Slammed! (Spoilers)

I have played this so many times now and it’s quickly establishing as one of my favorite games. I really like Ecstasy romance path, it’s compelling and it feels genuine. What I feel and wanted was a scene were we see how the main character proposes to Ecstacy. Or to choose how you propose to her. At least that’s my opinion.

To romance Rio, do you have to focus on kayfabe or can you be yourself?

Oh! I had a question about Ecstasy. If you ask Ecstasy to wait and they decide they won’t wait too long. Where does Ecstasy find the time to meet someone and get engaged while dealing with their dying second father? Was it one of those whirlwind having met for five minutes celebrity relationships?

@Peeehh I like the idea of leaving the proposal as that moment of hope at the end, without it being detailed out in the specifics of how it happens. Leave it to the imagination of what sort of grand extravagant gesture (or not) goes into the proposal.

See, my wrestler would think the most romantic way to propose would involve a very high building and a zipline and plummetting down to where Ecstasy is and then offering the ring. Or something in a wrestling match. Or both. Probably both.

Whereas I’m sure other people might want the usual dinner, a diamond ring, that sort of thing.

I am sad that we didn’t get an epilogue scene with the JJ romance :I

@Ninjasplaycardgames2 You do, but only if you choose to go home instead of taking a job after that first betrayal. If you choose that you’ll get an epilogue with JJ. And if you say to Colton you miss your friendship with Griss most, you’ll get an epilogue with both JJ and Griss and your family.

a couple of questions if i may:

1- how do i exactly beat solitary? i tried twice and failed miserably @_@ so i want to be sure for my next playthrough

2- how do i exactly get the jj epilogue? i mean is what you mentioned [ @ fairygodfeather] the only things i need to keep in mind or are there other decisions i need to choose that will affect this as well?

3- i got the game on my iphone but erm, if i want to use the version available on the website is it the fullgame or only a demo? =X [i’m rather new to the site so pardon these noobish questions]

nevermind no.3 figured it out @_@ silly me

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@soran

In order to get the JJ Epilogue you need to

  1. Choose the option to go home after the tag team betrayal. Don’t continue wrestling as Cross, or take any other career. Go home.

  2. Have no other relationship. All other relationships take priority over the home ending scene.

  3. Defeat JJ. If you don’t beat JJ then you won’t get the scene with him.

  4. You need to have a high enough relationship stat with him. Having the high relationship stat isn’t too difficult though, as long as you pick answers that focus on how much you want to fight him, but also that he’s your friend, then it’s fairly easy.

  5. If you want the relationship end you need to also ask him why he framed you. You then need to choose the “all I wanted is you” option.

There’s a number of different home endings, depending on some variables. The best one, in my eyes, is if you also make amends with Griss, which I think is only hit if you tell Colton that you miss Griss, but that’s not actually needed. As long as you finish with JJ either as your friend, or after kissing him, and have chosen the home option, you should get the epilogue.

There was one thing that I found really annoying during the Near Fall Academy chapter. There was a contestant named Cael… MY character was named Cael!! LOL!! What are the odds of having my character and another character named the same exact name?! I’m just glad that “Impostor Cael” didn’t have that big a part since he got eliminated rather early!

  1. I beat solitary by joining a fed as Cross anyway. I think the trigger is winning the scaffolds match and listening to Super Horns for the leg injury info.

But that’s just my playthrough.

@Fairygodfeather

Thank you so much, time to speed replay the whole thing for the 6th time so I can see some more content :smiley:

AWAY!

Realized I missed responding to a couple of things :slight_smile:

@Nocturnal_Stillness Did you get to play though the Face path where you bring up your past with JJ in the Chapter 10 promo? I tried to provide that sort of catharsis in that route.

@VampLena I can see where you’re coming from, but for me, allowing the player to have both the “dream match” with JJ, as well as a championship match, would be undermining what I felt was the hardest choice in the game. Glory or closure? The best, or your best friend? Your original dream, or your new obsession? It was intentional decision to ensure the player can’t have his/her cake and eat it too.

That being said, if you fight JJ, the champion is Prototype… and can there be any real doubt that, if you can beat JJ, you can beat him? :slight_smile: I didn’t see the need to write it in, but I’m fairly sure you get the championship eventually, anyway – but when you choose to fight JJ, you choose, in my mind, to make your story about JJ, and not about the title, so that’s why the story ends when the fight with JJ ends (or a bit after).

@Galador Oh no! My biggest naming fear :frowning: I don’t see any feasible way around it, sadly. Good thing you didn’t name your wrestler Paul Protoype. or worse, JJ Havoc :stuck_out_tongue:

@soranre: how to beat Solitary, @RVallant has the right of it - go for the good leg, because the bad one is totally numb and won’t feel pain. The trick to lasting long enough for Solitary’s leg to give way is to always be aggressive, no matter how much damage you seem to be taking. You don’t need to have listened to Super Horns to beat Solitary, but you do need to have done so to have all possible victory options available to you.

@Ninjasplaycardgames2 Oh, just don’t forget there’s a bug in the route of a homosexual male Kayfabe Face, so don’t go that route if you want the JJ romance.

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Crap I’ve been through my 3rd ending and everytime i mess something up. Is there any way to fight JJ and take the Championship and romance JJ as male? I’ve tried the play heel and be nasty to JJ in my first playthrough and romance option was active but he said somethig like it takes 2 to dance whatever. As second playthrough I’ve been really nice to him always taking the friendly choices but romance option was locked :S what is the perfect ending?

@Umrahel The real face path is currently bugged for male characters if you want that JJ romance. You’ll need to take the kayfabe face path or the kayfabe heel path or wait until the bug gets fixed.

The two to dance comment means you didn’t get a high enough relationship stat with him. You probably lost points somewhere.

The kayfabe heel path sets your relationship stat to JJ right down to 4, which means it’s a little trickier to get the JJ romance ending on it, but it does also mean that any interactions before that scene don’t matter statwise.

You need a relationship stat of 14 to be able to romance him. There’s easily 10 points you can pick up on, even if you take the hit to your relationship by doing the heel path.

The important point in chapter 11, before the fight is you should follow JJ to confront Alex. There’s a few boosts to your relationship that can be picked up there. They’re fairly logical choices to make.

The largest boost to your relationship stat though is if you choose the “Eliminate myself. It’s the only way to save JJ” option. That’s a massive 10 points. There’s another 5 if you choose “You owe me a fight, Alex.” when speaking to her. I won’t give a step by step guide though since I think that steals some of the fun of the interactions and I don’t think it’s needed, especially if you make a point of not missing that 15 points I just listed.

You do miss out on the Griss scene if you choose either regretting the drink, or regretting the accident. Both are worth 5 points, but I think the Griss scene’s better.

Blow JJ a kiss, if he looks embarassed then you’re on the right track. If he doesn’t look calm you’ve missed some points somewhere.

Hope that helps and makes sense.

@umrahel I think @FairyGodfeather meant to say the kayfabe face path is bugged. Real face should work fine - its the Rio kayfabe relationship that bugs the jj romance.

@Chikiamco No, good thing, indeed! That would have been hysterical and confusing and lucky and unlucky all at the same time! I’ll admit, I would have been astounded and happy with myself for choosing a name like either of those even though it would have made the game completely impossible to understand! LOL!

Yeah that’s what I meant to say.

You can actually set up something codeside to check any entered character name and make sure it doesn’t match names on a list. But that’s an awful lot of work.

@Chikiamco actually the hardest choice i’ve faced in this wonderful game was not who to fight in the last fight…
by that point i always had the character established well enough in my mind to know what was the right thing to do…

no the hardest choice i faced was in one of the first chapters and being a heel.
after the first fight with sagamore you go to the dinner…
as a heel you have to choose between keeping kayfab or being nice to a little kid…
I had decided to keep kayfab with that character all the way through by then…
well I tried to keep kayfab in that scene 3 times and ended up restarting shortly there after simply because i felt so bad for the kid :slight_smile:

also, have you considered making a sequel to this game??
i know it would be a major work (but so was this one) especially keeping straight all the possible relationships with the people, both romantic and otherwise…
but i figure after looking it over and giving it some thought, and romances can be handled mostly in the code with naming except for a few scenes that would need to be written for each individual romance…
and relationships with everyone else wouldn’t be that hard to put in either…
so it really boils down to if you want to continue the story…
because there are several possible story lines that spring to mind just wondering about it…
after all wouldn’t be that hard to have the MC pass on the belt because of injury, story or something else as a start text for those who choose to go for the belt and simply have that saved as a true/false value for further scenes and then have a new story about going for the belt again… or maybe the MC had a very bad injury solving the same problem and had to go manager and you get to tell that story instead??
plenty of possibilities…
it’s just so easy to tell how much you love this universe by the work you have put into it…
that’s after all why we love the story so much…

but even if you don’t want to do a sequel or whatever, please tell me this isn’t your last “choice of games” game??

I loved Slammed, but I do not want a sequel. I think the story is wrapped up wonderfully and there’s a definite sense of closure at the end. Any sequel will detract from that. I know it’s so common to have sequels, for movies, for tv shows that put out series after series even after they’re long past their best, for books to span into huge epic trilogies and beyond.

I liked the end of Slammed! I liked that it left things on a note of possibilities for the future, but that it’s left to our own imaginations what that future will lead to. If the main character will end up marrying Ecstasy and then perhaps making a leap from wrestling to movies and starring in music videos, while the two of them become a power-couple with the perfect relationship. Or if things continue with JJ, where they become tag team partners and keep on wrestling, and every so often get into feuds or fall out but things will always be interesting at least, if never calm or settled or predictable, and where likely the two of them will battle it out to become number 1 and prove themselves the best. Or if they go off to Mexico with Madison to help her there. And if they manage to get the best of Alex. And what happens to Solitary? I think there’s all sorts of interesting stories, but those sort of things are for the realms of fan-fiction, because I think the rivalry between JJ and the MC is the very essence of Slammed! and it’s resolved by the end of the game one way or another, so it just wouldn’t feel right to have a sequel.

I’d rather see @Chikiamco write new stories than tread old ground. I’d love to see the other stories he has to tell.

As for difficult decisions, that first encounter with the kid was definitely difficult. I rarely could be nasty to him. Turning Ecstasy down was another difficult decision. I liked Ecstasy a lot. Even at the start, call the ambulance or don’t, that’s a tough one. Letting JJ be injured so I could fight someone else was always hard on me too. I hated having to make that choice.

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like you say…
loads of difficulet choice… and those are what brought us back to play again and again :slight_smile:

and reason i would love a sequel is because i would love to know what HIS idea for the future is…
i’m not a great writer, so just the outlines you did there never came to mind…
i guess i’ve been corrupted by television or something, but i would love to know more…
because i need a little more before i would feel their stories are truely told and have come to a place where my mind would easily fill in the rest…
also just in general i think the MC have had it FAR too easy, and he/she deserves some more swerves :stuck_out_tongue:

but another reason is that it’s so obvious that he is comfortable with the universe…
i would prefere to learn more of the characters i’ve come to love in this story, but seeing a author shine this brightly is rare for me…

but hey, i’d settle for a few fics from the dear Mr. Chikiamco instead :wink:

I got both JJ epilogue scenes. :3