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You’re snickering and showing disdain for others … wow.
In my understanding of the public beta, the birth-mother is not dead. She had her babe ripped from her at birth, so she had no chance to do anything regarding the child. Except ensure her legacy would be received later on.
I wouldn’t be in Athena’s shoes. She should have handled the raising a lot different and been more honest sooner - in raising such a child, to hide any part of their legacy and heritage is wrong. There is no two ways about this. Just as Athena taught the child about “magic” - she could have taught the other things. As a goddess, herself, she would be in a unique position to back her words with displays of truth and Hades could have been supportive and assisting in such an upbringing.
Now imagine how much better the child’s life would have been if she would have done the right things to begin with. The child would have been better prepared to deal with such changes. Mentally, physically and perhaps magically, the child would be able to handle dealing with Athena’s disappearance, being “hunted” by Seekers and finding themselves in Olympus.
In other words, instead of being left out in the cold, Athena and Hades could have been preparing the child for the future but instead they ended up leaving the child to their own devises and to swim or sink on their own.
People seem to be possessive that their view is cannon and any deviation from that is a threat. If they question your view, just refer them to your original statement.
I know the question wasn’t directed at me, but I would like to answer.
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Honest answer, yes I would. I would not inform it in the tone you imply, but if I were in Athena’s shoes, I would reveal the demi-god thing + the essence thing once the MC power had revealed itself. At that point there it is harmful not to say what our power is, because it is part what our MC is and our MC needs to understand it to wield it properly both for their own, but also for others protections. (That being said I am not sure Athena knows that our magic comes from the essence.)
Once the hunters comes after us I would also needs to tell the child why it is. That includes the ugly part where I kidnapped the MC, because if something happens to me(which it did) the MC is completely alone and have no idea what is going on and why they are being hunted. If it where my child I would give the child every piece of knowlegde they needed to protect themselves from further harm and make informed choices. Besides this is not a secret which can be kept forever, by telling the child, I would also be around to ensure that the knowlegde got to the MC in the gentles way possible and answer any follow up questions.
As for Hades, his secrets are his to keep. But damn it if I would pressure him to reveal to the child if he was the father.
Athena knows that our magic comes to essence. She is the goddess of logic and knowledge. No other demigod ever has using anything similar to magic except the few essence heir from their god parent. So anything else is the essence power through our veins. Gods had similar experiences with their essence Zeus lighting, Poseidon earthquakes… is the essence part in them
But does she know what it means? Does she know that it hurts us when using it? Does she knows how it functionally differs from ordinary magic or source powers. What the consequences of using it is?
I am not entirely sure that she has tried to wrap her brain around it. I am not saying that it she hasn’t. I am just wondering if not Chronus is the only one with a full grasp of our situation. (Since he was the one setting it up.)
She is the knowledge goddess and has been studying the prophecy millennias. She make a difference to discover when you and Aeson where about to reborn before it happens to just interfere in the process. So I don’t know if she knows all about. But she taught us magic if you are a magician and has special books. So who knows what she knows
It is the studying the prophecy thing that makes me wonder what Athena actually knows and what she thinks she knows.
The thing about propechies are that there are always some interpretations that nobody tought about and it is often the ones who thinks they know best who end up most wrong.
Another thing about Greek prophecies are the self-fullfilling part. Which the gods really should be aware off. (Did they learn nothing from Oedipus?) By hunting the MC down and threating them like they do they run a very real risk of the MC being on Chronus side because the MC have come to hate the gods or feel that it is the only safe path. But then again, Fate is fate. Maybe part of them wants the MC to turn on the them, because that is how they understand the prophecy. (I am going to laugh if Aeson is the one who somehow ends up on Chronus side.)
As it is though. My MC is 80% ready to turn on them. Their enemies need only ask nicely.
They believe in fate, so it doesn’t matter what they do for them All will happen as it was meant to happen. There is no free will. That’s why it doesn’t matter if you are trained or not , what is in the prophecy will happen regardless their intervention.
True on the other hand birth mom, Priscilla was also a piece of work who seemingly abandoned the mc (and Saint) as quickly as she could. So she certainly isn’t going to win “mother of the year” either.
…Just some clues in the text.
…It doesn’t matter who cares about you, only what they can do for you.
Well in a way if someone cares about you, their going to do more for you in the best of your interest. Therefore for someone who doesn’t really care won’t try to work hard for your best interest with out a price. Which sometimes it is not true but in this CoG the people who supposedly have our “best interest” are really looking out for themselves.
Oh, I’m not saying that any of the reasons I listed are completely reasonable in any way; only that the things I put down are Damon’s personal reasons for his conflicting emotions toward Hades.
Even Damon knows that it isn’t completely fair blame Hades for something he doesn’t have a full understanding of and knows he can’t expect The God of the Underworld to know what kind of hardships Damon had to go through while alone. It is why Damon chooses to tell Hades he needs more time rather than just outright explodes at him right then and there with accusations.
Actually, he’s not mad at Athena; he’s just a bit wary of her. Athena has always been a part of his life, and while she has never always given him straight answers, Damon had also seen firsthand the amount of pressure she was under when it came to her secrets. He doesn’t trust her completely due to the situation with the Gods in general, but Damon does love her, and doesn’t really feel a sense of betrayal since Athena never made some type of promise to him before disappearing like Hades had and she did at least explain a reasoning for her disappearance (along with why she didn’t return).
Me? Acting like the cocky, flirtatious, smart-mouthed Damon? Not in the slightest; our personalities are nothing alike (though I can be a bit snarky when annoyed). . That said, I know all too well how family can be the people who break you the hardest (even if some may have had the best of intentions behind their actions) and how the most hopeful, sensitive people can sometimes succumb to the deepest despair when life seems to be adamant about breaking them.
Damon is simply one of the many Bearers I have been molding for the game and currently the only Bearer I have for Hades; I’m doing a Poseidon play-through first with Evander. Though I will do Damon’s route after to test out how pragmatic and cunning a Bearer can be, and if even then, they can still be somewhat portrayed as a good person (just one who does what they feel they must).
I love writing characters, but the making them too much like me isn’t what makes them interesting; it’s seeing characters with different personalities and experiences interacting. The closet Bearer who is shares a number of similarities is Echo (another Poseidon Bearer) and even they have traits that make them a different person from who I am.
Damon had been trying to keep constant control over his emotions for too many years; after being in the run for a while and getting a chance to meet some rather lively individuals, he learned that what he was doing it was not the healthiest thing in the long run (not to the extreme he was trying to do it). So he’s definitely able to be in control over his emotions, but he now he doesn’t always feel the need to rein in his emotions so much.
Also, he’s under a great deal of stress so his usual control over some emotions isn’t as strong as it usually is, as I will soon explain.
I was wondering if someone would catch onto that.
Yes; Damon is very stressed at the moment. He been spending a good number of years trying to find out what is going on with the Seekers (and also the nature of his powers), and ends up learning that not only is his guess about them being possessed right, but that Olympus is less convinced that he is just as much as a victim of the situation and more convinced that he is just a brutish murderer. He knows that the Gods aren’t telling him something, and is doing everything he can to find out what it is. He’s trying to find a way to protect a girl who wants him dead and gather evidence for the trial that someone can drag him into being subjected to at any moment. He has no one he can really turn to while in Olympus, so he is still facing a lot of problems on his own.
And just when he learns that he’s finally going to know who his dad is and is thinking ‘at least I can get this issue over and done with’, the man revealed is a man that he didn’t want to see step up as his blood father and ends up giving him vague responses that cause more questions than answers (that just made his stress flat-out SKYROCKET). Safe to say that Damon is QUITE stressed.
Being away from Olympus and having something to test his wits and strength on will likely help him vent his some of his current stress (I say some because he’s currently traveling with one source of his stress).
Maybe it is. But it’s also being human.
We’re flawed, sometimes even self-centered, and (even if some don’t like to admit it), we do not always respond to things rationally or with clear heads. When something hurt us, sometimes some don’t want to risk a chance of experiencing the same type of pain again and we guard ourselves against anything that seems likely to cause the same type of hurt. Is it unreasonable? Maybe. But to call it stupidity without knowing that person’s reasons for being that way is rather insensitive to their possible pain or whatever has caused them to be closed off from someone.
Also, that’s irrational aspect of any living being is what makes meeting others interesting and what makes a character easier to relate to and sympathize with: their flaws. Damon’s cynicism yet strong desire to protect others, Evander’s slight wariness to fully trust others yet determination to find a way to end conflicts without needless bloodshed, Echo’s clumsiness at expressing themselves yet that clear empathy they have for those in pain: it’s what makes me look forward to seeing how their actions will shape their paths (and what makes me curious about how others will play their Bearers).
Just as a thought, there’s a novel about basically an accident involving the anti-christ being mixed up at birth-and instead of being the doom of humankind and earth, he’s raised in a rural area with some friends he becomes close to.
He’s given the chance to end it all. To assume power-but he doesn’t. Not because he’s angelic, not because he’s demonic-but because he’s human.
Because he wants to be normal.
Because he wants to have fun.
Good Omens is a hilarious and fun book to read but it also has some surprsingly profound things to say, too.
I wonder about your counterpart. He’s popular. Yes. But he strikes me as someone who’s had these expectations to live by. For all his fame-what choices has he had?
Your childhood, you were given choices. You could join sports teams, choose an instrument, you could go get into trouble and be a normal kid.
Your counterpart never had that. He will never understand that.
THIS is the gift Athena gave you. THIS is the gift Hades gave you.
You were free. And nobody will ever take that from you.
Even in Laconia, you were presented with choices. Paris was only ever bound by fate, the turning of the wheel.
Your lifeforce predates that. Of all these waltzing figures, hateful, loving, fearful, jealous-all are bound by the spinning of the sisters three. Spinner, Weaver, Cutter.
In spite of the spinnings of fate-you can rise above it. Make the most of it.
Take this ramble as you will. I watch a lot of Revolutionary Girl Utena, I blame Ikuhara and J A Seazer for the weirdness.
EDIT: Spelling, can I do it?
IMO, my favourite thing abt the way your relationship with Athena has been structured in game, is the freedom it allows you. You can project anything you’d like (resentment, love, both!) and not have it take away frm anything or feel forced in game! It’s organic, and it feels authentic. It’s why I write abt it, because it’s literally my favourite relationship in the whole game (I mean, I know we’re very early in and haven’t had the time to become familiar with any of the characters just yet) but I know it’s going to stay that way. Feelings, and particularly in writing, shouldn’t feel ‘right’ or ‘wrong’ (barring a few obvious exceptions), characters can recognize when wht they’re feeling is irrational and choose to ignore it, or address it but it isn’t as though self-awareness automatically means feelings go away; they don’t. Resentment, in particular, lingers. Tht’s wht it is. Feelings are a response, not honest, dishonest, right, or wrong or bound by rationale, at all. They’re a reaction, and largely involuntary.
My pragmatic to the point of moral ambiguity MC, Nadira, who’s never, ever been the type to hold a grudge or sustain latent anger resents Athena and Hades; she just does, even though she knows tht there’s more to it than wht she’s been told. She also loves them, she can’t help tht, but it doesn’t mean she has to trust them. Feelings are also often contradictory, human beings aren’t consistent.
Certainly, you were given choices but you were never a normal kid. You’ve known tht you were a demigod since you were very young, and you knew (well, thought) tht it was the reason the hunters targeted you. You knew you weren’t a mortal. Also, I’d take ‘getting into trouble’ with a grain of salt as well. Athena was overprotective to the extent that you had tracking devices placed on you, and she wasn’t beyond disguising herself as a mortal to keep an eye on you either. You grew up sheltered, though how your MC felt abt that or reacted to it is completely up to you as well :~)
True, but it is implied that there are consequences;
"But the prophet has learned her lesson from past mistakes in her youth; she cannot, and will not interfere. "
"The god has only ever met the Great Prophet under extreme circumstances. After the horrendous events of the last decade, she now spends her free time locked in her room, or strolling the gardens, looking more like a flicker of beauty than a lethal weapon. Whether her isolation is to protest against the Council’s recent descision, or to repent for her sins, no one is sure. "
[details=Summary]She would expect nothing less than that from him. The god plasters a sympathetic smile on his face, the light illuminating his kind features.
“Are you well, Lady Prophet?” he asks.
The prophet regards him with cool indifference, her lashes casting shadows on her face. “As well as expected. I assume you’re here to rip my child from my arms and send her away with one of your fellow councilors? Athena, was it?”
The god grins despite her harsh words. “You describe it as a sin, my fair lady.”
“It is a sin, my divine.” she hisses in reply. “Take it,” she says, lifting the baby from her breast and toward the god. “Be quick with this. I’ve done my part, and I rather not drag this out.”
The god, with shaking hands, takes the baby from the prophet.[/details]
So she is not happy giving up her child at all, but she knows that there will be repercussions if she goes against the gods.
We can only hope @Rohie will offer some closure for our MCs and their real mom.
I would be more impressed if she wasn’t also quick to give up Saint who, as far as we know anyway, is a pretty boring “standard” demigod.
So still not “mother of the year”.
For my mc it is already closed, she’s a perfect stranger and he has no feelings, good or ill about her.
I just want could say Nope go away Women I give a shit about you so I prefer go to dentist than hear your lies
Lol tho I want to be that way to Zues or Poseidon. Hades and Athena are cool
I knew about the bug too btw, was just pointing out what happened in my playthrough