Hell I’m with in favor of that!
since they all are scheminng us for their own will, and throwing if you don’t do what we say “you will be killed”.
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I highly doubt tht the gods are going to be happy abt granting us any degree of independency, but once the transfer has occured it doesn’t matter wht they want LMAO. I hope (even if you choose to aid Olympus in the war effort) tht @ the end-game, there’s an option to tell them all to fuck right off forever and leave you alone. I want to see the ‘No more interference in the lives of mortals!’ take too, where all the gods are like ‘well, wht are we supposed to do’ and the Bearer is like ‘your jobs’
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Hell, yes, not that they’ll ever let it happen, even in the real world those things take time to process all the paperwork. From the one such case I participated in about 2-3 months, so how long do we have until our 18th birthday in-game? It is also fairly expensive and requires parental or guardian permission to do it the easy way. Technically a minor over 14 could get their own attorney and try for emancipation over parental or guardian objection, but that would be guaranteed to take longer still.
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You know, I wonder abt the MC’S legal status given tht they’re a runaway. What abt aunt Alice? She must’ve had a day job, in order to pass off as a mortal for so long. Though something tells me ‘paperwork’ isn’t high on the list of her problems, and I’m certain if she wanted to swing back into living like a mortal she could do it with minimum effort. If the Bearer really wanted to, I’m certain you could force the gods to take care of tht for you, or explore your legal avenues yourself, but again, I doubt we’re going to be limited by things like processing times. Wht’s the use of being the Bearer if all dead/guidelines don’t immediately become malleable 
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Smth else tht’s been bothering me is, given that we know for a fact that Bearer and Athena moved a lot, did Henry just follow them everywhere? Wht happened?
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Gods are controlled by fas law. Ius law can’t have any affect to them. Beyond any human concept. Athena just could blind human minds to think she is one of them without have to work or anything. If a god wants something just grab them and has right to adopt any child who wants.
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oh dang i didn’t know this thread has been re-opened! i used to play this a lot before i made an account 
anyway, time to join the discussion!
who i trust and who my MC trusts are different. i honestly can’t trust any of the gods. they’re all in it for their goals and IMO most don’t even see MC as an individual – more like a tool / weapon actually. i can’t trust them all fully but if i had too choose, i am leaning slightly towards poseidon ( for being seemingly the most genuine ), aphrodite ( for at least having the gall to reveal stuff to us ), and maybe hades ( because sentimentality and he does seem to care towards MC more than a tool ). i’m on the fence when it comes to athena since she’s sketchy and isn’t the god of war and wisdom for nothing.
my main MC is kana ( name may change ). i’m kinda laughing since some of the discussions earlier said sth like the MC being a doormat. tbh kana is kinda like that. she’s always been cynical and mature for a child ( even before auntie “died” ). however, she’s also currently just so so lonely that she just goes along with most of what is happening. of course she’s still wary and curious of what’s going on but her thirst for familiarity and companionship would make her do [almost] anything just not to be alone / left behind again. and while she’s normally bright, just a good amount of emotional manipulation from the people she trusts would make her submissive. hades and athena are the only gods she’s trusting. ( because good ol’ uncle henry and auntie would never do her harm, right? right? ). of course she’s open to other options but so far, none of the other gods has shown themselves to be trustworthy enough for her. this MC is just the perfect pawn until she gets disillusioned tbh. otherwise, she’s a ticking time bomb.
she’s the goddess of wisdom and her accomplice is the god of wealth. i’m sure they came up with some magic to make money and make everything seem legal and normal 
i really hope we get that option! and hopefully, that option won’t pull off a ME3 ( where refusing to go along with the ““supreme ancient beings”” basically leads to complete annihilation of everything. ).
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To clarify; the timeline as is:
Athena is assigned as your guardian>Athena has an epiphany (or, a mental break)>Athena kidnaps you to raise as her own>Hades aids Athena and contrives the the ruse of your uncle>Hades is found out by the Olympians>Your first altercation with the hunters>Athena is captured by Hermes and taken back to Olympus>You run away.
Hades’ current rift represents him vs the pantheon and resides in them not trusting his judgement after the Athena debacle. Athena as is, is “grounded” by Zeus. Of course the Olympians have a guess as to why Hades refused to disclose you and Athena’s whereabouts; 1.) He’s your father. 2.) He and Athena are in cohorts. 3.) Athena put a spell on him.
So, no, no one on Olympus knew where you were besides Hades. No, Hades could not meet up with Athena after his capture. The same applies to Athena after her capture.
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If all that is true then how do Athena and Hades talk about the MC during the game? That’s when Athena asks him to meet up with her at some point.
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Thank you for the clarification, I felt we all were getting too vehement about this 
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…This always happens when I take a break from Children of the Gods; a topic end up exploding into a massive conversation. 
It’s always going come down to the experiences the Bearer has gone through while on the run (both the ones actually in the game and the ones we have created for them in our minds), their personalities, and how these two things have caused them to change into the person they are today. But that’s what makes all our Bearers interesting to hear about.
I’m going to use Damon as a reference to explain HIS particular reasons for harboring mixed feelings toward Hades (hopefully I explain this well enough).
That’s part of what created what had made the rift between Damon and Hades: too many misunderstandings, not enough answers, and the simple fact that Damon has become much more cynical and guarded due to the hardships he’s experienced. It’s true, Damon doesn’t know why Hades left…just like how Sage doesn’t know what exactly has happened to her brother or if the rumors about the Bearer being a killer are even true. But logic doesn’t stop Sage from having a deep resentment toward the Bearer (even if they didn’t truly kill him or were just trying to protect themselves), just like how not knowing the full story doesn’t make Damon feel any less angry about the lies and broken promises Hades made (even if it was unintentional on his part).
Heck, Damon wasn’t too keen about the fact that Hades seemed really evasive and vague about the answers given about his mother’s fate (in fact, the evasiveness makes Damon more than convinced Hades is telling him another lie to his face once again).
That’s going by the assumption that emotions operate on logic and rational reasoning. As nonchalant as Damon can be, he still has certain things in his life that trigger him into having a emotional response (or, more accurately, an emotional OUTBURST).
And honestly, after struggling to stay alive day-after-day, dealing with guilt of not being able to protect a loved one TWICE (his girlfriend and Athena), and having no one to turn too while he struggled with understanding what it meant to be a Demigod, Damon is BITTER and TIRED. He’s tired of lies and people who breathe out a promise and just as easily break it, and being hurt daily. And he uses his bitterness, nonchalance, and cockiness to guard himself from his hardships. No one should expect him to be able to let any of that go any time soon (though a few, rare, individuals are able to meet the Damon underneath the armored persona).
I’ve kinda went into detail about this before about Damon’s point of view toward that matter:
Damon looked up to his Uncle and was deeply attached to him to the point of seeing him as a father figure, so even though the man never revealed himself as his father, it didn’t change the fact that his disappearance hurt Damon emotionally as a child. Damon needs time; the reveal of Hades being his father not only opened up some old wounds, but created new ones as well. And as far as Damon is concerned, if Hades IS telling the truth about caring about him, then he will step back to give Damon that space he needs right now and not try to force the young Bearer to have any interactions with himself or his wife Persephone.
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My Nyx doesn’t trust anyone. Gods, mortal, demi-gods, it doesn’t matter she can’t trust people. Not after what she had been through.
She does loves Hades and Athena, but trust them, no. They are also very much on probation. One more lie, one more hurtful secret and it is proof to Nyx that they never loved her.
As for Hades, had he been her father insted of her uncle, she would have felt betrayed. If he was her father that meant that he lied to her. And for what? To keep a secret? Obviously that secret would be more important to Hades than Nyx then. Luckily enough Hades is not her father, so he is of the hook for now.
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All these feeling of betrayal and hate seems to have clouded one fact from all of your minds…they cared and raised you, does that means nothing to you? Sure, Hades broke his promise and Athena ‘disappeared’, but was any of that a decision on their part, or was it something forced upon them by their own situation and (let’s face it, probably) Zeus (and maybe Hera, that Goddess seems to have a personal vendetta against us)?
You can’t hold someone accountable for something beyond their control, that’s just plain stupidity.
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They are FORCED to raise you because you are a damn weapon. It is like say the slaver is a great person because gives food to their slaves to keep force them to work.
ZEUS FORCED ATHENA TO RAISE US IT WAS NOT HER DECISION . Then she think otherwise and stolen us
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I know right! Mad crazy with how many post’s have been added once you leave and come back. Y’all talk too much. 
I fully understand Damon’s emotional conflicts when it comes to Hades. What you’ve written sounds very sensible and realistic towards how a lot of people would react. While others will act differently.
It’s still also unreasonable because it’s not Hades fault. I just can’t be mad at him. It’s not that deep in my opinion.
Sage is just a crazy ass bitch. C’mon you can’t just go around physically harming people who you suspect may or may not have killed your brother. That goes beyond not thinking logically. All of our MC’s should be the one’s going on an emotional blind rage killing spree but we aren’t. We didn’t hunt down the people we suspected had taken Athena and kill them off one by one. That would be great if I could order her a straight jacket and invite her into a welcoming and cosy padded room.
A lot of people are either playing multiple character’s and choosing decisions they feel the character they’ve created would choose. I’m playing myself personality wise.
Is Damon mad at Athena as well? I can understand being mad at BOTH Hades and Athena, but choosing to be mad at one and not the other - not speaking in your case but other’s - is ridiculous and makes no sense. Athena did way more than Hades did as far as lies and not telling us information.
Yeah, I agree with this. Especially when it came to him speaking about our mommy dearest. I don’t believe he’s lying with his vague answer’s but there’s definitely not a lot of in depth information with what he told us. Sounded like he was giving us a riddle when it came to mommy dearest.
So I can understand how it could be perceived as such by some people. Especially if you’re already in your emotions being mad, sad, and frustrated.
See the thing is I’m able to control my emotions. To a certain extent. I’m the type to let them build up and then rage out. There’s people who are and aren’t like this. If you don’t think logically you’re just being reckless. A person should at least have a full understanding of the situation before flipping out and being mad.
This is a game though, so I suppose logic doesn’t fully apply depending on what type of game you’re trying to play. I don’t know, I’m just playing this how I would act in real life. Is Damon how you would act in real life? Or one of your other character’s?
Right and understandably so. We raised ourselves for three years on the street with dead eyed drones trying to kill us. So, I get that. My MC is still in survival mode and just getting by. My MC’s mindset is to assess the situation, protect himself, kill who tries to kill him, protect certain people he cares for, and the people who are beneficial for him. So basically living in the present not the past.
The most important part about the whole entire situation is not dying. Fuck reconciliating with anyone at the moment. I’m just speaking in general, not telling you what to do just to clarify.
Also, you did not just mention that 2 second girl/boyfriend. 
Barely even know that person is all I’m saying. I would’ve wanted to save my best friend if I were able to but there wasn’t an emotional connection in the first place.
Damon seems like he needs a chill pill with his emotions. Is he stressing to the max? If not I’d be surprised.
Where’s the throwing up emoji? I feel sick every time Persephone is even mentioned. Don’t nobody want to be friends with her. She’ll never be a replacement for my mother’s Athena and Priscilla. I still feel that Aeson calling her mother is disrespectful to his actual mother who birthed and raised him. I just want to see the drama at the family reunion BBQ, but otherwise I don’t care for her at all. Keep distance, thank you.
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Yupp! I bet it was Zeus’ bitch ass. He has a hold on all of them. Zeus would probably only let Hera make a decision if he agreed with it. She’s just mad we have some of her trifling husband’s attention. Or at least that’s my guess.
You are correct, but, Athena chose to hide you and raise you. Hades’ chose to have a presence in your lfe, he was not forced. And your no one’s property they make that very clear in fact, it is very clear that they are quite terrified of you as well
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They Choose that AND??? You are obviously obsessed with forced me to love them. Could you let me have my opinion about their motivations in my game.
You loved them fine in your game all are hippies that does all for their love to you. In my game isn’t that the case. I tried to say several times that I am talking about my opinion based upon text in my playthrough. .
It is not actually a discussion you are right or wrong. Because both of us are right. In your playthrough based in your choices and stats both probably loved you and are your side. In my based in my choices they are my enemy. That’s what make Cog great. BOTH OF US ARE RIGHT. WE TAILORED OUR OWN EXPERIENCE.
So please understand that nobody is trying to convince you or anything. I am trying to explain my view in my playthrough based upon my choices and my character. Never force my opinion into others.
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Sometimes love is just not enough. No matter their intentions the fact is that our MC ended up utterly alone, hunted, in the dark about a very nasty truth and reliant on only themselves. The one who paid the steepest price for their failures and lies is the MC.
Also how can you trust someone who has repealty lie to you and keeps secrets? They are accountable for all their secrets and all their lies. Athena chose to kidnap you, knowing it would set the gods on her. Hades chose to make that promise despite being smart enough to realise that he might now be capable of keeping it, likewisefor for some MCs he chose to keep the secret about his fatherhood. He might have had reasons, but for the MC it is just another turn in a familiar pattern.
As said, my MC loves them because she cannot just turn off her emotions, but she doesn’t trust them and she is not sure that they love her because of the way they acted.
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Too bad, the ‘caring for’ part is completely voluntarily, if I read the latest public version correctly…there never was a case of childhood abuse done to us by Athena or Hades, was it? Nor was there any indication that they hold any semblance of contemp toward us, is there?
So, yes, while the ‘raising part’ is (initially) forced, the ‘caring’ one isn’t.
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Kidnapping for their own purposes and not telling the child the truth about who they are, why they are living the way they are and ultimately abandoning them is their responsibility - is this truly “caring for” their involuntary ward, serving their self interest or maybe, they are attempting to raise you for their own self-interests?
At this point in time, Athena started having a conscious about “caring for you” but it can also be seen as a reverse Stockholm Syndrome and anything but “voluntary”. Her motives for kidnapping you were not because she “cared for you” … the only person to care for you in the tradition unconditional sense is your birth mom.
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