wales is definitely not a separate nation with a border.
Oh, one thing I forgot to mention: I just found out that PWLI and I will very likely be visiting Scotland sometime next summer, and we are going to try to get up to Orkney. So I will probably be able to write some of the parts of Guen Book III that are set in Orkney while Iām actually in Orkney!!
Iāve been to Glastonbury and Stonehenge and other Arthurian/medieval sites in southern England, but never to Orkney, so Iām really excited!
Hope you enjoy your trip!
Out of curiosity, how old are Tilda and Radagund? Iām guessing Tillyās roughly the same age as Guen, but Rad strikes me as a fair bit younger.
Thanks!
Radagund is 18. (She was 10 when Lancelot rescued her; he was 16 at the time.) Tilda is a little older. I donāt seem to have written an exact age for her in my notes, but I imagine her being early 20s. So, since Guen is 21 in part 2, youāre basically correct about both.
Hmm⦠Iām guessing she might have quite the crush on Lance, then? Makes me wonder if that - or at least the fact that she owes him her life - could be exploitable to get her to call off the invasion?
How do you shade spoilers while typing on the phone and Iām back
Either by typing [spoiler] whatever should be blurry [/spoiler]
Or by going on the little gear in the menu (if you donāt get it displayed, first click on the menu button on the upper right corner):
if you kill the Saxon in the beginning does he come back as a zombie.
Inspired by @Tntrules, in the Camelot battle, can a high dark magic Guen use her dark magic skills to go to a cemetery and make zombies (or skeletons, or what-have-you) as a last-minutes preparation?
Also, could we do the same against the Romano-Saxons and the Roman invasion?
We must do everything we can to protect the kingdom! For Camelot!
Okay so, sometimes I get confused on which knights or characters are confirmed to appear or havenāt been asked about without going through the whole game or forum, so I decided to make a little list to keep track.
Iāve only listed major Arthurian characters, if lesser-known ones show up Iāll add them. If I missed anyone important, which Iām sure I did, please tell me!
Bold - Character has been confirmed to appear or exist.
Crossed Out - Character does not exist or will not appear, or has been fused with another character.
Characters that have not appeared, may or may not appear, or been have not been confirmed yet are just regular text.
FIRST GEN: Uther. Igraine. Gorlois. Merlin. Leodegrance. Ector. Lot. Urien. Pellinore. Pelles. Vivien. Evaine. Bors. Esclabor. Ban. Claudus. Elaine/Alana. Nimue. Aglovale.
SECOND GEN: Arthur. Morgana. Guenevere. Lancelot. Guinevak. Morgause. Elaine of Corbenic. Elaine of Astolat. Tristan. Isolde. Lionel. Kay. Bedivere. Ywain. Tor. Sagramore. Safir. Palamedes. Pelleas. King Mark. Meleagaunt. Laudine. Lanval. Morien. Dindrane. Dinadan. Galehaut. Enid. Eric. Dagonet. Constantine. Blanchefleur. Emperor Lucius. Breunor. Elyan. Bors. Lucan. Griflet. Baldwin. Balin. Balan. Geraint. Hector. Accolon.
THIRD GEN: Gawain. Gaheris. Gareth. Agravaine. Mordred. Galahad. Ragnelle. Lynette. Lyonesse. Percival. Lamorak. Beatrice. Evaline.
NEW: Maris. Bretta. Elise. Radagund. Ranulf. Camden. Aristause. Margaret. Tilda. Vathac. Cornelia. Julia. Hrothulf. Evaline. Eva. Grimald.
@sirgalahad Is their a Kay? Like a knight of something? Iām terrible with this sorta stuffā¦
Also replacing a funny comment I found in another game, this is Fairlyfairfighterās new favourite code:
*if (havecarrot)
*goto carrotbomb
Or anything to do with enchanted carrots, really.
@fairlyfairfighter Yup, there is! Kay is Arthurās foster brother.
@Asura Radagund does admire Lancelot very much. That said, she didnāt want the invasion in the first place but was powerless to prevent it, so her history with him on its own isnāt enough to change anything. But most of the Frankish nobles do view him favorably, which gives him an advantage if he goes to Frankmarch.
@Tntrules No, nobody comes back as a zombie in this game.
Zombies and animate skeletons and stuff donāt appear in Arthurian mythology. Although Iām giving the mythos a lot of my own twists, Iād still like it to have an Arthurian feel, so no zombies, Iām afraid. Giants and magical animals and enchanted forests instead.
@sirgalahad Thank you; this list is helpful for reminding me of characters I havenāt used and could still pull out if I need them! Let me check your list against my ridiculously huge character fileā¦
First Gen looks about right except that we will have a Pelles ā heās King Pellinoreās younger brother and Elaineās father in this version, but heās not the Fisher-King. (though the whole Pellinore family are the āGrail Guardians.ā) I probably wonāt have him be wounded because heās going to be kind of a villain and I donāt want to perpetuate the ādisability = evilā stereotype. He might have a small permanent wound from a giantās sword (like Meligauntās) but it wonāt be disabling.
Ban and his wife both get talked about in the Lancelot prequel but donāt appear. I renamed that Elaine āAlanaā to avoid confusion because there are too many Elaines. But speaking of people with the same name, we will be getting both Bors the Elder and Bors the Younger (also in the Lancelot prequel). Iām rather fond of my version of Bors the Younger, who is a knight at Arthurās court in part 1.
Oh, and Uriens exists, as the brother of King Lot, but he wonāt show up. Heāll get referenced at the beginning of part 3.
Nimue is actually first gen in my version. If I ever write a whole prequel novel about Utherās generation, Iād like it to be from the PoV of Ygraine, Vivien, and Nimue. Right now my notes for it are a big unsatisfying mess.
Second Gen: Was Lucan in there? Heās Camelotās titular head of household and may be retrofitted into some of the chamberlainās roles, but more importantly, he often gets deployed as a diplomat. Lucan is Bedivereās younger brother. Tor appears in the Michaelsmount branch. Heās Agolvaleās younger brother and honestly doesnāt have much of a personality yet, except that heās a bit nervous. Griflet goes to Michaelsmount, too, though you wonāt get to interact with him much. Oh, and Baldwin is also there. Heās a light magic user, a priestess of the Goddess (as a nod to his traditional clerical role). Laudine is Yvainās wife and makes a brief appearance in the Camelot branch. Dagonet is in my notes with a ???, meaning that at one point I must have thought I was going to do something with him, and then forgot, but if I need to pull in another knight for some reason, it could likely be him.
Percival is going to be third gen here. He and Lamorak will be Pellinoreās sons and make their first appearance as children in part 4. Eventually theyāll be childhood friends with Galahad. Blanchefleur and Ragnelle are more likely than not to show up in some form, though I donāt have specific plans for them yet.
Grimald is indeed my own OC, though heās so highly troperiffic that itās hard to call him original in any way. Radagund is essentially an OC ā the name shows up occasionally in Arthurian stuff, but sheās not based on any traditional Radagund. Her father Claudas, of course, does appear in Arthurian tradition as an adversary.
Other OCs: Queen Evaline of Benoic, who is Lancelot and Lionelās cousin. Sheās married to Bors the Younger and basically runs East Gaul single-handedly because Bors, who is technically king of Benoic, isnāt really fit to rule and heās much happier just being one of Arthurās knights. (Everyoneās fine with this arrangement.) Bedivereās young daughter Eva (brief appearance in Camelot branch). Julia Saxonica (still not sure if sheāll be showing up later or not, but probably).
Oh, and youāll see Ranulf and Camden in Arthurās prequel, and even find out how they came to be his guards.
Now if I could just figure out a cool backstory for Maris and Bretta⦠Iāve still got nothing.
Might be my favorite code, too, with the possible exception of ā*goto sex.ā I wonder how many people will actually find the part where you can use the carrot as a bomb? Thereās only one opportunity, and itās somewhat buried.