England 1519, in the Court of Henry the VIII - Tudor Intrigue - Ready to begin testing?

Military - I’ve made some military options but they are at a pretty high level so you won’t be making tactical decisions with muskets, cavalry and artillery.

I love military history… but what is so powerful I think about the Tudor story is this is one of the few times in history romantic relationships made a direct impact in history. Most periods of history love is pretty irrelevant (or so indirect as to make a poor focus in a text adventure). So I want to play to the strength and quirks of that period of history.

I would love to do another story with a focus on military history… Going to start another thread on that.

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I got the warlord I achievement but a little vague what happened did we command man or advice commanders PS what is are family title?

I enjoyed the game.

I’m currently trying to convince the King to go Pro-France (for wine money) while being anti-Scotland and anti-Irish in hopes of getting a bigger estate for myself.

Really looking forward to seeing what the next update has.

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Regarding title. but after perusing the Wikipedia article… Earldom sounds right. Making Son the Earl… The Daughter would be a countess if her brother dies. I assume she will be a lady unless her brother dies or she marines.

After some digging, I think Earl of Rutland sounds right. Based upon the possibility of Edmund of House York, younger brother of Edward IV, survived long enough to have a child.

So Family tree goes…

Edward III…>Richard, Duke of York->Edmund, Earl of Rutland (1443-70)->[Son1465 - 1505]->[Protagonist and sibling, born around 1500]…

So a claim to the throne, but do to misfortune, it was never acted upon by their ancestors. Perhaps due to the machinations and cunning of both Richard III and Henry VII.

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I like it so its a what if they survived and you play as their grandchildren.

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Now one comes to English law of inheritance could you pass on to the sister and would she have a courtesy title?

Maybe you should have a little mini game intro where you play as the first Lord Edmund at 17 survived the chaos of War of the Roses.

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Inheritance laws aren’t cut and dry for peerages… Different than property in land. So it gives me historical-fiction liberty to make it any way I want. For the sake of this story the Earldom of Rutland can be inherited through the female line if there are no other male successors (as some have argued the Crown of England could at various points in history prior to Acts of Parliament settling the matter).

My Wiki-Research - The older the peerage, the more particular the inheritance laws are but newer peerages created late later into the renaissance era tended to enforce male primogeniture. Female (and sexual) emancipation it turns out wasn’t straightforward incremental progress but had some ups and downs prior to the late 19th century.

Application - I wasn’t planning on playing with this too much but now that I’ve researched it, it sounds fun *if (woman) and (sibling = “dead”) a patriarchal distant cousin ties to steel your rightful title to the earldom. Patriarcal distant cousins are classic villains in English literature so I like the motif.

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I’ll retcon it into the prologue!.. And then slow reveal the intervening family history throughout?

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it would be interesting if female MC or male MC’s sister becomes Marquess of Pembroke. that should be an achievement!

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So I’ve dug a little to try to figure out where The Earldom of Rutland would be located (interestingly it’s not the county of Rutland lol).

We are hemmed in by fellow Englishmen! Meaning the only path to expansion is either:

  1. Kill and replace the King!
  2. Be that guy, sharpen our knives and encourage King Henry viii’s paranoia so he kills a few nobles and opens up some land for us.
  3. Move the family home base to Scotland or Ireland and start a war (my personal preference)!
    -I plan to save up favors, conquer Dunkirk for Henry viii in Flanders and build up my financial resources so that during the 1534 Kildare FitzGeralds Irish rebellion I’ll hopefully manage to replace them (surely Henry viii will be overjoyed to make his best friend and professional Lord Deputy of Ireland).
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Just leaving it here

http://www.garrysgames.com/Henry.html

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Really like the look of this, the subject matter is right up my street. I wrote my dissertation on this period so it’s really cool feeling like I get to be involved in all the events I’ve read and written so much about. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.

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I’m really liking this game so far! Out of curiosity, how much will gender affect things, regarding the restrictions put upon women during that era?

From playing both genders they complement each other. Or they’re the opposite of their personalities. Free sample the male player cannot marry Henry the female does not start as the Earl. The female protagonist gets away with some eccentric things for example she can audit the universities. And she can give advice as a war advice but she would have to have certain stats pulled off First vs her brother. And the same time too she can be tried for witchcraft. Speaking up if we’re good Catholics can we become Saints? Or even Mystics as counter-reformation

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the differences are moderate… I push the historical plausibility limits for what a young noblewoman (that’s not from that rare class of independent widows) might be capable of doing.

A retcon explanation… you play as a capable, intelligent young man… or a VERY remarkable young woman. This allows me to streamline some of the political/trading/military ventures.

Sometimes I admit it is superficial… Example, I add a throwaway line about why the nobleman can learn at Oxford Cambridge. The romantic options are quite different. (The minor romantic interests are potentially bi-sexual)

There is a slight bias of the begging for providing the nobleman with “strength” and the noblewoman with “charm” which would reflect their upbringing. This will make it slightly easier for the nobleman to succeed in conflict and slightly easier for the noblewoman to succeed in persuasion/diplomacy.

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I’ll make a note to add a martydom option.

If you fail in the story, you might as well fail in a blaze of glory (pun intended).

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For example she will not be able to captain a Company but again she sleep with Henry.

Please tell me that some of them are girls :grin:

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Currently the only option right now is the Sister. Or would it be stretching all probability to have an affair with them as woman.