Guenevere (WIP)

[buggygirl11]

@jeantown

Blame the lust spell. Exaggerate the effects of the lust spell. Bend the truth so it sounds more like a love spell.

And it’s not really cheating if we have no choice in the matter. “I love you Arthur, and I tried to resist for you, but the spell…it was just too powerful…”

My Evil Guen will SO be doing that!

[Taylor_Enean]

@buggygirl11

My Evil Guen will SO be doing that!

But that’s EVIL!

…oh, right, never mind.

[jeantown]

@Fiogan

One reaction could certainly be ‘EWW/augh’. But Arthur seems to be rather spontaneous, and I like to think that my diplomatic Guen (whilst uninterested in such things actually), should she try to spin this, could somehow get a 'ooh - you know, actually, that could be fun," kind of response.

hehe But I’m afraid Arthur isn’t going to agree to any threesome-y activity that easily or quickly – if for no other reason than that I want to make the reader work a little harder for it. That said, I am trying to make it so that Guen can at least start things moving in that direction at the end of part 2.

@Fiogan

One of my favourite aspects of Guenevere-your-game is exploring the NPC’s personalities, and how different they can seem depending on how any given Guen acts.

Thank you! I hope that will continue to be true.

@Mim

I’m just trying to imagine Arthur angry.

It’s true that he probably won’t be throwing-things/ranting angry any time soon, but it will be possible to make him angry.

@Mim

I just imagine Arthur pouting and sitting with Merlin, trying to get some pity but Merlin is like :NO, I HAVE TO GO THE THE 21ST CENTURY! twerks into the night

That could happen.

@Mim

Also, is there an option for Guen to identify as lesbian, and tell Arthur that, but still sleep with him (for having kids, whatever).

Yes, as @Mirabella says. Although now I’m thinking that having sex with Arthur on the wedding night might close off the option for Guen to tell him she’s a lesbian later… or did I change that in the part 1 overhaul? If I didn’t, I should.

@Mim

Ah, but no true ‘conversation’ going: I want kids, and I like you, okay with your kids

Yeah, I do need to add that and tinker with some things so it’s more clear that’s the agreement.

@NJG

If that is so, then I might be able to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. Meligaunt’ll die/get captured, and Arthur gets wounded. Win-win situation for the Ruthless Ambitious Guen.

That is a very reasonable plan.

@buggygirl11

And it’s not really cheating if we have no choice in the matter. “I love you Arthur, and I tried to resist for you, but the spell…it was just too powerful…”

Exactly.

[OtherGrimm]

@jeantown

Although now I’m thinking that having sex with Arthur on the wedding night might close off the option for Guen to tell him she’s a lesbian later… or did I change that in the part 1 overhaul? If I didn’t, I should.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that if you sleep with him, you don’t get to have the ‘sex talk’.

[sirgalahad]

@jeantown

Blame the lust spell. Exaggerate the effects of the lust spell. Bend the truth so it sounds more like a love spell. May require an established track record of lying.

Dangggg that’s going to be really evil if you can do that in part 3, because then it would come across like Guen is purposefully trying to use Arthur’s trauma to garner sympathy for her cheating. “Oh yeah the spell manipulated me against my will…just like what happened to you.” even though it’s not true.

Also if you sleep with Lance he’s going to feel awful if you say it was a love spell.

[jeantown]

@OtherGrimm

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that if you sleep with him, you don’t get to have the ‘sex talk’.

Ok, I need to fix that. Unintentional oversight.

@thesunfloweramazon

it would come across like Guen is purposefully trying to use Arthur’s trauma to garner sympathy for her cheating.

yep, been planning things along these lines for a long time now (whywhywhy can’t part 2 just be finished already so I can move on to the real drama?!)

@thesunfloweramazon

Also if you sleep with Lance he’s going to feel awful if you say it was a love spell.

Well, yes, but it will just be an additional measure of awful piled on top of the existing awful… as we’ve seen, Lancelot is not above lying to Arthur if he thinks there’s a good reason. If letting Arthur think it’s a love spell means that Arthur doesn’t feel as betrayed, Lancelot won’t stop Guen from telling that lie.

[sirgalahad]

Oh, so Lance knows it’s a lie then? That’s good- I was thinking if you lied Lance would believe it was actually a love spell all along too.

[jeantown]

No, by the time Guen talks to Arthur about it, both she and Lance will know exactly what caused the spell, and what it is (and isn’t).

[NJG]

@jeantown

@jeantown

That is a very reasonable plan.

Indeed! More to the point, the Ruthless Ambitious Guen and Lancelot will head to Camelot and deal with the invasion.

I’ll just find out about the kitchen location, tell it to Duchess Tilda, and hope she (or her agent) doesn’t mess up when getting whatever’s in the kitchen, as well as… whatever Tilda plans to do to expose Grimald.

[poison_mara]

Could Poison queen used The fact she didn’t cheating against Arthur to make him felt worse. “Look, I suffer same spell you did, Lance even trying hard bang me . But I resisted, for you and the Kingdom. And what did you do BANG Your Sister?”

[NJG]

Get burned, Arthur!

Thank you @Poison_Mara for suggesting it. The Ruthless Ambitious Guen might just do that.

[poison_mara]

Glad to help, If you need more help about ruthless ideas you know where I am. Exactly as Mary Poppisoning

[Mim]

Hey @jeantown, how would make-up work in this universe? Weird question, I know, but what would common products be?

I ask, because I was trying to create my Guen on sims four (having a horrible time finding skin tone, but I digress), and I realized she looked rather weird with any make-up on but the slightest amount of lipstick.

Also, there’s a reference to Guen using angelica leaf powder when cleaning her room after meligaunt trashed it. What was that for? I looked it up, and it seems to be more appropriate in the kitchen or doctors lab, haha. ^^ Was it a beauty product? Or used for scent?

[buggygirl11]

@poison_mara

“Look, I suffer same spell you did, Lance even trying hard bang me . But I resisted, for you and the Kingdom. And what did you do BANG Your Sister?”

OMG, that is so evil! Making Arthur think he could have resisted if he just tried harder (when it was actually impossible to do so)…wow.

I have to do this with Ruthless Guen (…if @jeantown includes it, of course)!

Mmm…does a zero-touching courtly love “romance” (she’s really just trying to keep him interested and turn him into her devoted slave to do her bidding) count as cheating in the Guenverse?

[poison_mara]

Flirting talking is ok, I think because I told about it to hippie and say Lance is just that way with all girls . Everyone just assume is Barbie way to go with ladies. He is a heart breaker idol. My character evrn don’t flirt with him using the loyal girl married for political reasons , without love

[Alexodia]

@jeantown Well that’s good to find out. And hey, if you can find a way to make finding out your wife has cheated on you with your best friend not completely rage-inducing, then you’re a better person than I am.

[jeantown]

@NJG Sounds like a plan!

@poison_mara

Could Poison queen used The fact she didn’t cheating against Arthur to make him felt worse. “Look, I suffer same spell you did, Lance even trying hard bang me . But I resisted, for you and the Kingdom. And what did you do BANG Your Sister?”

Yep, guilt-tripping Arthur is part of the plan. Once I’ve written it, let me know if I haven’t made it extreme enough.

@Mim

Hey @jeantown, how would make-up work in this universe? Weird question, I know, but what would common products be?

I think I consulted this website or others like it when I was figuring out what to put on Guen’s dressing-table. Angelica-leaf powder was supposedly used to make blush.

@buggygirl11

OMG, that is so evil! Making Arthur think he could have resisted if he just tried harder (when it was actually impossible to do so)…wow.

Evil evil evil… at the moment I see no reason not to include such evilness.

@buggygirl11

Mmm…does a zero-touching courtly love “romance” (she’s really just trying to keep him interested and turn him into her devoted slave to do her bidding) count as cheating in the Guenverse?

Probably not. Certainly Arthur will prefer it to alternatives.

@Sherlock221B

And hey, if you can find a way to make finding out your wife has cheated on you with your best friend not completely rage-inducing, then you’re a better person than I am.

A wizard did it.

(But not Merlin. Merlin does not do lust/love spells.)

[Fiogan]

@jeantown

But not Merlin. Merlin does not do lust/love spells.

And we are all very thankful.

Merlin is actually one of my favourite characters, because he’s so very improbably odd - even for Merlin, even for an eccentric and elderly wizard. My Guen always wants to sit down with Merlin, if he ever gets in a talkative way, and just listen for hours. If nothing else, I’m sure the chat would be fascinating.

[Edgewen]

Funnily enough, he reminds me of the TV show’s Merlin when he’s in his Emrys form.

. . . . . .I’ve also held the belief that Merlin is actually this twenty-something just getting his jollies on with whatever it is he can. Carrots, turning Guen into animals, aaaaaaaall sorts of hijinks, but at least he has the courtesy to remove himself from a potentially volatile situation.

I really hope we get a chance to have a mini-adventure with him or Vivien. Or both!

[Mirabella]

If Merlin were a twenty-something guy, I (and many others here) would insist he be made a love interest, and then the game would never be finished.

@Edgewen

I really hope we get a chance to have a mini-adventure with him or Vivien. Or both!

I second this motion. Maybe in Book 3’s enchanted forest?