Same 
like i forgot that…
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Don’t know where you are getting your information, but Wayhaven is very popular. To the point that everytime the game release, the fans crash the Dashingon Servers 
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Question about ortega and herald: I agreed to help ortega with the hollow ground investigation but also to help train herald. Can I do both or does one take priority over the other?
Why do people think all the characters that supposed to be dead are actually alive??? Anathema… Hood… now Herald’s brother? xD
Although when it comes to Hood, theory that he’s alive seems to make sense.
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You can do both
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Because there is hints that suggest its not impossible? Sidestep died too and look whos here. And this adds to characters development and complexity to their backgrounds. I personally dont think anathema is alive. They did died before our eyes… and that was gruesome. Dont think farm\doctors\ets can reverse THAT.
Just keeping my mind open.
Just it would be weird if there were so many “resurrections” in one story?
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taking into account the fact that in one playthrough you will not be able to find out all the details, no, it’s not weird. An there is only two? At least for me.
And I don’t think anything can be weird in this game
For a moment I tried to entertain the idea, because I’m a simple potato and that could have been a nice plot point for Herald (who doesn’t have much going on atm), but it doesn’t make much sense?
Why would he become a villain? It can’t be out of resentment, seeing as the timeline of events leading to such a decision would have been super tight, since his family believes him dead. Not to mention, if he had help, why? Who would go through all that trouble for a stranger?
Hood’s theory, while still wild, is grounded on a nice handful of circumstantial evidence and it would explain some things. This one, even if somehow true, sound a little too based on shock value.
I admit that anything getting mentioned in-game at this point makes me suspicious, since they could be a subtle hint, but I’m not sold on this one… but hey weirder things have happened, so who knows. 
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Based on their conversation with Herald at the dinner\date, they didn’t have a good relationship with their parents. And all that connected him with them was his brother. There is many possible answers on a question “why?”. Why anyone?
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“Why would you do something like that?” You ask the tough questions because you really don’t understand. Risking life and sanity when you had nothing you could understand. That’s the story of most boosts, one last chance, nothing to lose. “You had a good life. Money. Family.” He could have been normal. Why is he a hero? Or, if he wanted to be one, why not take the safe route and get modded? Parental consent?
“Have you ever felt trapped?” The question is honest enough that it makes you laugh, startling him.
“I’m sorry.” You look away. There’s still nobody paying attention, at least not overtly. “It’s just…you weren’t trapped. The gates kept others out. Not you in.”
“You’re wrong.” No accusation, but a soft, forceful denial. “Just because you have money in the bank and a nice house doesn’t mean there were no bars on the windows. No skeletons in the closet.”
“Were they your skeletons?” Because now you’re wondering, how much is hiding under there? “Or were they your brother’s?”
“It doesn’t matter.” He looks down, not putting up walls but closing the door. He needs to learn to build walls if he wants to stay intact. A door can be opened far too easily. “There was an out. We took it.”
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“How did you end up here?” There are not many heroes back East, and they all tend to be government-approved or part of television shows, but he could have made a killing being either one.
“The same way everybody else did.” The food is finished now, so he picks up a piece of bread, picking at it. Breaking it into smaller pieces. “Because it was the only place where I felt I could be myself. Once I got out of the hospital, my family…” The memory is too close in his mind, staring at you, staring at him. Black accusations and disappointment.
“Did they disown you?” You shake your head, trying to get him out of your mind.
“I couldn’t stay.” He avoids the question, so the answer might be yes. “My brother had been the only thing keeping me there. So I went west. Where my heroes were.” His smile softens, and he looks at you, directly at you
If he survived, but burn injuries was severe and attempts to repair it did not give too good results, then he couldn’t be a hero people wanted to see in the media. So maybe he chose other path? Maybe he wasn’t even going to be criminal at first, but eventually he did? No wonder he wouldn’t let his “lucky, perfectly heroic” brother know he was alive.
Ok, ok, I agree there aren’t many clues pointing to Josh = Ember theory. Now I was just making things up 
Btw. didn’t the author say that RO who has something to do with Ember is Argent? They have a history or something. Lord and Lady, huh 
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I meant in the context of main character not game popularity, lemme ask you now, what do you know about the MC and backstory of Wayhaven compared to FH? They have a mom and a dad that’s gone thats it lol
It doesn’t feel personal, the game is weak on story and backstory but makes up for it strong romance. Its basically a CW drama where you have a harem of friends and solve cases that are forgettable as well.
For eg what do you know about Batman? Spiderman? Naruto? Goku? they all had backstories my G.
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Bruh Anathema got dissolved by her own powers which still makes me shudder thinking about it like damn…
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Yep that is some nasty stuff there. It still haunts step right now and no one wants to talk about it. Despite the weird theory’s about them being alive it’s impossible to survive acid that strong.
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Btw I still don’t fully understand what the “gates” are or represents, can anyone pls fill me in on this since I’m dumber than Ortega
Also does it make a massive impact on story or characters or just more nightmares maybe? thanks in advance fellow FH Fanboys
Also is it just me or is this game the only one with a friggin save feature each checkpoint like bruh all the other games don’t have that…
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We don’t know exactly what the gates represent, but my personal opinion is that they are essentially self instituted mental barriers that prevent the MC from getting too powerful. As each gate opens, barriers fall, the MC gets more powerful, but they also slowly go in sane.
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Oh wow thanks, does it affect dialogue or choices in anyway like being a killer or not?
You made it sound so boring 
I’ve been wanting to read Book 1 & 2 again (as preparation for book 3) but uuuhh 
I keep putting it off, I’m not in the mood for those supernatural dramas.
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but its true bruh x 
whenever I re-read Wayhaven 1-2 like
I’m surprised at the lame story and how nothing happens even worse you gotta pick the 5 romance options like an “alternate universe” that locks you in it aint organic. Even you’re putting it off bahahaha
The only cool thing that happened was Book 1 you get kidnapped, tortured and afterwards end in the hospital, by book 2 you’re fine and dandy with a scar and some very brief moments of flinching at Murphy’s name. He’s either arrested or gone lol
Book 2 nothing happened again even more, everyone got the magic corona virus and we broker a deal with some forgettable villains and we go to a carnival, the best moments are flirting with your ex and and ROs and watch fireworks at the end. Like zero consequence to your actions from the previous game on character or story or backstory.
Hopefully Book 3 is more exciting, like so many fillers and needless clicking, it hurts my hand because I need to play the game 5 times to see the romance in both games and there’s no save system bruh.
FH beats Wayhaven in everyway possible, even the romance has poly options that makes up for the genderlocked characters like Steel, Herald and Argent.
Hopefully the next FH game you can romance a villain that is bigger and stronger than you and get a harem ending, I wanna romance all the girls personally haha
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Well, I agree with all of this, but this isn’t thread about making fun of Wayhaven, so we better stop 
Btw. one thing came to mind about Herald. When he said his surname, he expected MC to recognize it… (I don’t remember exactly how it was worded) I wonder who his parents are and what they do. Are they famous or something?
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