Depends on whether Haken survived the uprising in book 1.
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See that’s the thing, I started from different book 2 saves, but they both came from the same book 1 save. Pretty sure I didn’t choose two different safe cause I made them not that one long apart
Or maybe the ending of book 2 also influences it 
some variables are only obtainable in book 1 and 2.
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I might be mistaken as I can’t remember all the details by memory, but I think the origin story you’re mentioning doesn’t apply to all wolves.
The werewolves have recorded history of their tribes and culture before the implied genetic weaponization tinkering at WW2. So at the least, not all of them are unnatural science experiments.
It’s one of the reasons I hoped we got a clean explanation for the feral plague in book 3. If it really is the result of genetic tinkering of certain werewolf bloodlines, I think it makes the HSM as even bigger hypocrites without them even realizing it, as they are basically claiming to solve problems which humans invented in the first place. Going about it in the worst way possible, which is imposing even more violence onto the victims.
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I love this series so much, but man i forgot how much these choices stress me out
I’ve got a question though, how does one initiate the Winter fling?
I agree with this. I played both Dena and Jolon. I also romanced Kotori. He also shares their love scenes too. I was disappointed about that. I think Kotori has the only unique date at the rooftop. I haven’t initiated the threesome with Jolon and Inferi though.
I was able to forgive this because the main focus wasn’t romance and I did like everything else.
I love you guys, but this is just not true. Other than (I believe) one Kotori sex scene near the back end of the game, each sex scene, (especially in the early game) is hand crafted and different. Some of the pillow talk in the later intimate scene is the same because it’s used to drive the plot but that’s all i can really think of off the top of my head.
Look at the code for chapter 2. The sex scenes for Dena, Jolon, and Kotori are completely different.
I’m totally okay with criticism, but this particular comment really confuses me. I’m feeling so gaslit by these comments that I literally just spent half an hour in chapter two trying to find sentence fragments that were the same between those scenes and i found nothing. The sex is different, the lead ins are different (Dena surprises you half naked, Jolon lost track of time tracking conspiracies and you surprise him, and Kotori takes you up under the stars. For that matter, Bly brings you into the showers.)
What am i missing, here? Maybe the mechanics of the sex are a bit similar? There are only so many permutations of vanilla sex after all. Seriously though, look at the code if you can.
Also how is Dena not a bookworm? One of the first one-on-one scenes you get with them has them going on for 4 or 5 paragraphs about Maker’s library and her collection of philosophy texts.
Edit: I’m genuinely sorry if I’m coming off whiny here. I’ve taken much of the criticsm in this thread to heart: The plot beats being a bit too similar to Werewolves 2, the fact that you can’t really be the actual packleader, the desire to deal with normal humans who aren’t military or militia. I’ve written all those down right at the top of my outline for book 4. I’m good with criticism. It’s just that this is criticism i don’t understand.
Edit 2: As mentioned above, there are definitely reused sections in Kotori’s sex scene in chapter 8, but other than that, I can’t find anything. I’ll admit to that one, but the vast majority of the sex is individually crafted, like 90+% of it. And even then, most of Kotori’s dialog in that scene is unique to him. None of the other characters talk about wanting to help people who were born disabled like him once the fighting is over as post-sex pillow talk, for example. None of them spend an entire page talking about how Maker was able to fix his leg with the tools you stole. There are reams of unique dialog.
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I haven’t gotten to Blys. Was an update to fix F!MC for Bly bug or something.
Dena issue truthfully.
She tries to make me her girlfriend right out the door. (Usually I go with those already had a backstory togetherness.) This time its also Bly and Tiva with backstory built too. I needed time to check out the others personalities first. Dena felt like, have me or else. She’s cute. I do like her. Just, need to know Bly and Tiva before Dena triggers the no point of return with her. Seems to early in story with that trigger. Hence my second run I ended up with no one. As I was trying to figure out who was more appealing. Bly is via B2.
I did notice the sex scene of Dena felt little off. Almost felt like she was dealing with a M!MC than F!MC as well. “Into mouth” rather than “to mouth” segment. I let her control the scene if need to see. (Edit: Book 1 forgot to say where exactly)
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Um, just to clarify a bit more what I meant. All I wanted to say regarding repeated text is that, in my opinion, it feels off when different characters say the same lines when you reread the book and choose a different path.
For example, there’s a moment where you’re watching Drazen’s game, and a random character comes up behind you and says Drazen will win. Regardless of who approaches you, they say the exact same lines. This, in my stupid opinion, feels unrealistic and breaks immersion in the story.
What I mean is, Jolon could say something like, “Yes, Drazen will win. Can’t you see he’s pretending to lose?” because that would be logical—Jolon is a scout and skilled at reading others. And if he’s been training the protagonist, he could even add, “Looks like I haven’t taught you well enough.” Dena, on the other hand, might approach and ask, “What do you think? Who’s going to win?” because he might not know himself. Kotori could say something entirely different. They all have unique personalities and traits, so, in my stupid opinion, each of them should react and speak differently in various situations—especially during moments when the protagonist and their companion are having private conversations.
There are a lot of such moments in the book where this repetition happens. However, I didn’t mean to say that everything is the same. There are plenty of scenes where the characters behave exactly as they should. For instance, the dining hall moment where you flirt with Dena while eating—this plays out differently with Jolon. The author has put a lot of thought into certain details in the third book, and you notice and enjoy these moments as you read. For example, the scene where Inferi gives you the necklace and then comments on it if the protagonist is wearing it. —it’s such a thoughtful touch.
Of course I don’t want to teach the author how to write his book. I just said that, as a reader, it caught my eye and I didn’t like it. If the author doesn’t like a topic I started then I can delete my posts.
Your opinion is not stupid, and I’m sorry if I made you feel that way. That was not my intention at all.
My concern was more over the perception of the relationship scenes which I spent ungodly amount of time on (I estimate there is at least 4 times as much romance text in this book than there was in book 2, and I am only counting unique 1-off text, nothing shared.)
I was bothered by the suggestion that the sex and romantic scenes were all the same, which is just not true. Trust me, I spent weeks on those. I was exhausted.
I completely understand your point here and I’d like to explain why it is the way it is.
In Werewolves 2, a common reader complaint was that certain characters (most notably Jolon) never showed up, and that varied depending on chosen RO. What I set out to do in some portions of Werewolves 3 was to (in some scenes) try to add a character to the scene that the player had not been around recently (or their RO, depending on circumstances.) These are almost universally in portions where you’re not having close personal conversations and it’s to give the illusion that the characters are being cycled to see everyone so it doesn’t feel like a character is falling into the background.
I felt this was necessary to avoid the problem with Werewolves 2 where if a player didn’t romance a character they almost never saw some names pop up. I seem to have entered the realm of ‘damned if you do, damned if you don’t’ when it comes to my very large cast.
That said, I made absolutely sure that every character had many unique scenes that were only for them. Bly combat trains, Jolon does his Huntmaster stealth play, Kotori flies drones and hacks computers, Dena geeks out over Maker’s books and angsts over whether or not destroying Maker’s research is the right thing to do, Tiva deals with her addiction problems on multiple occasions and has anger problems, like when she points the gun at the feral elder, and Lapu is Lapu.
So I tried to balance individual character moments with allowing certain names to occasionally float to the surface in scenes where the specific character is less relevant than having a person to talk and push the MC on to the next scene, like the Drazen conversation you mentioned.
There are many of those type of variable character scenes where I did add variance, like near the end where you can choose to kill some HSM horribly and the character who’s with you can be one of many. In that case, Bly and Tiva will be totally okay with you killing, but Dena and Kotori will be squeamish. It really depends on the scene. There are sections where alternate dialog is used, but it really bloats word count and takes a large amount of time.
I’ll attempt to rein that style in and try to balance it with Werewolves 2 in the hopes that characters don’t disappear depending on choice.
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This to me is an example of story consistency and is a good thing.
I expect the story events to be the same in a specific setting and situation so that the characters involved would logically come to the same conclusions observing the same scene.
If the scene is a plot-impactful scene, where the events within are impacting the characters on a personal level, then sure, I expect a different discussion to happen.
But the scene you are giving as an example to me reads better in multiple play-throughs if it is consistent and provides unity amongst the cast.
ymmv.
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I was bothered by the suggestion that the sex and romantic scenes were all the same, which is just not true. Trust me, I spent weeks on those. I was exhausted.
I know they’re not the same, if I said something like that I only meant the dialog after the intimate scene or before it, hell I’m already confused myself…
In Werewolves 2, a common reader complaint was that certain characters (most notably Jolon) never showed up, and that varied depending on chosen RO. What I set out to do in some portions of Werewolves 3 was to (in some scenes) try to add a character to the scene that the player had not been around recently (or their RO, depending on circumstances.) These are almost universally in portions where you’re not having close personal conversations and it’s to give the illusion that the characters are being cycled to see everyone so it doesn’t feel like a character is falling into the background.
Okay, I see what you did. It was clever. But now people like me show up and complain about unnatural characters behavior)
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I can only agree that scenes can be the same, but if different characters behave like one and the same, albeit in rare moments, it doesn’t seem right to me.
I understand your critique and I’ll definitely keep it in mind while designing the next book. Thank you for taking the time to clarify 
Honestly, my post was mostly in response to Hazuki when I was talking about the sex scenes because they said that Jolon, Dena, and Kotori “shared their love scenes” and that “Kotori has the only unique date at the rooftop.” I was baffled by that because it’s simply untrue, so I felt compelled to discuss it.
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I have another question about this third part, is it normal that there are no intimate scenes with Jolon? Because when I wanted to set up intimate scenes in the story, it seemed like it would skip to the end of the moment as if I had set it up the opposite way, I restarted the same chapter and that happened to me three times. Is that so or is it a glitch?
Jolon, Dena, and Kotori “shared their love scenes”
You know - I really wish Jolon and Dena had shared sex scenes/bed with the main character in one, like Inferi did)
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No, it should not be happening. Are you absolutely sure you didn’t accidentally set it to ‘fade to black’ by accident? This is the first time I’m hearing about this issue.
I’ve considered that, but mainly held back because of Dena’s gender flipping. It would make the scene much more complex accounting for all the variables.
The Jolon/MC/Bly threesome in W2 was easier to write because they’re static genders.
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It would make the scene much more complex accounting for all the variables.
Damn, that’s sad, well maybe Kotori will squeeze in between the main character and Jolon some night in book four 
Hehe, and I was the one who was talking about the characters’ unnatural behavior)
Jolon/MC/Bly threesome in W2
Oh how could I have missed this, seems like I’ll have to go back and reread it sometime.
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Will you be considering changing Dena’s word from into as to then? It fixes that regardless of whom she’s with. I don’t recall much other than that in the scene that bothered me. B1. Since was told your fixing Bly bug currently?