I think the purpose of asking questions is to find out information about the group(like finding out what they do to children, or how they force people to be their beasts of burden) it’s not really a declaration of you pledging your allegiance to the Silverthorne’s, it’s more of a reconnaissance mission and you’re just trying to gather information on these stranger’s who are now in your camp. Not to mention not taking advantage of opportunities like this causes you to miss out on discovering background information like this.
If that were the case, than I doubt the majority of players would be making plans to kill them because they would have semi -heroic or redeeming qualities not to mention that Anti-heroes and villains are quite popular and people can or will route for them. Since none of the information we have so far lines up with that idea, they don’t seem to fit that idea at all. If anything they’re a lot more despised by the raiders in the original exodus because of what Keith has said about children being dead weight and the possibility of them using slave labor.
What’s your plan to do that if possible ?
I’d imagine one would still have to be morally bereft/flexible on some level, if they plan on maintaining the group’s raider lifestyle. Which is what I think @poison_mara wants to do. Once Keith is out of the way and isn’t insulting her by telling her to be a farmer.
You can only question him about Kelly if you’ve put points into Empathy, yeah. It lets you ask him if he’s interested in Kelly to which he responds with:
Keith tilts his head back slightly, and his hands go to his hips. His chest puffs out before he speaks. “I just met her, but it’s easy to see how hot she is. She’s a real sweetheart.”
However, I’m assuming you’re talking about what you can pick up on when they first arrive?
He’s staring at Kelly, and you can tell by the way he’s watching her that he might have an interest in the woman beyond what he’s letting on.
He definitely has a crush on her, for whatever reason. The disturbing bit about it is how he tenses up if you reveal to him that you’re currently in a relationship with her (presumably to get him to back off). He seems like the kind of character who’d pull a Tom and try to eliminate anyone who gets in the way between him and his goal. Unfortunately, Kelly has the potential to become that goal.
It doesn’t sound like Keith has everyone fully under his control. He seems genuinely surprised that someone killed Evan and Trisha (the previous occupants of the camp you can scout) since he gave explicit orders for them to be left alone. I’m pretty sure the Makarovs managed to worm their way into the Silverthorne Militia and that was their handiwork.
Oh yeah, for sure! I remember tensing up at hearing that the Silverthornes are aware of the location of the junkyard. Y’know, the junkyard we’re most likely about to setup as a base?
Yeah super creppy I mean I hate Kelly Jelly but I will never give her to him poor Jelly I mean that sounds beyond messed up.
My take is Keith is not the real boss and there is some sort of power struggle we could use
No one was inappropriately groped. Benton only made a comment that triggered Madison and Brodie to draw weapons. Brody then tells Benton not to talk to his sister like that.
I always really confused with what actually happens and what actually Benton did or wanted to do.
Because he said is not creep and she remembered her sister however Madie says he was a creep and pretend something from her. And due Silver obsession with Kelly and and the fact they have slaves I don’t know what Benton was really trying. As he is a sadistic creature obsessed with violence. As it shows if you battle with them.
I found the whole scene amazingly well written and confusing as happen in middle of a tense situation.
Edit @Lithophene@JimD I have a bug in a mara with a relationship with Rachel relationship doesn’t work as should has the smooch in car raiding doesn’t appear however I have the love scene in the guard duty when she kisses mara cheeck then Jaime Doesn’t recognize as Rachel as a gf of Mara It is very very weird.
It would be a quite interesting twist, if we would discover, that all Keith and his people do was pretending to be bad, to see if our group is^^
They might be a nice little group, living in a good place near, who can not afford a large group to join them. But recently discovered, that someone kills the little groups of people they have been inviting. And now they are afraid, that we might be the killers. And Keith ist just good in acting and persuasion, so we do not realize that. They test uns and try to keep us from attacking them, so they tell us the consequences would not be worth the risk.
I do not say, that it is that way, but it was a fun little construct, that amused me on my way home
You’re talking about getting Jaime’s opinion of your relationship with Rachel during the car ride to the Pharmacy, yeah? Yeah… It’s a new bug. You fix one, and then suddenly another sprouts up.
I’m talking to @JimD about it right now. I just discovered it last night. It seems to only be affecting players who romanced Rachel, Woody, or Bailey. Working on a fix.
Did you notice these things happening in Chapter 6 or in Chapter 7? The bug is affecting Chapter 7 only – Chapter 6 should be unaffected. If that’s where you noticed that it’s almost if you’re no longer romancing Rachel, then a fix is being drafted.
I can confirm even in stats Rachel is not gf also no further smooching after the duty scene.
IDEALISM AND HUMANITY ARE BROKEN Mara has
Robbing blind a family
Killing a snipper cold blood after fake being friends
Attacked unprovoked Keith and ransom Benton
Idealism 74 Humanity 40 when i started second part with all contrary
Why do I feel like trying to join the silverthornes would cause a civil war in your group? Kinda like Avengers Civil War. I guess if you have high persuasion and leadership and empathy and other social skills then it would be fine but I generally only have leadership and empathy as my skill.
This is a rather minor question but what will the currency be in ZESH? I know that at the convenience store, you pay with money or shoplift, but later into the apocalypse, will it become like fallout series where caps are used as currency? Or perhaps some other item?
Hell no !!! I knew and the second I found that out, I wasn’t looking forward to moving into Eli’s junkyard. That’s why I’m so adamant about moving to an isolated location( like Woody and Rachel have been suggesting) because I know that the communities are way to close to each other and I don’t want other people knowing where we live.
I couldn’t think of a more perfect time to unleash the power of Darth Tommy on them. I hope the slaughter will be glorious…
Well if you built the ground work for them to be a raider group, I imagine the fallout for that suggestion wouldn’t be as problematic because they already accepted the idea of following that lifestyle.
@iEch0 food, water and anything else that’s tradeable that can contribute to a person or group’s survival are the currency. Money means nothing now and only helps as fuel for a fire if nothing else. Basically the option to trade with Jude or the River Dogs tells us what the meaningful currency of the new world is. So pick that choice and you’ll find out what the currency is.
I think I would take the encounter with Jude as indicative for what trade will be like in ZESH. Currency isn’t completely gone, but you will need a ridiculous amount of it to get yourself anything (that and someone who still has some faith left in the society/the government), but really it will likely be back to a bartering system (and therefore, mostly likely, we’ll be dealing with what other groups have in high demand if we want anything particularly valuable from them).
The disturbing bit about it is how he tenses up if you reveal to him that you’re currently in a relationship with her (presumably to get him to back off). He seems like the kind of character who’d pull a Tom and try to eliminate anyone who gets in the way between him and his goal. Unfortunately, Kelly has the potential to become that goal.
He seems genuinely surprised that someone killed Evan and Trisha (the previous occupants of the camp you can scout) since he gave explicit orders for them to be left alone. 
