Jamie is a ungrateful. I was being a good guy my hole playthourg until the silverthornes came and I said we should put fighters in the woods he start complaing. When church came he let him in the group with out not letting me talk to him. Like he had me could have or asked my opinion of the man. Like I know you saved my life but I don’t care I just let random ass people in the group. Not only that he sends Woody to your house without knowing if you have enough supplies.
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Jaime is plainly a dominant bully. If you do all he says when he says it he is all sweet. But at the moment you do something he disapproves he is an ungrateful bastard that gives a shit command or voting. Is his way or nothing
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Just because we had relationship with him pre-apocalypse doesn’t mean we have to maintain that relationship post-apocalypse and given how our MC can have different approaches into what we need to do to survive, it isn’t always possible for us to maintain a positive relationship. Nor do we always want to because that isn’t how we envision our character acting or agreeing with Jamie’s strategy about how the group should survive.
We are aware of our part in the relationship as well as the fact that all of our relationships are dependent on our actions and we weren’t ignoring our contribution to the possible decline of our relationship. However, we still have the right to comment on how our MC is letting Jamie get away with behavior that they wouldn’t tolerate coming from someone else in the group and how strange their inaction is, given how we have built their personalities to be against such forms of rebellion.
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Honestly two ways I can see Jaime ending up in the apocalypse given enough time that has passed.
One, he gets himself somehow killed, by zombies or getting shot/stabbed/whatever by a human just because he had to go help someone.
Or two, the group starts losing people left and right, causing Jaime to become hardened and will do whatever it takes to protect his group of people that he cares for.
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Maybe you could write the things you wish to emphasize with bold letters? That way noone would misunderstand it for shouting. I admit it took for me too some time to get used to that you use capital letters in a different sense as many people on the internet do.
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I understand that but I was raised since a kid in the classical usage of capitals as Capital highlighting the most key features and showing particularly strongth emotions. The Internet can’t randomly assign meanings to practices that come from old Rome.
I swear that kids nowadays thinking News Highlights are SHOUTING at them lol
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I see your point too. Like I said it doesn’t bothers me anymore, just trying to offer some middle ground here.
Anyway back to the topic of Jaime. I don’t think I’m particularly fond of him being a preset best friend for the MC. Many times I feel like I have to be nice to him bc doing otherwise would be too sudden of a change considering his and MCs backstory.
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Yeah I I was also taught. My boss thought I was mad at him and insulting him so I alsmost got fired one time over a email. My teacher in English in highschool was confused why I did Captials instead of bold letters. i thought the only language that did this was portaguese
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I haven’t that problem as Mara because he was just this guy she uses to arrange her parole. Mara has never seen him other than he is useful …
In other origins I just skip text say he was my friend because almost none my characters would be friends Jaime.
@AgentJordaan123 I am Galician and French Portuguese Galician Spanish… are Latin based so we used classic capitals usage. Internet as Anglo-Saxon has assigned randomly other causing problems
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I think I remember hearing something like that I had a Spanish friend in the military. He said Hola De Donde son I didn’t understand Spanish at the time so I though thought he ment Olà,de onde voce è for all english speekers the means in English Hello,we’re are you from. But yeah just typing this was hard because of auto correct. But it would be cool if jim made a charcater speek Spanis or another language and you could not understand them unless you go to Google translate.
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Thank for the warning. I will remind myself so i don’t do that
So I am reading several manuals of guns in pew pew tactics dot com And I don’t think the game has enough explained how we have to maintain weapons and shouldn’t all gun powder get wet and stop working in the Storm? .
This has been an interest reading but dunno I don’t think is realistic we could make bullets on the go for certain weapons We certainly can for old rifles and shotguns but for modern cartridge bullets I am not so sure.
@JimD I really think that in the next volume if we are going to that Junkyard an option should be maybe read a gun manual . Savvy people who know guns could skip it However europeans like me who have never seen one could learn a lot from that. And like is voluntary nobody will suffer.
I will love see Kelly an Nephew answering a test about guns lol My bet is for Nephew
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Unless the humidity is a huge issue on its own I’d assume all supplies—guns included—would be underneath the tarp.
I’ve no clue if another survivor (probably Jaime or Rachel) bring tarp along with them to cover for MC’s potential lack, though 
I could also be entirely wrong because something in me says the supplies get wet after the first night on the hill and I just don’t remember 
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I haveno the text here but after replay, lots of times, In some of the flavour text say tents were flood and gun powder lost…
AlsoIn the practices someone has to jammed a gun or something due I read in guide is normal for begginers. Also I want to teach my nephew the RIGHT way put body and hands to shooting as i don’t want my nephew lost a finger or something. Guns are so complex I will never understand them
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I think that gun maintenance is tied to RW skill—when skilled MC with guns teaches the group about them, MC says that it isn’t about creating one-person armies out of the survivors, but about learning how to hold, use, and maintain guns. Since high-RW MC knows their way around guns, and has people such as Maddie to help out, I’m reasonably sure that MC/other ranged users can fix most issues relating to the guns (such as jamming).
A high-RW MC, simply because they know what is bad for weapons and what isn’t, would probably keep the guns in the tent /under a tarp until it is nice and dry out. Intelligence could also be a factor in it.
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But That should be indicated in the flavour text. Because I don’t know weapons and what they store them.
What if my character is stupid with 30 intel only and zero in weapons. I think for the next part details like that should be addressed even if only in a small flavour text. Because most of you understand weapons but people have never seen one needs small clues to understanding those details. Because I have no clue weapons i don’t know what to use what is that and i am lost in menus.
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@poison_mara - Pew Pew is not really the site I’d recommend to a complete newbie to guns… the language structure they use even just for the 4 Rules of Gun Safety is a bit… overblown with a heavy reliance on non-civilian lingo (and probably not ESL friendly either). Google “The Well Armed Woman”. Their site uses a lot more common sense language.
When it comes to gunpowder, there are multiple types, and the one most likely to sustain damage from water would be the least likely for them to have around camp.
Black powder is made of saltpeter, sulfur, and charcoal, and saltpeter is water soluble. If wet, the level of saltpeter in the gunpowder can change, affecting the potential potency of the black powder. That said, if you make your own black powder, water is used in the process (go figure) as a bonding agent for part of the process (like adding liquid to a cake mix). If you just throw the three ingredients in a can and shake it up, the saltpeter is heaviest and will sink to the bottom, so you’d have to constantly shake up the powder to keep it mixed. So water is added to make a “dough”, which is then sun-dried in a mold and then ground to a fine powder in a mortar.
That said, you can spread the black powder out in the sun and dry it (most hunting or prepper sites always insert a joke about “don’t dry it over the campfire”) and recover the powder. It’d be iffy since you don’t know how much degradation it may have experienced. The risk in using potentially damaged black powder (or black powder substitute) in a situation like a ZA would be if you ended up with a dud (aka squib load) is that you might not have time to stop and clear the gun, and you sure as heck don’t want to fire another round until you’ve cleared the gun. (Those are the situations where you hear of someone’s gun exploding, when the next round hits the jammed dud and kaboom).
You aren’t going to be finding true black powder lying around everywhere. Scavenging for gunpowder, you’re going to be mostly coming across smokeless powder, since true black powder is more of a specialty item - so much so that you can’t just walk into most local gun/ammo supply stores and buy it on an average American non-ZA day (you’d order it online). It’s classified as an explosive, which means a crap-ton more paperwork for a shop to stock it (I have a friend who owns a gun shop and her reply to people who ask for her to stock BP is a solid ‘hell no’). But the black powder substitutes (Pyrodex, Hodgdon Triple 7, etc) could be more commonly found (they’re classified as propellants).
If you want to know a bit more about reloading ammo, google “Hodgdon Reloading”. They’ve got a pretty good section for beginners and have a nice little video on the main page.
Most containers gunpowder of all types come in are pretty watertight (mostly plastic at that) - like this:
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None of the above applies to the actual ammo though (just the supplies to make more). I’ve known of those who’ve accidentally put ammo through the washing machine and then fired it later with no problem. It isn’t exposure to rainfall that’s the risk most of the time anyway, but full on submersion, like a flood. Submersion is a problem, because you can’t tell if water accessed the interior of the casing, something that would be unlikely in a rainfall situation.
Even civilian ammo is pretty durable, but military issued ammo would be near impossible to water damage (it’s specially sealed/lacquered since soldiers don’t get the day off due to rain). The game doesn’t really distinguish the sources of ammo, so that’s probably getting more technical than ZE:SH will ever get. I’d just consider it all high-quality and well-sealed from water damage, myself.
So that’s a really long-winded answer of “the ammo would be okay, as long as they don’t submerge it in water and leave it there.”
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My opinion about proper gun use and gunpowder going to waste bc of bad weather is that it’s fine the way it is. As I’m not a fan of micromanaging and I’m more focused on story and the way characters are written when it comes to these games I wouldn’t want it to be a thing that we would have to watch out for every little thing for realities sake. It’s kind of like asking for a game set in the mediavel era or in a fantasy world that a warrior MC would have to spend time on sharpening their sword, obviously they’d do weapons maintenence sometimes, but who would want to read about that?
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Wow thank you very much. That was really interesting. Here in Europe weapons are more uncommon so your text is really enlightning
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