He’s already started working on it
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I have no interest myself. I want Elya to rule with whomever. I rather keep my dishonored status, unless the people in the world is fine with 2 women. Not sure how M!Marshal and Obren get treated. Dont think anyone said?!
When making Vedran and Obren lovers they seemingly had to hide it. Not certain why though. Maybe he wasnt high enough status only. They didn’t exactly say other than Vedran was a flake, not dependable.
They’re hiding it, and at the end Obren said Marshall can kill him for his love so ig it’s quite dangerous for them to be open about their relationship
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Who’s that whisky-four dude? Haven’t played nor am I interested in playing that game but still, I want to know who they are.
@SchLoZo ok then
The one in the cowboy hat? That’s just the MC I use in every game. Usually he has names with the initials KL or CL but by default named Kieran Lee unless it doesn’t fit the setting. In ITFO his name is Kresnik.
I’ve recently drawn various versions of him, including Kresnik
Link to full comic (Warning: features an NSFW game but doesn’t actually portray NSFW stuff unless you count redacted dialogue): here
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But re-honoring does nothing for the mc, at least it doesn’t for mine. It doesn’t give you your fingers back, since this is not a D&D world where churches have that kind of magic. Nor does it give you the rest of the noble education that was cut short. It would do nothing about how random people on the street recoil at your missing fingers. The only thing it really does is make mc, theoretically, eligible for marriage again, which means Elya gets to use you as a marriage pawn. That is the worst possible outcome for my mc as the fact that he is currently very much ineligible for a “proper” noble marriage is the one benefit he got out of this whole mess.
Mechanically re-honoring seems to be mainly for straight players and mc’s who want to properly court and marry Lada or Milon.
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I wonder what the reaction would be if you just had prosthetic fingers made for the stubs. Not anything per se flashy or useable in general life. But just as a stand in for the missing parts of the digits. Would it be a heresy?
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Probably wouldn’t matter, everybody would know those fingers are fake and the point still gets across, those are still going to be rudimentary prosthetics, not anything really functional
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Well. If Obren and M!Marshal have to hide their relationship. That means its best NOT to get honored again. That way I can romance a gal and ignore the requirements of being used as an alliance marriage thing for Elya. Its what I assumed would be right. Being dishonored was best thing then. Being with a Lady in court would be apparently secretive either way. Honored ends up being expected to find a husband.
Doesn’t have to be a court lady this way. Unless Elya rules its ok.
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I felt that getting rehonored was kinda a slap in the face to everything I have been through and done…kinda proud in what I have accomplished giving what I have had to face
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I’m honestly fine with getting re-honored because it would help in legitimizing my claim to a throne. Not necessarily the throne of Kanton though. I have a theory that if Elya stays queen, we would eventually be able to inherit the throne of Krorid. We probably don’t need to be re-honored for that, considering the Kroridians love us and we already have a claim through our ancestor, but it would help with appearances and reduce any disagreements concerning inheriting despite our dishonored status.
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It’s not something my Marshall is actually thinking about at this point, although the throne thing he kind of is, but there’s going to be a point, potentially, further down the road, if his relationship with Lada continues, it would be nice if it could be made official. Being re-honored would help a shit ton with that. But even at that point, he’s not going to want to move heaven and earth to give the church whatever they want to get that, but it would be nice if they could manage it without having to sacrifice too much
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At least right now I don’t think there’s any definitive advantages to being re-honored but if going down that path, I sincerely hope it allows us to have a peaceful transition of power, allowing us to take the throne with our sis stepping down. That would make us choosing to go through that process make much more sense than just doing it so we could legally marry some one, since so far that seems to be the only reason to go through this right now. Though also I guess roleplay wise as well if we do successfully get re-honored it would be a big deal in the world since it now would mean that there’s precedent for people to be forgiven.
Thing is, though, that’s if she wants to willingly step down, and high leadership Elya definitely won’t. Her low leadership version might be willing to, but that leads to its own set of complications
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Absolutely true, however being re-honored would in theory give that as an option, it would still be up to us whether or not it’s something our Marshall would want. As for the low/high leadership Elya’s willingness to step down, yeah I can see that though if we had a very high relationship with her wouldn’t that make her more receptive though at the very least?
Elya at high leadership, I’m almost 100% sure, would absolutely not be receptive to this at all.
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Well until the next game’s WIP we’ll just have to agree to disagree.
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It’s just, why? Why would she give up the crown? Why would she give it up when she’s spent so much fighting for it. You see her point of view in the epilogue and the pride is there, she wants it, at that point, more than she wants anything else.
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Krorid is culturally unique in never having been conquered by the ancient empire that tied the concept of honour and dishonour heavily to ring fingers. In Krorid mc missing those two digits, while still regrettable, does not mean the same thing it does in most of the rest of the continent and does not dishonour them. If mc wants to rule Krorid re-honouring is not a cultural necessity. Once again for my gay mc it might be better if it does not happen since it means other monarchs from neighbouring nations, who do hold largely to the same concepts of honour and dishonour inherited from ancient Ravaria, would presumably be much less keen in forcing their daughters on us for a political marriage due to not wanting an “honourless” bastard to be part of their future lineage.
Once again re-honoring doesn’t undo anything and since mc is still missing those fingers it won’t bring a shred more respect or better treatment in (non Kroridian) aristocratic circles the only thing it really does is provide a fig leaf excuse to make mc a borderline acceptable, if only barely, marriage candidate for politics. Which would be worse outcome for my mc since the only fringe benefit to being mutilated and dishonored is that it makes him non-viable for a proper noble marriage.
Re-honoring means just losing the one benefit his missing fingers and dishonor provide him for really no upside at all as it won’t magically give him his chopped off fingers back nor will it provide the parts of the royal education he missed out on.
Yep, I feel that mechanics-wise re-honoring is more for people who want to properly commit to Lada or Milon, which my mc does not and platonic friendships with both of them don’t really require re-honoring. Also curious how the platonic relationships with both of them continue to develop over the second instalment as they are the only real friends among the nobility the mc has ever made.
Is very dangerous to gay mc’s getting re-honored as that would almost surely make her look for a potential political marriage for her bastard brother to strengthen her own position as queen no matter how miserable it would be for us. Which is one more reason my will not pursue that path and, if necessary, sabotage his chances of getting re-honored.
True, but straight players have a potential escape from that dismal fate, even with high leadership queen Elya, with Lada or Milon as Milon will likely end up the second most powerful noble in Kanton, second only to the queen, if our side vanquishes Rade and wins the civil war. He’d be the most powerful Duke left in the country and the straight player can romance and marry either him or his sister. High leadership Elya may or may not still like that less than marrying mc off to a foreign royal family post war but nobody can deny that binding the second most powerful family and the crown closer together isn’t beneficial too. All of which cannot be said of gay mc’s relationship with Obren. Thus re-honored straight mc’s have a potential shield against that dismal fate that gay mc’s do not get.
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It’s not as if being married to someone you never wanted is any better and less of miserable experience if you’re heterosexual…
Ah, i see. Yeah, i was looking at this from point of view of MC who didn’t establish any romance in the first game, but if we’re talking about MC who has active romance then yes, there’s quite a difference.
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