Zombie Exodus: Safe Haven General Discussion (Part 3 beta coming in December)

It’s always a little tricky to sense when sarcasm is being used. :sweat_smile:

But yeah, I think the opinions of Kelly are more mixed at the moment than anything else (and some who are attempting to keep the whole group safe may have redone their Part 2 run in order to prevent Kelly from being taken in in the first place).

Like Candace from Zombie Exodus (at least, that’s the character that comes to mind when I see Kelly).

But yeah, I’m holding out for that Character Arc too.

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I haven’t made my first save for part 2 because I’m waiting for update 2-2 to release before I make set in stone decisions but I know I’m not joining Keith’s group but my Con Artist might so she can kill Keith and take over (if possible in part 3) My want to do the right thing but not stupidly idealistic( he’s a realist) Combat Medic wouldn’t join and is willing to kill them if he has to. Also I let Jillian kill Driver and was annoyed that Jamie wanted to bring Rosie and I didn’t accept her apology. Don’t even get me started about that traitor Lapu:roll_eyes:

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I already had more than 10 save files, with different minor outcome each like the thing i scavenge, and romance relationship…
I just love to relive those adventures again :slight_smile:

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I’m the same way I’ve done a lot of different playthroughs and like roleplaying the different characters I create playing my psychopathic surgeon (think Hush from batman but not an obvious supervillain) makes me feel dirty because of how many people I killed for no reason except “they’re weak” justification. I’ve unlocked 37 out of 40 achievements on steam 41 out of 45 according to the in game achievements and really just trying new options and planning out my major decisions for when I finally make my part 2 save file.

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I have a question about metal parts. Idk why but recently I cant find any metal parts in the first part of the story except at the school. Is this a bug or am I doing something wrong?

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How high are your Scavenging skills? Pretty sure its levels effects how much stuff a character finds when searching for most supplies (and Search helps you discover the more hidden things in the environment).

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Scavenging skill 4
Search also 4

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i was able to find some metal parts from scavenging the three-story house (basement i think) (and if my memory serves me correctly Sean’s house too if you’re in the suburbs). My scavenging was at 66% (4 - Advanced).

Do you have the Afraid of Heights setback (i don’t recall the right word that Jim used)?

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But i found many metal parts in many places in my recent re-play :-):stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

Fred’s House was the primary place with loads of metals

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Between Jaime and Rachel who do you think is the better leader and why ? or do you think your MC is provided the reason isn’t because I’m the “MC so naturally I should be in charge”

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Also who’s your favorite character/ love interest and why ?

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I think they’re both good leaders in their own right. There are lines that point out their strengths and their flaws that make them pretty much opposites I’d say? Jaime is much more compassionate but Rachel is much more practical and resourceful.
In theory I’d go for Rachel simply because of who she is and what she can do, though I’m likely to side with Jaime because I’d follow the same path he would :man_shrugging:

But really the MC kinda is the best leader, depending on how you build them. They interact with every character besides Rachel’s group the most so it’s easy to gain everybody’s trust. unless you go around acting like an ass in which case nvm

As characters I like both Jaime and Jillian a fair bit. Jaime because he’s literally our best friend from the beginning (which I think is hard to write well but Jim hit the nail on the head) and Jillian because we’re basically the only person she’s got besides MC’s nephew should you choose him. I’d like to see more of Driver, though.

My favorite RO is probably Woody, though. Tommy comes a close second, I just like the scene where Woody cleans up for the MC because Madison says he smells or whatever :smiling_face_with_three_hearts: That, and Jaime’s scenes where he talks about how serious Woody takes things.

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I’d go with Rachel as being leader (even though I can rarely ever get her to be) because I think she’s practical, properly paranoid as it relates to threat other people pose to our group and she doesn’t just let anyone join the group she was considerate about who she wanted with her and why. Unlike Jaime who demands we accept a mentally unstable bandit join us because according to him she or Driver “are good people” even though they have been robbing and killing people since the start and get’s mad at Jillian, Madison and the MC for not forgiving them because they just tried to kill us.

I only think the MC is the best leader if he’s that invested in the group or has the right skill set. For example my sword wielding College student is a loner who really doesn’t like everybody we have and is more interested in scavenging or building traps than family bonding with the group and would rather protect the people we already have than bring more people unless the person has actually done something to help us or has a valuable skill.But he wouldn’t let some random person he just for the sake of principals and morality.

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I guess that’s just down to personal preference then. I personally don’t like Rachel all that much outside of how skilled she is :sweat_smile:

There are multiple scenes that point out how misunderstood Driver and Rosie are, though. Driver’s act of heroism when we get into the school and Rosie giving Driver her leftovers come to mind. Jaime himself also points out they really are just followers who happened to be with the wrong crowd. I trust Jaime’s opinion and hopefully with them being his lackeys in a sense they’ll make a big turnaround. Rosie’s romance will give me an opportunity to make a female character and learn about her character thank god.
I understand Madison and Jillian’s reactions though, especially if Lyle ends up dying :pensive:

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I can see why people don’t like the secret spy who considers 90 percent of our group not qualified to be in her group but if people are mad she doesn’t right away tell you or the group for that matter I’m a government agent who’s been preparing for this for awhile. Think of it like this way you just met like 12 hours ago and you hadn’t really decided if you were going to join forces. Taking all that into account would you tell this random group of people you may or may not be surviving with that you’re a spy?

Yes there are several scenes that prove Driver and Rosie are good people or at least humanize them and I fully admit I have grown fond of Rosie and would probably save her life.But at the time when there trying to kill us or killed Lyle I’m not one to get in the way of Jillian’s need for revenge especially if she had killed someone I loved or cared about I know for sure I would shoot her or drop her into a horde of zombies regardless of Jaime’s personal relationship with either of them and I would definitely chastise him or punch him for being angry that I avenged my loved one.

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When it comes to Tommy I think he’s a great character I’m just worried what he’s going to do after he gets his revenge it seems to me that he’s only staying alive so he can avenge his mother and he doesn’t seem concerned with life outside of revenge. True he has the MC provided they’ve had his back but I don’t see him being the regular Tommy we’ve come to know and love after he kills them. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes down the “he who fights monsters” path or goes crazy like Kenny from the game formerly known as telltale’s the walking dead and his ruthlessness starts to scare members of our group. thoughts?

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Really, the outcome of his character comes down to the MC’s influence. I can’t really imagine a “regular Tommy” because outside of the riot his actions are determined by MC’s responses. He strikes me as sort of a 10K character, though 10K is much more self reliant (so is Tommy really, but like I said his personality and goals are based on the MC.)

I’ll admit I can see him going off by himself if he finally gets his revenge. He did voice his discontent with MC gathering such a large group, so without MC on his side he might just strike out?

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True we do influence him but that doesn’t mean we’re going to be the deciding factor of how Tommy thinks and how he’s going to act in this post outbreak world. The only thing we have control over in the game is who lives and die we can’t really guide the character to how we would act in a situation we can give advice and comfort them but I don’t think Tommy will ultimately decide to spare or kill the Makarovs because of us.

When I said regular/normal I mean a stable personality that resembles Tommy or he does things that aren’t wildly out of character for him. As for the 10K likeness I agree when it comes to self reliance but it seems Tommy still sees the dead as people well not really people but has a hard time killing them because they still look human while 10k is a zombie killing machine. I do agree that if the MC wasn’t there he would ditch everyone.

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Idk, the varied options we get when talking to him (his mother’s death, him joining the group, the lakeside scene) convince me otherwise. I don’t imagine Jim would give us the option to say “don’t pursue them” then have Tommy still turn around and do so anyway (unless the MC has low empathy/persuasion, in which case that’s the player’s fault.) Granted, I would prefer the Makarovs to be put down, I just wouldn’t want to lose Tommy in the process.

I get what you mean, I just don’t think a lot of his character outside of his friendliness (towards MC) and closeness to his mother has been explored a lot. I don’t find that an issue since I like Tommy and our influence over him (good and bad), but if that part of the story were removed there wouldn’t be a lot to him.
That’s just my opinion, though. I could completely be misinterpreting his character for all I know :man_shrugging:

I actually forgot about that part :man_facepalming: I haven’t had an MC romance Tommy in a while so I just assumed he hated them too.

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In my opinion, I think Tommy sees us as an emotional support system to help process his trauma. Yes the way we interact with him is a lot different than with the other characters. Which is one of my favorite things about him so I don’t think it’s a bad thing. But while I do often tell him not to be consumed by revenge or put it above his own well being, I don’t think it’s the MC’s or at least my place to tell him to kill or not kill the Makarovs when he finally get’s the chance because then I feel like we have too much influence over him.

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