Children of the Gods (Important poll #12306)

Child-support does not necessarily imply any visitation rights, particularly in the rare cases where parenthood isn’t officially established until the child is over 12 or so and gets their own say in those matters.
Although if he had waited with the fatherhood admissions a couple of months until we were over 18 he could have dodged much of the financial liabilities, about half of them actually, if the mother, or other close relatives wait until then to press their claims. Children themselves have between 18 and 21 to make them and the courts will sometimes grant financial compensation even to older individuals in the case of rich guys (or gals, but mostly guys obviously) having dodged their parental responsibilities.
Parents are generally expected to financially support any children they father or mother around here and only the truly indigent can get away with not doing so. That very much doesn’t apply to “daddy” Hades tho.

How is it not there? It is very much there from the pov of my mc. He did the whole uncle sham for years then up and left us and he never once told us that he was our father during the period in my mc’s life that he would have wanted a father. For my mc it’s simply too late for the whole “father” thing now, besides he clearly prefers Aeson, so let them play “happy family” together, my mc doesn’t want any part of it.

I said it feels like we’re the red-headed step-child in comparison to Aeson, it was an imperfect analogy from the start.

We’ve had the discussion of father’s wealth before. You said multiple ties your mc doesn’t want anything to do with Hades.

True, nothing that was freely given anyway, watching Hades squirm during child-support court proceedings would make it worth it, if the state could actually compel him to do so of course, and in that case my mc could always have given the actual money to some sort of charity for homeless orphans to really drive the point home.

My mc certainly wouldn’t accept any charity from him or Aeson that’s true, legally obligated payments would be different though as they wouldn’t feel like charity and it’s not like my mc would be obligated to actually spend the proceeds on himself.

You know who my mc would accept things from though, sugar daddy Ares, in the original plan the Gods would have taken turns at being our guardians anyway and for my mc it’s Ares’ turn now. :grin:
“Auntie” would work too, at least she gives us better clothes for that one party now, though we still don’t get our own weapon or any accessories. :disappointed:

God of wealth. I doubt he would ever squirm to that. Or sit through one in the first place.[quote=“idonotlikeusernames, post:9666, topic:15482”]
My mc certainly wouldn’t accept any charity from him or Aeson that’s true, legally obligated payments would be different though as they wouldn’t feel like charity and it’s not like my mc would be obligated to actually spend the proceeds on himself.
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If someone gives you money, you feel obligated to spend it on yourself? And money from parents feels like charity?

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Oh, alright. For your MC it’s there. I understand that, but like I said in my other post we don’t know if Athena told him not to tell us. We don’t know the reason.

Nah, I was commenting on the fact that you said Aeson is his favorite. Aeson is seen on a pedestal by you, the character’s, and other people who play the game. In the regard of us being a bastard I just wanted to say that he’s in the same boat. He’s not on a pedestal in that instance.

Well if it didn’t come from Aeson Saint or Hades my mc would most likely spend it on things for himself at the moment, yes, particularly since in comparison to the other “elite” demigods on Olympus he currently lacks a great many things.

From Hades, yes, particularly if it was an “allowance” that was inferior to Aeson’s. Assuming my mc would want anything to do with his “father” in the first place of course.

In old Spanish culture There was a way between nobles to show that they love x son over other publicaly and clearly. They give X son Better clothing and accessories like jewelry also the hair proper of your status. The other is there in plain color less cloth. Within perfume. And sit in a different line.

Here is exactly same if Hades is our father.

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Question: Outside of your mc’s pov how do you feel about Hades?

How does he fare up to his brothers?

Well, they all don’t give us shit. I don’t know. I just don’t care for that materialistic stuff. Considering I wasn’t able to have that early on in life the MC clearly doesn’t need it. Plus, I’d rather pay for my own shit at this point. Unless it’s a weapon I don’t want anything from anyone. I’d rather be independent as we’ve all been for 3 years.

I see your point though. Personally, if Hades were to all of a sudden give me clothing and jewelry though I wouldn’t like it. I’d feel like he’s trying to buy me which would piss me off.

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It is not the material stuff. It is a public display of Your brother is better, you will never be equal to my eyes. I will feed you and have you rise in my home. But I will never give you love. It was frequent when the loved spouse died in childbirth and other marriage came or even consider the child survivor the guilty of murder the mother.

Aeson is the big star . Hades NEVER tried to adopt us. We where just a second stuff he even called us son or daughter.

I prefer Viagra dad he at least not pretend being super dad

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I wouldn’t waste my time brooding over what he didn’t give us or if he cares about us. All this doesn’t matter, all that matters is for my MC to gain power and rise to the top.

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As so often Mara puts it better than I do.

Not only Spanish nobility, ours did too, the different lines and seating that is, also lesser tutors/education and arranged marriage. It’s just that with the clothing our culture and religion sadly discouraged too much flamboyance and overt displas, so not a huge difference there between the favourite and the unfavourite.

Exactly this again, though of course all of Olympus participates in that with regards to Aeson. Still as our supposed “father” Hades is the most egregious case.

Except he didn’t even do that and that isn’t something my mc would want now. If we’re gonna have a spring-break or something my mc most definitely wouldn’t want to have to spend it with his “family”.

@ashestoashes018 Wip “Citadel” has an extreme case of this played, very much true.

Yep. Again, unlike with Aeson. Which is why my mc doesn’t want him to start with the “father” bullshit now, when the “uncle Henry” was clearly good enough for the likes of us for our entire lives. If anything if it was good enough then it is still good enough now.

Also very much true, at least Zeus is an equal opportunity crappy dad in that he treats Saint almost as, not even badly, just dismissively as he treats us.

Zeus in particular wouldn’t stand for that and will never, ever let that happen. In any case I don’t think our mc’s even could, their essence powers are utterly pathetic and even after our stupid birthday, what I think that what we “inherit” is just a whole lot of potential. Of course potential is absolutely worthless without the proper training and education to harness it and gaining that will likely take us anywhere from years to millennia to even get us up to the level of the Gods, let alone surpass them.

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Haha, exactly!

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It is not the material stuff. It is a public display of Your brother is better, you will never be equal to my eyes. I will feed you and have you rise in my home.
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Hm, real life wise I generally view everyone as equal. In my opinion, no one is better than anyone. Although game wise…I suppose that’s a different story. Aeson is seen to be better than us while most of the people in Olympus act like we’re going to start the fucking apocalypse or world war 3. I don’t view him as better than my MC but I can see from the perspective of how some people like you and @idonotlikeusernames feel this way. It’s there - people thinking he’s better than us - but I just say “Fuck that shit.”

That would be cool if we could have a fight scene with Aeson. Either a friendly fight or because one of us did/said something that angered the other so much that they threw a jab.

Nah, fuck him. I agree with the fact that he shows he gives no fucks about his children. Saint is a great example of that. So it’s cool he’s not fake, but he’s a piece of shit. I have no respect for him. Cheating on his wife, having multiple children on the side, and neglecting her to the point the bitch is now a psycho he fucked with her emotions and mental state of mind so much. Even though I think Hera is stupid for staying and taking that disrespect while still claiming she loves him. 

At least Hades defends us when some of the gods were ganging up on us. Poseidon just sits there and Zeus let’s everyone disrespect his child if you chose him to be your father. He only speaks up because Ares was being too hyped. Wanting to fight a 17 year old. He should be ashamed of himself with his grown ass.

Haha! Let us? Pfft! Fuck him. Maybe we could convince the other gods and goddesses to gang up on him with us. They don’t seem to like his control over their decision’s. I’ll figure a way to kill him or lock him up for life. Only if that’s going to be an option within the game.

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We are talking about Greek gods. None of them is good. NONE all are guilty of genocide. And more . None of there really cares anything anyone except them. No moral no mercy. So don’t believe you could make them a democracy. Or a happy hippie society.

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Ultimately none of the Gods would ever stand for us becoming more powerful than any of them, even if they do overthrow Zeus. So it wouldn’t matter one single bit. We’re a tool and they’ll dispose of us as soon as they believe it is opportune to do so.

Good luck with that, since our mc seems to barely have a clue of how to even begin to harness the friggin essence, so even after that stupid birthday I don’t think the mc is suddenly going to become all-powerful and less pathetic. Rather they get the potential to do so, the utterly untrained potential that we barely even have a clue of how we’re even going to begin to harness it, let alone use it to accomplish anything worthwhile at all.

That would be a short fight, considering how Aeson has all his stats maxed out, is literally always bigger and stronger then we are and has got a decade of training on us and actually seems to know, or at least know much about it then we do, how to harness the friggin essence. I mean my mc certainly doesn’t like the guy and hates the fact that he lusts after him, but I don’t think we really stand any sort of chance against Aeson in a fight :unamused:

Ugh, my mc just wanted to scream at Hades to shut up there and that he can handle himself against Ares’ sweet ass just fine (not technically true of course, but you get my sentiment).

Since at the moment he can’t kill or even hurt us too badly, because “fate” my mc would be up for that, particularly if it’s naked oil-wrestling. He wouldn’t stand a chance of course, but it would at least be more “fun” than anything they’ve let him do on Olympus to date.

I hate penguin suits. :rage:

He’s a murderous asshole, but then all of the Greek, Roman, Norse and Egyptian gods used to be. So nothing new there. Less heavy on the raping and pillaging than some of his fellow gods, if I recall correctly, so I’ll give him that. All of them are utterly vile and despicable scum by our modern standards though.

My mc would love to, except we’re trapped on Olympus with no way to make money and even if we survive this whole ordeal my mc certainly isn’t planning on getting a demigod job or using his “diploma” from that horrid school they’re having us attend.
Therefore if Santi, or Auntie or Ares want to pay for his stuff at the moment, my mc really isn’t in a position to refuse (anyone except for Saint, Hades Aeson and Sage that is, as he’d rather starve than accept charity from any of those four).

Well if Aeson wasn’t so ridiculously much taller then our mc’s are they’re practically begging for it with their “you’re (legally) one person” talk, so if we’re legally one person to them then we cannot steal from ourselves, by taking items from Aeson, now can we? And since my mc only has one mirror that is even remotely valuable he’d get the better end of the deal by far, even if Aeson were to do the reverse as well.

As for expecting others to pay for stuff, there’s not much else we can do now can we, since we have no money and no opportunity to make some. I mean my mc would go down to Athens in a heartbeat if he could and see what he could do to make money there, but we’re forced to stay on Olympus, attend that silly school and are prevented from doing anything remotely profitable with our time.

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I’m pretty sure they’ve all done some fucked up shit. The thing is though, Ares does care for his daughter so he’s not in the category of only caring about himself. I don’t want peace with them, I want to murder half of the gods. Then I can have my peace which is what I’ll strive for after this is all over with. Whether it’s by myself or with Aeson, Athena, Hades, Priscilla, and Saint.

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Ultimately none of the Gods would ever stand for us becoming more powerful than any of them, even if they do overthrow Zeus. So it wouldn’t matter one single bit. We’re a tool and they’ll dispose of us as soon as they believe it is opportune to do so.
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Oh, yeah we’re definitely being used, haha. No doubt about that. I’m not really sure what to say to the rest of what you said. I guess I’ll try to channel my inner Black Widow and go all assassin like or go into hiding while plotting to take them down one by one. Whether I’ll succeed or not, I have no idea haha.

:joy: Thank you for the luck. You’re not gonna try to kill any of them though!? Not gonna try? Nah, I can’t be negative about my potential. I’m just going to die trying like a boss.

Well, I just think it would be entertaining honestly. You’re so mad that you want him, Haha. :joy:

So, you would want Hades to stand by and let you get killed by someone? Not talking about Ares just speaking in general. You wouldn’t want him to help?[quote=“idonotlikeusernames, post:9678, topic:15482”]
Since at the moment he can’t kill or even hurt us too badly, because “fate” my mc would be up for that, particularly if it’s naked oil-wrestling.
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You really want him, haha. The fuck? He’s so disrespectful though. I don’t see the appeal but you do you.

Mhm, well at least we have some money in our pocket from winning the poker game. I wouldn’t mind working in the hospital. I agree though we don’t have that much money to our name. We were homeless though for 3 years, so we can survive without it if we chose to.

Oh, I didn’t realize this had opened back up~ yeah, @Rohie has been working really hard, and the beta testers are gonna be testing the completed P1 update any day now. :slight_smile:

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Has he murdered anyone besides the Titans in any of the myths?


The only incident I can recall him involved in the death of a person is when that he told the musician not to look back taking his wife out of the underworld, and that was him being nice.
The only incident I remember him being malicious was when someone was trying to steal Persephone, and I think that guy still got a happy ending.

Never once cheated on Persephone in the original Greeks, the stories where he did were Roman.


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Gasp! Can this be? Athena is supposed to be cool hard and calculating yet she has time to actually show this child affection and love. I guess I can see how Hades would be better for some people but I’m definitely an Athena guy.

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Well your mc does, mine really isn’t interested in anything at that party.

Sure we can, doesn’t mean my mc wants to, I don’t think anyone wants that “lifestyle” and homelessness, particularly child and teenage homelessness tends to be a signal that something in society is terribly broken.

Your mc sees disrespectful (which literally everyone on Olympus is towards the mc, as they don’t get a shred of respect from anyone) mine sees, refreshing and honest “straight-talk” and a hot ass. :wink:

Yeah, my mc would mind that though, he really doesn’t want any demigod “job”, particularly since Aeson doesn’t seem to have one either. If he must have a job he’d prefer something away from Olympus, and likely dubiously legal, after all he used to be a smuggler already in the new situation. Still even Greek mcDonalds, for Greek minimum wage would trump any demigod “job” on Olympus for my mc.

Nope, if such a thing happens it would, according to old Greek sensibilities anyway, be my mc’s “fate” to die, although you didn’t want to talk about that in the one situation where it actually comes up my mc knows Ares is all bluster, because if they wanted him dead it would have been the first thing Zeus would have done.
More generally “daddy” Hades has done absolutely nothing about those seekers wanting to kill us remember? We’ve survived thus far on our own and my mc neither wants nor needs a pretend “family” looking out for him now.

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