Guenevere (WIP)

I’m joining in on the fancast bandwagon. :slight_smile:

For my Morgana, I wanted someone who looked both menacing and cute at the same time so I always picture Celina Sinden
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I didn’t really have anyone in mind for Arthur, until I accidentally stumbled across Gaspard Ulliel and I think he is a perfect fit, for me anyways.

For Lancelot, I was seriously stuck as well and as it just so happens I was watching a old movie with Brad Pitt in it, and I think he looks pretty close to my version on Lance.

My Guens are a bit more racially diverse, however I couldn’t really find anyone similar to what I’m picturing for everyone. So unfortunately, I’ve only found someone who looks similar to my Arthur’s Guen.(Which is my Guen focusing on romancing Arthur, just in case I wasn’t being clear enough) played by Dianna Agron.

My Lancelot Guen is East Asian and my Morgana Guen is Mixed Race, but like I said, I can’t find any pictures.

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In book I, Lance is 20 and Morgana is 23.

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giiiirrrrrl, you have no idea just how much i replayed this game. ITS SOOOO GOOD MAN. i am sooo in love with arthur. He is just such a sweetheart :heart_eyes: he’s oblivious, and ridiculous and really annoying sometimes but ughhhhh i cannnnt. i just. cant. i really like earnest, sincere guys IRL so yeaaaa. im most definitely into arthur. lance was really charming. I also fall for guys that are funny and say witty crap like he does so i love him too buuuut, i feel REALLY shitty at the thought of hurting arthur so i broke it off with him. i swear for all the replaying i did, i could never push myself to be mean to arthur. hes just a cinnamon roll that i really want to protect and love and uglycries lol sorry about that i just HAD to fangirl about him or i will go insane flailing around my room hahaha. :joy: anyway keep it up girl, im rooting for you.

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Arthur is a cinnamon roll
Lance is a sinnamon roll
Morgana is a sinnamon roll with frosting and a cherry on top :heart_eyes::cherries:

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lance is a sinnamom roll? hahaha :joy: what does that mean? sorry if im an idiot but what translated to my brain was that: you think of him as mom figure hahahahaha :joy:

It’s a play on words that jokes about him being a temptation :smirk:

Edit: typo :sweat_smile:; sinnamom roll was written instead of sinnamon roll… Lmao

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And now I’m picturing a synonym roll…maybe the doppelganger spell, and one is Lance, and the other is Lancelot?

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ohoooo. i see. ok, that makes so much more sense. hahahaha :joy: nice play on words. you cannot be more right. he does make me wanna sin but eh, im too much of a goodie two shoes too actually do something about that itch.

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@mistylavenda, I also am an Asian who lives in Sweden. The Romans met the Asians. They shared the information and good.

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I base a lot of my Guen’s personality on what is one of my favorite Doctor Who companions, Nyssa of Traken, so I suppose I can often imagining her looking the same.

But like Nyssa my Guen is Aristrocratic yet kind hearted and rational and desires to helps those in need, plus happens to be very intelligent and willing to learn anything she considers beneficial. Probably doesn’t share Nyssa having her home planet blown up or an indepth knowledge of bio chemistry and being able to use a time machine fairly well of course, but if Jean gives me the option to… :stuck_out_tongue:

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Shush! Stop spoiling the super-secret unlockable ending to Book 7! :stuck_out_tongue:

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Merlin: “When this horse and carriage hits eighty eight miles per hour, you’re going to see some serious shit.”

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So, just some random lore questions:

  1. How literate is the average peasant? How attainable is an education?

  2. What are the social views on virginity for both nobles and commoners? I’ve noticed that Arthur doesn’t really seem to mind if Guen isn’t a virgin.

  3. Building on that, are there reliable contraceptives?

  4. What are the other major religions in the world besides the British Goddess faith?

  5. Can only dark magic users be alchemists, or is it a science that anyone could learn?

  6. What’s the creation/origin story for the world and humans in this universe? Or at least how Britons view it.

  7. Is it known for commoners or peasants to be magic users?

  8. Is there a “middle class” of wealthy merchants and artisans?

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Now I can’t get the picture of a wild Merlin driving (riding?) a horse carriage out of my head. Attempting to guide the horses down a rocky path, shaky wooden wheels and all, people jumping out of the way for dear life.

^^^I’m picturing that scene in Willy Wonka where they go through the tunnel. None of this can be unseen now, lol.

[quote=“mistylavenda, post:8587, topic:1996”] Can only dark magic users be alchemists, or is it a science that anyone could learn?
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I believe Merlin had a lab as well? I think it’s safe to say all magic comes with a bit of alchemy (at least in medieval times).

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@Elsee :grin: :grin: yaaaaay I’m so happy that you’re enjoying the game and the characters! It’s always great to see Arthur and Lance get some love. Thank you for all the encouragement, and I hope you’ll like the next part when it’s ready!

@mistylavenda Those are all FANTASTIC questions!! Let me see what I can do…

Overall, the Guenverse is a much more benign place than the historical Middle Ages, because I don’t think it’s naive or stupid to imagine better worlds rather than worse ones.

Most peasants don’t bother learning to read or write because it’s not very useful to them, but there’s no cultural injunction against them learning, and opportunities exist, either through priestesses at Goddess-shrines or through middle-class secular schools in the larger towns. A bright peasant child who really wants an education will most likely be able to get one, unless they’re extremely isolated or their family is strongly against it (not common). I should also mention that peasants/farmers are generally treated with respect in the Guenverse. They’re neither starving nor filthy.[quote=“mistylavenda, post:8587, topic:1996”]
What are the social views on virginity for both nobles and commoners? I’ve noticed that Arthur doesn’t really seem to mind if Guen isn’t a virgin.
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This is… complicated. There’s absolutely no mindset that sex is sinful or dirty, or that virginity = moral purity, or anything like that. The cult of the Goddess teaches that sex is healthy and good as long as it’s under appropriate circumstances (consenting adults, no lying about intentions, etc.) – and does not specify marriage as necessarily being one of those circumstances. However, the noble and royal families are obsessed with their bloodlines, because magic powers are inherited genetically (more explanation in book 3), and there’s a massive terror of those powers being inherited by someone who shouldn’t have them. For that reason, heterosexual intercourse among noble and royal families is closely monitored and discouraged before marriage because it’s considered a betrayal of the bloodline.

As for Arthur: He’s a bit clueless about sex in general, having been forced to focus on other things since just about the age when he would otherwise have probably devoted more attention to learning about sex. He missed out on some of the basic sex ed that most people get (see below), and because he was brought up as an apparent orphan with somewhat unusual foster-parents, he missed out on a lot of the cultural indoctrination re: noble bloodlines. He does know that things were a political mess when Uther died without naming an heir, and he knows that sex makes babies, but that’s about it. Hence his combination of ignorance and open-mindedness.

Not reliable – that’s part of the problem. There are infertility curses in the Guenverse, but those are not widely known and not used for contraception, nor is any other magic. So people are stuck with medicinal or physical contraception, both of which have a failure rate. There is a much better culture of sex education than exists even in many western countries today (because sex isn’t viewed as a bad thing in itself), which means that most people do understand how pregnancy happens and the best ways to avoid it.

In Britain and on much of the continent, the “other” major religious practice is druidism, which focuses on nature. (The Goddess cult is more human-focused than the druids.) The druids and the Goddess-worshipers are not usually at odds with each other. They see the world in different ways, but don’t consider those ways to be in conflict most of the time. Druidism is older and waning; Goddess-worship, with its more human focus, has gained popularity. Aside from those, there are various pantheistic religions, mainly practiced by the Romans, who have their traditional historical pantheon, and some continental groups (e.g. Saxons, probably) who worship a version of the historical Germanic/Scandinavian pantheon.

Alchemy is science and can be studied by anyone, but it can certainly work in tandem with dark magic, since they involve similar principles and techniques. (This is prob going to be part of Morgana’s father’s backstory, if I ever get around to writing it.)

Haha good question… :sweat_smile: I do have an origin story for the three royal families, but tbh I haven’t come up with a full creation story. I will definitely have to think about that, so thank you for bringing it up! :slight_smile:

Sure; magical aptitude is not exclusive to nobles. Of course, dark magic requires some training and/or access to books and materials, so a peasant with dark magic ability might never realize it, and dark magic is relatively rare anyway. Light magic, on the other hand, is fairly common. Without training, it probably won’t ever be able to do a whole lot – just simple healing, maybe – but anyone who shows light magic ability would probably be invited to come to Avalon for training, regardless of birth status. The priestesses of the Goddess come from all walks of life (though not many are from noble families).[quote=“mistylavenda, post:8587, topic:1996”]
Is there a “middle class” of wealthy merchants and artisans?
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Yes, absolutely, much more than in the historical Middle Ages. Priestesses of the Goddess, artisans, and merchants (and druids, in their own way) have a great deal of freedom. They can get a good education, marry whomever they want, and travel as much as they want / can afford.

Merlin – very unusually – practices both dark and light magic, though he does not teach dark magic (reasons in his backstory). He does study alchemy and science as complementary to dark magic. Light magic doesn’t involve any alchemy or require any materials, just spiritual strength and practice/training.

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I’m playing through Guenevere again, and I got to the part where Guen’s just been healed by the lady of the lake after being attacked by the assassin @ her wedding and she remarks tht she feels calmer as a result of the light magic. I found tht curious, so I had a question, has light magic ever been used to help sufferers of trauma deal with its psychological impacts? I don’t know whether I want to use the word mental illness here, because I don’t know whether it’d be applicable in an Arthurian context (just because of language).
I had another question! Will Arthur’s relationship with Morgana be impacted if you choose to have an affair with her? Conversely, how will a Guen tht has feelings for both of them be handled?

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I haven’t looked at the thread for a while… What have I missed!?

@jeantown, I found some of your answers to @mistylavenda 's questions interesting, particularly about magic. So are the abilities to perform light and dark magic from one inherited “magic” trait that allows you to do either, or do you inherit the abilities of the two different magic separately? Ex: Would Morgana be able to perform light magic if she wanted to, because she inherited the magic trait, or did she only inherit dark magic ability?

I ask, because Guen obviously demonstrates the ability to preform both types of magic easily. We are told her mom did light magic, but we don’t know of family members with dark magic abilities. it almost seems Guen always assumed shed be able to learn dark magic because she had a magical parent. So does the magic trait let you go either way or is Guen just descended from a mixed magical heritage?

Also, would you be willing to tell us a little more about the three royal families again and share a little backstory for them? I know there’s Arthur’s line, the Pendragons. Lot and Pellinore are the leaders of the two other royal lines I think, but I’m not sure of their names or how that whole succession works between the three families.

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Have formal universities been founded in Britain yet? If not, could an intelligent Guen become a benefactor for the first one?

Actually, come to think of it, there could be a lot of different causes that Guens with different personalities and interests could invest in with her personal funds! An intelligent Guen could not only support universities, but also alchemical laboratories and libraries. A warrior Guen, guard training and blacksmithing guilds. A fashionista Guen, cloth merchants and tailors throughout the realm. A kind-hearted Guen, public hospitals, soup kitchens, orphanages, and almshouses. Maybe even an option to pursue several causes.

Just a thought. :smiley: The options could work either towards or against Arthur’s vision.

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