okay, I have totally lost the thread of whats going on here, but then I found it as soon as it popped up on my profile 
, soooo, whats this talk of stable-boys & Royalty?
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TSSL
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Ah, so I just saw this thread for the first time 
and am quite intrigued by the premise.
One question currently preying on my mind… given the matchmaking theme, and given that you’ve noted that there’s a heteronormative society (tunic people must dance with dress people 
)… will there be any chances of matchmaking against the heteronormativity? If there’s a couple of tunic people who’d be cute together, for example? 
Or is that spoilers? 
That sounds cute too 
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Alas no stable boys!
Firstly, it’s a game with an extremely small cast of characters. There’s only six in the main storyline. (Two men, three women, and a Dragon.) Plus the Fairy Godfather at the beginning, and possibly the King and Queen.) This is mostly to keep it manageable and so that I will finish this game! (Even if it ends up being super-short. It’s a sort of tangly mess of lots and lots of different endings at the moment but that might change.)
This is a very heterosexual kingdom and everyone in it is definitely very heterosexual one man+one woman=marriage thank you very much and then lots of heterosexual babies afterwards to continue the cycle for eternity. Do not question how things are, this is the straightest Kingdom there has ever been. Men will be men, women will be women, and everyone will conform to their expected gender norms.
Yeah, it’s full of silly human rules that make no sort of sense when you’re not human, (Dragon agrees with you here), and if you decide to do some matchmaking that ignores said rules, because you think you know better, well there’s very little the humans can do about it. Not everyone will be happy with matches you try and force though, but some are more willing to go along with you than others. (Particularly since some aren’t really in a position where they can protest.)
BUT! I should stop talking about my game and focus on writing it, before I start giving away spoilers. Otherwise I might as well just write this as a short story instead of the game it’s meant to be.
Don't Click! Super Spoilers!
Warning you! The game was created for the theme Poisonous Intent. I consider those Kingdom rules extremely poisonous, with the forced heterosexuality, sexism, and gender-policing.
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Problem is, some people wouldn’t get that that was “bad”…
(I mean, if all the humans actually preferred non-straight relationships, but were being forced into them by society, then we’d have something more “poisonous”…)
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Laguz
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Truth. It’ll fly over the cishets’ heads if it’s subtle and natural, and you’ll be lambasted as “shoving your SJW agenda down people’s throats” and being “too political” if you’re forceful and obvious.
So you lose either way.
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Yeh, @FairyGodfeather FORCED Relationships is directly rape or worse. IF THEY ARE HETEROSEXUAL they are that way you can’t force people aginst their Sexuality. Nor Homosexuals nor non binaries nor aces nor anyone.I am heterosexual personally so imagine a moron fairy will brainwashing me to have sex with someone i don’t wanna…
Laguz
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Mara, why is it that everything that is even a narrative problem you immediately label rape? You fling rape accusations around absolutely everywhere, without knowing what’s actually going on.
Both of you don’t actually know what’s going to be in the game at the moment. After hearing FG’s entire plot for the game a couple months (?) back, you’re all being dumb and shouldn’t jump to conclusions.
The idea is that people are not allowed to be what they want and dress how they want and love who they love because of these roles.
The patriarchy forces itself onto even cishet boys, which makes them emotionally stumped and obsessed with being “manly”, which is toxic. Girls are supposed to be quiet and feminine and passive. Non-binary people are not supposed to exist, or, if they do, be purely androgynous and nothing else.
It’s about the poison of enforced gender roles, not your own personal identity.
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Because force someone to be anything different ot what they are is wrong. Yes society try to do so Still being terrible wrong. I consider try to force your son or daughter or trans child to be different that what is their persona is rape . Another stuff is they aren’t heterosexual and they were forced to PRETEND to be tht way. then I have no problems. Both situations are different
Indeed. But I tackle this in the game itself. And beyond dumping the whole spoiler-filled plot synopsis on the thread, (which I’m rather wary of doing) all I can say is trust me, I know.
@Poison_Mara Yes. Forced relationships are bad. I tackle this subject in the game. I’m hitting it from a different angle than usual, but that delves really deep into spoiler territory. I find one of the character’s intentions absolutely, painfully, horrifying. I’m not sure if anyone else will, but I do.
There’s no rape.
There are themes of consent. I make it extremely clear what is and isn’t consensual.
Yeah that doesn’t happen. Not ever. The Fairy Godmother doesn’t force anyone to have sex. (They don’t even really have a concept of sex, apart from in regards to flowers and storks and bees.) They also cannot force anyone to fall in love. They cannot change anyone’s orientations. (They can’t even make any of the characters fall in love with them.)
They can magic people’s clothing to change it. So they can transform a dress into a tunic, or vice versa. This does not actually change a person’s gender even if the Fairy Godmother thinks it does, because their concept of gender revolves entirely around what people are wearing.
They can force marriages, but that’s done ‘legally’, and the participants can say “screw that” and not honour what you’ve done, claim it’s not legally binding and seek an annulment.
Yes yes. This. 
And if they’re not, in fairy tales, they’re ugly sisters, wicked stepmothers, witches, and evil. And all the mothers are dead.
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Laguz
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Not that correct! Many of these anti-female fairy tales come from the Grimm’s brothers collection, which while well known are not the original stories.
They hated women, original sin, all that cultist man mindset, and changed many antagonists in their stories to women.
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Ah well Then is not problem. But the synopsis looked worrisome. I trust in you fairy
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Yep! And they changed evil mothers into stepmothers if I remember rightly, and killed off the actual mothers.
The stepmother is a common villain in fairy tales. The stepmother has been a villain since the earliest known versions of the Cinderella tale. The competition between the two women for the husband/father’s affection provides a logical reason for the stepmother’s cruelty. However, the stepmother has often replaced mothers in other tales, such as Snow White, when the image of a cruel mother was considered to be too harsh and terrifying for young audiences. The image of the evil stepmother occurs frequently in fairy tales. She is associated with jealousy and cruelty (Olderr 1986). “In masculine psychology, the stepmother is a symbol of the unconscious in a destructive role” (von Franz 1970). The stepmother figure is actually two sided, in that while she has destructive intentions, her actions often lead the protagonist into situations that identify and strengthen his or her best qualities. Perhaps one of the enduring elements of the Cinderella story comes from the politics of a family, usually a blended family. While many fairy tales have outside antagonists, Cinderella’s trials are in her home and immediate family. http://www.surlalunefairytales.com/cinderella/notes.html#TWO
http://www.retrospectjournal.co.uk/latestarticles/2016/4/6/wicked-women-the-stepmother-as-a-figure-of-evil-in-the-grimms-fairy-tales
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Too much dialogue!
Too much talking!
Yeah and rather than writing the section I said I would, I’m writing a scene with the King and Queen, before they leave.
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Eiwynn
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Typical writer - always writing beautiful things, other then what is set forth …
I must do this every other time I start writing a scene
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Well Mara, I mostly like to think Kinsey was right and that most people are, or at least can be more flexible than they think they are and certainly more flexible then society tells them to be.
On the other hand didn’t @FairyGodfeather say that consent, or the lack of it was one of the darker themes this game is meant to explore?
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I believe nobody could be certain what they are because maybe you wil find a soul mate from the gender you are not expecting. however forced someone be what is not and recreate it like if where a child play is offensive and disturbing. I certainly will choose killing not brainwashed a homosexual to become hetero or the other way
Aha! You won’t think that when you actually see me writing. It’s very rough.
I need to get my act together and DO SOMETHING! Organise the stuff I’ve written perhaps. I’ve like 40 files filled with notes and random sections of scenes and backgrounds, and character info, and so much STUFF!
It’s so much more fun talking about doing things rather than actually doing them.
@Poison_Mara There shall be no killing! There will be stuff to discuss once I actually post the game, but probably best not to speculate until then.
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No killing bahhh Definitely is not a game for me no power no seduction and not assassinating political foes. And I don’t care people sex inclination to change it… Stil I love you Fairy just your games are in a different thematic to my favourites.
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Yes. I really don’t expect you to like my game. Or to even play it. It’s just not the sort of thing I’d expect you to enjoy.
It’s a game I’m writing primarily for myself. It’s tackling themes I’m interested in. I don’t like killing, so there’s no killing. It’s silly on the surface, with a few deep themes going on.
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Yep. Definitely more fun speaking about my game than actually writing it. Or writing snippets and bits of scenes rather than gluing them together. Or just scribbling notes down.
I’ve so much stuff written.
I know exactly what’s happening with the plot.
I’m procrastinating over actually getting something into a presentable state though.
I was going to try and force myself to write an hour a day. Or even 15 minutes.
Or even just do the code. It won’t take very long at all to arrange the scribbles into choice trees.
Which is what I should do. Then find somewhere to upload it all.
Edit:
Hrm! I now have too many choices, and they’re not all fun. I’m going to have to trim this list down drastically and find a way to make things work. Ugh! Need to find a way to make this work.
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