In my defense I’m actually pretty new to the forums. I didn’t have the option to plead on behalf of Hedo because I didn’t know CoG had an active community like this so I didn’t think to look for this thread.
It was only until a year later when I was like “whatever happened to CCH, I really liked that game” that I came back to the site and started lurking around in the forums.
But I was too late. My beloved Hedo was gone. WhymustIcryWhymustIcryWhymustIcry
Same here. Scrolling through the comments was a surprise. I didn’t think people hated Tress or the Hedonist so much that they’d actively try to find ways to kill them. To be fair, I haven’t gone the Hedonist route so I don’t know how deep the scumbaggery runs with him. Mostly cause I can’t bring myself to be mean.
Doing a replay to try to romance Stoic and get high loyalty for Booksmart. I’m going insane. The past few hours I’ve restarted the game over and over and over and over and OVER to keep my loyalty stat high- I haven’t even made it passed the party/Wyvern scene. There’s absolutely no winning here! It seems like every other choice I make takes a massive hit to my loyalty score, I’m talking -15%. Wtf is that about?
Spoilers just in case:
Namely if Tress is the leader during the team fight exercise and I have the choices of either: being a coward (hiding) or deferring to Tress (since she’s leader) I STILL take hits to my loyalty. How does that make sense? Letting the leader make the decision makes me selfish? Oh, and when Wyvern attacks the party if I decide to fight back instead of being kidnapped I get points off my loyalty. Why? There are two options when you go after him during the party. One said “I’m not gonna let him punk me out again” which took points away from my loyalty. I thought, hey, that makes sense because you’re trying to save face instead of protect your classmates, right? So I restart all over again and pick the other option which just says you fight back even without your gear. And guess what? I still lose loyalty points. W. T. F. 🙅Seriously, I go out of my way to build it up to the 70s and now I’m all the way down to 48 for no reason. Even when the reporter interviews us and I tell the truth + play it out like I attacked the bad guys I lose loyalty. I haven’t tried lying and saying we’re tracking Wyvern because it gets me a bad grade in media relations. But idk why some of these choices are made out to be selfish…
Team Fight: Loyalty get’s raised when you can properly instruct the team on what to do. I think in some areas, it’s more Leadership then Loyalty. You’re Loyal by trying to help your friends be the best they can be, since Tress is doing badly at that. I think you should go for the Tactics route for this playthrough, as it will give you the best options.
Wyvern at the Party: Loyalty is you deciding to protect everyone at the party and go with him willingly. Everything else is you being selfish and trying to show off and make yourself feel good.
Interview: Loyalty is talking to protect Crook. Yes tell the truth, but don’t say it was all his fault. And by saying that you beat up the bad buys, that’s you being selfish again by only thinking about your own image, thus losing loyalty.
Try that out and see where ya get. It worked for me.
As @Harroc said, that is the mention that Dirty Gril slept with Hedonist. It’s also heavily implied that Hedonist made that offer to raise their grade if they “pleasure him” to most of the students during one on one assesments. So it’s not like DG is anyone particulary special to him or that there was any relationship.
Another thing: it is said we can’t do two path because we’d end up as a master of none, but that’s a bit weird.
You’re going into Booksmart’s lab, so why not take the Power trigger and the data on the Dozen? Tactician is the only path in which the MC needs to study things, in the others they just get a boost. Why wouldn’t they combine them?
So here’s my solution: make the data, the armor and the power Schrodinger’s cats. Explanation:
In the Tactician path, Booksmart stored all data about the Dozen on a special computer. In the others, she keeps it in her head, making it impossible to get.
In the Dr. Stench path, you get the armor that your father made. In all others, he didn’t have time and didn’t build it.
In the Zenith path, you get latent superpowers. In the others, you are a normal person without any special abilities.
This way it avoid a logical plothole: if I infiltrate Savior to get the Dozen’s data, why wouldn’t I take the nanobots that can trigger my powers?
I’d say one can actually forgive/explain this under the idea of ‘being so focused on one thing that other options don’t occur to us’ (which can happen to the best tacticians, too) or simply 'it does occur to us, but we don’t see much of a need as we figure it’d get more in the way than anything.
Yeah he did say WOMBAT is an acronym. But in CCH1, when you first meet him, he tries to explain why the Wombat is such a great creature. Then later, he again tries to explain the Wombat decision. But he was interrupted both times.
I think (all joking about an adult short story aside) some people would like to see a bit of him facing his shortcomings from CCH1 and starting down a redemption path.
This seems to be the main point of criticism I see about him and I’d agree: There’s no, (pardon the choice of words) picking up the pieces that leads from what he did in CCH1 to how he’s now.
After completing my first playthrough with my main-main character, I will now comment:
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