As someone who still has the first twelve Lone Wolf gaming books, I’ll have to admit that the Dever hall reference just ‘whushed’ over my head! I wasn’t expecting a Lone Wolf reference in an American text game.
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Ahh. I was wondering why there wasn’t a save game facility at the end of Book 2, when I played it in 2020. For this current book, I was trying to get the system to load my saved playthroughs from Book 1, but none of them seem to work! I was first hoping to start from the playthrough when my MC freed Taylor and fled the camp with her, at that end of Book 2. But no luck there…
Anyway, I’ve done one full playthrough of the free content of Book 3. Okay, so far - but some of the references (or whatever you call them) had my RO Jolon referred to as ‘she’ (I sometimes play as male, and sometimes female). That was weird. But I am awaiting the opportunity for the MC to meet the Werewolf Rights now characters in person again. I wonder if Anna actively wants to become a werewolf - and if the MC can help with that. Also, without reading the pay for content of Book 3, I am hoping that there’s a sufficient development in the overall story thrust. There does seems to be a lingering escape/capture/flee again narrative hanging around - and the wolves need to a bit more in charge of their own destinies.
Thanks for your work, GreekWinter! As an aside, did you get to read my Parliament of Knives fanfiction? You seemed to show interest, after you gave your permission to me to write it, as I recall.
I been thinking more and more that the feral plague was literally Maker’s doing and the leverage she had over the course of book 2/3 for her being a good asset was just her fixing problems she herself started and buying herself time to perfect her own forced evolutionary virus— I mean gas/injection, and we’ll find more about it in Albany.
In my playthrough I don’t see Sonoma and Maker alive by the end, William in the other hand, survives, though he sees the goodness in the werewolves I hope I can convince him to stand down and be family as he has become more and more stable, comparing to who he was in book 1 and I don’t know if that was entirely intended.
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‘I been thinking more and more that the feral plague was literally Maker’s doing and the leverage she had over the course of book 2/3 for her being a good asset was just her fixing problems she herself started’
That had been my suspicion, too. It is possible for the MC to spy her lurking around, close by, when one of the feral outbreaks occurs in the camp, in Book 2. But for the most part, the pack is lumbered with Maker (from what I’ve seen so far of Book 3). Because of Sonoma’s judgement.
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No you have to not have taken the gas canister from her though it looks like there might be a way around it if you hand it over to the Elders since the check with Sonoma (which happens after visiting Maker) happens after it
#I hand the canister over to the elders.
*set circle_rep %+5
*set rebellion_rep %-5
*set ch7_canister_custody “elders”
*set ch6_i_have_canister false
*if ((sonoma > 39) and (ch6_i_have_canister = false))
You would still need to have work very hard rising Sonoma relationship stat since taking the canister lowers it quite a bit along with telling others about it which you need to do in order to hand it over
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Gotcha. And thank you. Looks like it’s time to start a new playthroughs.
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I forgot about the feral plague. Since Williams killed Maker in my playthrough. Maybe Rivera might have something in Book 4.
Forgot to ask something about Maker:
MC noticed that she started wearing perfume, that hinting at something or does it happen on every playthrough?
Can I just have a moment to point out something I find mildly humorous?
A lot of ROs are very enthusiastic with a male MC. As in, telling MMC to finish inside them and everything.
Yet, only with Winter does MC have the sudden revelation “oh shit, sex makes babies!” and have a pull out option.
Nice memory right there, pal.
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If anyone wants to join me on Reddit, I’m doing an AMA in the COG subreddit at 7 pm EST, Monday the 18th 
: Reddit AMA with Jeffrey Dean
If you’re in a relationship already, Winter will ask you in book 3 if you’re interested in having kids with your RO (if it’s a heterosexual relationship where kids are possible.) The player’s answer to that question sets a flag variable that will make it possible for the MC or their RO to get pregnant in book 4. I wanted to subtly gauge the player’s individual interest in the topic so that introducing it in book 4 would only happen to players who had explicitly expressed interest. I don’t want to surprise readers with an unwanted pregnancy, but I’ve also had several requests to include it so that’s how I decided to introduce the topic
From the MC’s pov, the panic is mostly because the MC doesn’t really know Winter well at all. So the MC may be down to fuck, but if you hooked up with a girl one time and suddenly she started talking about wanting you to get her pregnant, you might have an ‘oh shit, I don’t even know you!’ moment too, lol
Onyx (and a male-bodied Inferi, if you choose to have her male bodied VS female) are the male flings in Werewolves 3. Female MCs can take part in any that they want, though, aside from Winter’s fling. It doesn’t have to be with a male character.
Which threesome did you get? You can get one with Inferi and either Jolon or Tiva, or you can get a threesome with Inferi and Augury.
All of those are available to all genders of MC.
If Maker survives book 3 and you’re all-in with her, things will happen in book 4. But they might be weirder than you expect, lol.
This is exactly the kind of reaction I was hoping for! Tension and wondering if you can do what you have to do, followed by, ‘oh shit, did I do the right thing?!’
All of that is currently in my outline of book 4. Especially now that I’ve read and took to heart some people’s criticism that book 3 felt a bit too similar to the second one.
This was an unfortunate glitch that I’ve since patched. It only happened when you use the character builder to create a new MC in Werewolves 3 because it forgot to set the new RO’s pronouns from the default female to Jolon’s male. Very embarrassing, but it should be fixed in the latest version of the game.
I read several fanfics over on AO3, but it was a while ago and I’m having trouble remembering which one is yours. Feel free to drop a link to help refresh my memory!
That’s when you go to the lab with her in the second half of the game, right? It’s meant as a hint, depending on certain choices that might not always come into play.
Stop looking at my notes!! 
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hey @GreekWinter I made a Reddit account something I never considered I would do in this lifetime to ask a few questionsI love your work and was wondering about this post on the choice of games forum which I am quoting what you are saying (this quote relating to question one)
"If you’re in a relationship already, Winter will ask you in book 3 if you’re interested in having kids with your RO (if it’s a heterosexual relationship where kids are possible.) The player’s answer to that question sets a flag variable that will make it possible for the MC or their RO to get pregnant in book 4. "
So if I romanced Bly and Tiva or Dena and Tiva can the pregnancy apply to both of them when going to book 4?(plz make it a thing)
2. will Williams if he is making an appearance in book 4 be in opposition to an MC who is not on his route or not following his ideology?
- in the first book I liked the Pack Leader status shined through and showed how leadership is and can be challenged am I to assume in book 4 will an MC get it back or have actual leadership status among the pack and not act as a second in command?
I would be eternally grateful if anyone could post these questions on the Reddit - Dive into anything that the author is having I am unable to due to having low karma and post not appearing on the list of questions being asked
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I know what you mean. I just can’t help but find it mildly funny. (Much less funny in MC’s shoes, tbf)
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Me: ‘As an aside, did you get to read my Parliament of Knives fanfiction?’
You: ‘I read several fanfics over on AO3, but it was a while ago and I’m having trouble remembering which one is yours. Feel free to drop a link to help refresh my memory!’
Not AO3, it’s on the Fanfiction website! Here’s the link:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/14185767/1/Parliament-Of-Knives-Lucca-s-Story
Unfortunately, despite a few people looking at it, nobody reviewed. Please let me know what you think of it (guests to the FF.net website can still review on there).
Thanks,
DenaFan
I posted all the questions on reddit for you. I also kinda piggybacked on your pregnant question too lol
I didn’t know that Inferi could be male or female. In my first playthrough with Jolon as my lover Inferi came up as female. Or is that supposed to be the case if you’re in a relationship with someone. In my second playthrough I decided to restart Book 2 again with Kotori. Iirc Inferi was also femal me there too…
I just realized if I reach that scene I could ask Inferi to change their body…
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Inferi is always a woman, but if you get into an intimate scene with her, you (as the player) can choose whether she’s a cis woman (with a vagina) or a trans woman (with a penis). She doesn’t change her body based on the character’s request.
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I honestly think that it looks much similar to the 1st book with traits of the 2nd, perhaps the reversed, but somehow it has like… less secrets?
Living in a place where time is ticking down to be raided by a military force, kicked out into the outside and into a facility, ending up in a standup where you have your pack cornered.
The main difference to me is that theres the feral plague, to me, reading book 3, it has been expanded and I am not sure if its an option created mainly because we as the reader know or the main character has become more self aware, you can call out thrice Maker is not a werewolf and characters acknowledge she is indeed not a werewolf, its not that farfetched to assume they or some bet she is the one that made the feral plague-- and I really refuse to believe they are that much of a goof not to, honestly I am surprised there isn’t an achivement to call that out if investigating Maker since Book 2-- or is there?
I’ll elaborate on secrets, there was Lapu being teased as alive in the camp- that being very rare(?) to come accross in a playthrough, seeing Maker doing suspicious stuff, participating in Sonoma bullshitery, and many achivements that have to do with specific occurences. I still have to go and play some other playthroughs but so far there hasn’t been anything that hit that spot? There was the origin of werewolves but then you don’t quite get to expand on it with Ahote, wish I had more to elaborate on it but so far that’s what I got.
I wish too, Jeff, that we had more time to wind down at Anna’s place, there’s so little time to actually engage with good willed humans. I am also much of a pacifist and pro werewolves-human in my run but there’s some truth to what Sonoma has to say when it comes to Anna (all that negative shit that gets Ahote pissed off), and that having another character whose positive view is less… alienated would really make things more enjoyable, because it has been 3 books where Anna’s been called off for being naive or just too good to be true and there hasn’t been anything going agaisnt that notion and it makes me deeply concerned when that pays off (and I really don’t want that lol), having Justin or any pro werewolf human could really add to the activists in book 3/4, because to me it felt she was the solely supporter when she really isn’t. And honestly if it’s someone that isn’t from Anna’s activists group that will be a bigger plus, they’d be an outside perpective that would be refreshing, someone that isn’t as rightous as the extremes of Ahote/Haken Williams or Anna/Sonoma
Alsoooo I do love the scene in the end of Book 1 if you get Anna ending, why do werewolves sound so silly dialogue still makes me wanna see more of lighthearted human x transformed-werewolf interactions, goofing around with a werewolf pls pls lol.
I am hoping with the HSM disbanded that we get to have more time to ourselves next book and have what I said up there wink wink.
Something that I did realize is that everything seems to lead to the same end, differently from the other books where everything split off in different directions, it might be because the location is the same but the outcome changes vastely BECAUSE of the death of the characters, kinda asking a lot to have everyone split off again but thats a feeling I got from this book.
I guess so far that’s are my thoughts.
ps: how dare you kill Wilu… hoping that mc is an unreliable narrator…
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I wish too, Jeff, that we had more time to wind down at Anna’s place, there’s so little time to actually engage with good willed humans. I am also much of a pacifist and pro werewolves-human in my run but there’s some truth to what Sonoma has to say when it comes to Anna (all that negative shit that gets Ahote pissed off), and that having another character whose positive view is less… alienated would really make things more enjoyable, because it has been 3 books where Anna’s been called off for being naive or just too good to be true
From a narrative stance, I think that’s exactly why she was present when the government bombed The Nail off the map at the end of Book 3. That near-death experience seriously shook her to the core, and that was the first time in the entire story that I got the sense Anna finally understood what was really at stake.
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Have you find out what triggers the scene? I can’t get it
Not really no, Greek still has to answer that rip lol
Even then I am wishing to have another character that isn’t Anna to have an outside perspective that isn’t totally positive in its outcome but it isn’t totally extremist in its result, we already have both of them and it feels silly not to have a grounded character, hmm? I might be wrong but it feels like that is missing to me.
Don’t worry, I’m trying to get to everything! I have so many irons in the fire right now that I’m losing track, but I’m trying to make sure I answer everyone’s questions while also patching out bug reports.
I can get more detailed later if necessary, but it’s essentially this: You must be on Sonoma’s path through Werewolves 2 which will lead to her taking you into confidence in book 3. If you do NOT sleep with her in book 2, she will dismiss you from her office in the Nail after confessing her desire to assassinate Maker. When you lave, you’ll run into Onyx. He admits they’re having issues and you can talk him through it and it can lead to sleeping with him.
Oooooh, I remember that one! I’ll give it another read when I have the time and leave a review! It might take a little while, though, I’ve been crazy busy with this release and some business at home. I work at a Canada Post distribution centre and it’s on strike right now, so life has been hectic even aside from the Werewolves 3 release.
Thank you for explaining that better than I could have! I’d always intended for Inferi’s (physical sex? I get confused sometimes about the terminology…) to be ambiguous from day one. There’s even a scene in Werewolves 2 where Augury jokes ‘Her cock is huge!’ which led to much speculation back in the day. Is she joking? Isn’t she?
But when I got to actually needing to describe the sex scene, I found myself at an impasse. So I decided ‘Hell, this is a choice game, why not allow the player to determine that aspect of her character?’
A lot of this simply comes down to that fact that I ran out of time. Werewolves 3 is already twice as long as I intended (almost twice the size of Werewolves 2) and it was way overdue. When writing these games it usually comes down to 'I want to add this, and this, and this, and this… and eventually you drive yourself mad trying to stuff it all in there. I doubt folks would have wanted to wait another year after already waiting 4.
The werewolf origins you mentioned will be gone into in far more detail in the next game, since you’ll be directly interacting with the government and military.
Also, Sonoma was absolutely aware of Maker’s bullshittery. She wanted to use Maker for as long as she could because Sonoma was incapable of seeing her goal of transforming humans through on her own. If you have her confidence in werewolves 3, she all but admits that she knows Maker’s lying and fucking with her, which is why Sonoma conspires with the MC to kill her off, but the plan hits a snag when the HSM invade.
I learned my lesson from Werewolves 2–do not have 4-5 vastly different endings in completely different places with completely different people. It was an absolute nightmare to get all those branches back together again in a way that didn’t feel like it was completely on rails. Werewolves 3 always ends in the same place with some minor variance (did you recruit Major Riggs, the black ops undercover werewolf? He doesn’t show up in-game, but Anna will tell you about the base he’s set up for you 20 miles rom the Nail)
Having different characters die/survive is the main differing end states, filling in for the different places, as I think you were pointing out above.
This. 
After reading this thread and a few others elsewhere, I’ve already added a new character and a few scenes to my notes for Werewolves 4. You are being heard 
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