Would you like your MC to be a Demon, a Human or something else? (working on the story)

Changed the title for you, as the grammar used bugged me :wink:.

As for the question, yes I would appreciate having multiple races to choose from when creating my main characther in a game, with my favourite “race” for a MC being the Elvish one. (Pointy ears = best ears)

LOL, you had some extra spaces and some of the words were spelled wrong. :wink:

I love demons. My nickname is Demon. I am not evil.

My forum name as @Goddess, so I’m pretty sure that speaks for itself. WINK, WINK!!! :smile: :smile:

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I like Demons too, but before I write the story I need to put the audience and writing before the authors needs so that’s why I put up this topic to get an idea.

God damnit the irony is real :laughing:

In my defense , I was quickly typing on my phone , so cut me some slack :sweat_smile:

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ok, so now I have come up with a good idea but the reason I only put it up now was because my computer crashed and feel free to comment on it.

life in your home town of (unnamed) was hard since many people in your village feared you because of your race (Elf, Demon, Humanoid, werewolf or fairy/fae separate paths for each race) this caused you to feel like an outcast since you never truly new where you came from since 16 years ago you had been dumped on a strangers doorstep in the mid-winter like you never really mattered to your true family. you were the only non-human in the village which made you feel like a freak. But when you saved a stranger from a group of bandits and that was when your luck had changed, you just saved the headmistress of the dawnsford university (still working on the name.)

I know its vague but its about a person who felt like an outcast in there home town (unnamed) and has no idea where she/he/neutral has come from. but their luck changes when they are picked to go to a exclusive school. but I have no idea if its going to work out and besides its going to be really hard to write since I still need to find a co-author who knows how to code, download the choice script and some free time so this is going to basically going to be an impossible thing to write but here’s hoping.

so does anyone like my story idea or does it need improving?

Hi, I’ve read your idea and you did ask for feedback, so here it goes.

Your idea could use a little shaking up. You have a lot of fairly overdone fantasy tropes here, and you haven’t really talked about how you’re going to overturn or subvert them.

A teenaged orphan with a mysterious past who was dumped on the doorstep of a stranger (presumably in a wicker basket with a cryptic note attached) who has to leave his/her rustic village to go to magic university?

If this is satire, your opening is completely on point, but if not you’re in trouble.

I would suggest you go back to formula and try to talk about how your story will be different from accepted fantasy tropes, rather than which ones you want to embrace.

Maybe take a look at threads like this:

To get an idea for how to switch things up in your own story, all of those ideas are informally agreed to be free-use ideas, and you have my permission to use any of mine.

If you want any idea-help at all, feel free to PM me or just ask here, as you will soon learn I have a pathological inability to withhold my opinion, so that’s my problem.

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ok thanks, and I guess I could tone it down a bit and make it much less complicated. I can’t say for certain that this is my main idea since I’m sort of throwing ideas around at the moment but the monster university bit is staying since I’ve already got a basic background for it and I don’t want to change it, but I am still working on it so I can defiantly say the idea’s going to evolve and I am almost sure that I’m going to keep the multi-race option since I haven’t heard of many games that offer that so it will give the readers a wider choice of gameplay, meaning different storylines and endless possibilities and THATS what I’m offering in my story so far. another great bonus in this is that I could possible put in different side-quest for each species which can lead to different outcomes.
(think I’ve made it far too complicated for myself haven’t I…)
if I could I would share one of my plans for this story I plan to write, but I can’t figure out how to since its on a Word document and I have no idea how to link it (T-T) but it is a draft so it isn’t very good at all but hey, I gave it a go so if someone could please tell if I can link word documents onto this forum I would be eternally grateful.

The issue isn’t complexity, the issue is that its not complex enough.

You haven’t wandered far enough away from the basics to make it your own material.

Your big thing is the multiple races thing, right?

So why aren’t you inventing your own races? You’re writing fantasy, making things up is the whole point.

Elf: Bit basic. How are they different from Tolkien’s Elves? What are you adding to the story? Demon? Too obvious and played out. Humanoid? All of these races are humanoid, that word means nothing. Werewolf? What are you adding to that trope? Why not invent a new kind of being with impulse control? That’s all werewolves are, anyway. People with poor impulse control. Fairies? If you’re six inches tall then you’ve got a funny story, otherwise meh.

Well the whole thing leaves me a little cold, to be honest. If you took a little time to go back to the tropes and mix them up a little you would have an interesting story on your hands.

How about I give you an example?

Take your garden-variety Elf. Tall, pretty, ages well, fetching pointy ears, likes to hang out at the park. That’s what you picture when someone says ‘Elf’, right? So change it up.

Instead of pretty people who are big into trees, how about pretty people who are trees? Sentient wooden beings with antlers, flowers for hair and a slower pace compared to the other races. They would have long lives (because they’re trees) but slow, purposeful thoughts and movements.

Boom. Kept the key components of the word ‘Elf’ but changed the whole character type in such a way that you can tell new stories with them.

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you see that was my original idea but I had to put it on hold because people would criticize me too much so here WAS one my ideas:
**Novalien: a species that has the unusual ability to talk to fire, it is identified by the smoke that floats above its head and the silver fire which hides behind their red eyes **
pretty bad but to me it was unique, then when I showed what I had written she said that it was way too weird and stick to the normal mythical species.

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Well I don’t know who ‘she’ was but greater levels of originality are always welcome in fantasy. As previously stated in this genre making things up is kinda the whole point.

Your ideas might well need work, but you should take the time to work on them, rather than abandoning them.

If you wish to go for the middle ground, then do what I just did with the Elves to all the other ‘races’ you want to talk about and use them to tell new stories that are different to what came before.

Also, don’t disparage your own ideas, nobody’s ideas come out fully-formed. You should spend a little time with your ideas, figure out how they work and how to ensure they make sense in your story.

If you want to write about a race that has a special relationship with fire, then try to think about how their society works beyond just “they like fire a bunch”. Give them a backstory, a mythology, a history. Who’s in charge, how do they govern themselves. Eventually you’ll realise that the thing you originally thought was the important thing about your idea (the fire in this case) was only one small part of a big, interesting race of people.

EDIT: You know what? I just remembered something that really helps me when I’m trying to come up with new ideas.

See, I look for pictures made by other people and I make up my own stories about what’s happening in them.

For example, what do you see when you look at this picture?

What’s happening here? What is the hand? Who are the people around it? What happened to this place to make it a desert?

Or this one:

What are those woolly animals doing in the desert? Who lives in those cabins? What kind of people would travel like this? How would they get food and water?

If you can answer these questions, then you’ve got a story right there.

These pictures may not have any relation to the story that you want to write, but they are evocative, aren’t they? Look on sites like deviantart and whatnot for pictures that really tell you a story, then use them to think about the kind of story you’d like to tell.

Artists are creative folk, they think outside the box on these things.

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I don’t think I’ve seen humanoid plants in a game yet. I could pet the werewolves without fear.

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I’m the kind of ornery person who, when I’m playing something like D&D, insists on being the powerless human who relies on stabbing dragons in the eye and running away. I have a soft spot for the underpowered and the overlooked. And yet I’m making a game where you play as a monster undercover among humans… go figure.

I don’t like power gaming or god characters. I don’t want things to be easy. If I am playing as some kind of mythological creature, give me limitations and weaknesses; throw me in a setting where it’s a disadvantage. One of the better games I’ve played this year was Octodad. You play as a hyperintelligent octopus. But here’s the catch: you have to fit in among humankind, and walk and push shopping carts and make coffee using your unwieldy boneless tentacles. It is nearly impossible. That’s my kind of game.

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Fighting super villains with nothing but a battery guzzling laser sword from E-bay is way more fun than playing god but I’d rather cuddle and expand my party.

The most important part of a game for me is choosing the personality of my character. If I can’t choose the MC’s personality, the MC should be easy to relate to or funny.

Your game sounds like it has a well defined MC as the MC is forced to feel like an outcast. Why can’t the MC enjoy that people fear them and feel powerful because they can use that as an advantage over the humans?

I prefer relationship based games over stat heavy or games solely about winning or losing. I want to enjoy the journey through the game and not have to worry about picking the ‘right’ answer. Who’s home did we live at after we were abandoned? Is it an orphanage, nice human home, abusive human home, or something else? These details will determine if I feel happy to go to a place where I will (hopefully) be accepted or sad at leaving My adoptive family and friend behind and see the school as a prison; these details give a story depth.

As for the five monster races, I intensely dislike it when the meaning of words is distorted so much that it becomes meaningless. Elves can be tall or short, some zombies are fast while some are slow, some werewolves can change at will and live in a pack while others are human most of the time…It makes it hard for me to picture and play monster MC’s so if you’re going to make a sentient tree MC, please don’t call it an elf.

It also seems extremely difficult to write a different story for each race with each story having it’s own branching and each playthrough being a satisfying length. It might be easier to have a similar main story and then branch off from the central story.

For the backstory, history, and society of each race. I don’t think much more than the MC’s looks and abilities should be mentioned at the beginning, because MC doesn’t know about their background. School could teach history lessons, but with all the diversity of many races comming together, the setting would probably be more like modern day America than old school rpg races.

tl;dr Your idea is fine, but it probably wouldn’t fit my specific taste(but, I’m picky).

Sentient trees are closer to Dryad territory. Does anyone have a name for sentient flowers?

You know what I want to play as? I want to play as a faceless entity. The only prominent feature, if any, would be the mouth. It could be a being made of shadows, of light, of plant - I don’t care. Just give me a playable faceless monster and I’ll be set for the next 10 years. There’s this artist on tumblr and they have a character named Steve who is pretty close to what I’m talking about. :persevere::kissing_closed_eyes:

You know: Playing a werewolf that some family mistakenly took in as a puppy one full moon night would be kind of funny.

edit: actually “could” is probably more accurate.

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Mild devil’s advocacy: the genre, to the extent it is a genre, exists because a lot of people like reading derivative and familiar “other world” fiction at least as much as they like original works of imagination. For every China Mieville, there are surely a dozen Terry Brookses, Dennis McKiernans, and Terry Goodkinds.

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I’m not asking anyone to challenge China Mieville.

Just because he looks like he could beat the everlovin’ snot out of me and everyone in this room.

“Yes, I write books for a living. I mostly just carve the words into a rock with my little finger…”

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funny that fantasy (where making stuff up is the point) keeps recycling races with a few changes here and there while sci fi seems to keep getting more and more races (at least in literature).

I still want to see more werewolves that aren’t snarling rageoholics.