Werewolves: Haven Rising — Rise up, werewolves! Fight for your freedom!

I’m just here to say that this passage made me cry for a lot of reasons. As someone who knows hunger and risk of starvation myself, I can entirely understand how Ahote’s feeling. But also as someone who believes in the power of the union and strikes I know that no right is given, all of them are taken. People in power won’t step down their privilege to benefit the ones they see as second-class citizens unless they feel they have no other choice but to bend to their demands. History of Haiti, France and Russian Revolutions, the Suffrage, BLM, as well as any working class movement for improvements or anti-dictatorship movements taught us that. But also, changes take time. A precious time that a person who doesn’t know when their next meal will be (or if there will be another meal at all) might not have. The hope of a better day gets obfuscated by the desperate, oppressing feeling of your stomach hurting, dizzy head and weak knees. The fear of sleeping in the streets, out in the open, at risk of all kinds of violence from your oppressors takes your mind, and you never ever will want to get remotely close to that situation again.

This game brings such an important message to these dark days of ascending fascism world-wide. How to unionize and strike when so many lives depend on you? How to organize different parties and balance different points of view to fight against the true oppressor? The weight of this dialogue here hit me like a damn truck.
Haven’t finished the game yet due to lack of time, maybe I’m too sensitive but I’m already in tears.

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Ok finally took time to end the game during the holidays and this game is one of my favorites now.

Btw is there a way to kill Lapu, that treacherous coward? I mean, I really tried to understand his point of view but he sent information to the enemy after all the violence Tiva went through and tried to blame the ones who were fighting against it for this. I took a full Diplomacy route, and couldn’t find a way to dissuade him from the idea that there’s no way of “being left alone” by the military and that to be explored is NOT GOOD but he just won’t listen. So can we kill the little bastard for treason or convince him to change his mind anyhow?

Sorry if I miss something, it was my first playthrough.

Also I got confused with Elan being the General and our father. I might have missed something, because I got no explanation about how it is possible for Elan to shape shift into another person and vice-versa. I found the notes about the experiments going on the military facility and helped the doctor when I infiltrate the place to rescue Dena, but still seemed confuse to me. Where can I find more info about it in game? (Of course this could be my fault too, english is not my mother tongue and sometimes I have to just “presume” what some words or phrases mean. Sorry for any misunderstanding)

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My suggestion is to use an alt account for new saves.

I’m so glad my high school self decided to open so many gmail accounts now cuz this is how I deal with save categories.

hi is there any dedicated guides we can use for this game?

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how to save jolon?

It’s been a while, so I’ll have to check the code later, but I’m pretty sure that he can’t be killed unless you actually get the scene where he’s fighting and then fail in the assist.

In other words, stick with the ‘boss battle’ and don’t retreat. If you do that, then you shouldn’t be present in the scene where Jolon (and sometimes Dena) are in danger.

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Can anyone help me, how to get “A Peaceful Life? achievement?” i have no clue.

If it’s the ending I’m thinking of, you have to make an escape route before the final battle and use it. Then you have the option to retire to a cabin in the woods somewhere (with your ROs if you romanced anyone) though Sonoma will always show up to recruit you no matter which ending you get if you’re still alive at least.

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This is my first time going though the series and I like to read along the code while I play and I noticed if you have Jolon go after Bly while you take care of Tiva then in chapter 11 you can’t save her and in fact the games acts like she is not captured. Is that on purpose? Then in chapter 12 it acts like we meet Bly in 11 and saw her feral when I didn’t see her at all I’m asking to make sure it’s a bug before sending in a report

Looking into it it’s because bly_status = “jolon” never gets set to bly_status “captured”

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That’s definitely worth sending in.

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Already did with the first post though I just figure out why exactly. Should I send that in too?

I would. Might as well save him the time of having to diagnose it himself.

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How do you get the scene where your questioned by the generals at the end

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You have to get captured by the military either by willing giving you self up to talk to the ones in change if you have high military rep or being focused to if you have low rep with all groups

Edit: Looking at the code I think you can also get there by refusing to go along with the activists or public protesters but don’t quote me there :smile:

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Do you know how you pass Rivera her judgment of you she keeps saying I lack Moxie lol :laughing:

I passed by letting my character flaunt her most gung-ho, violent self because she just didn’t give a fuck anymore and wasn’t going to give an inch to play nice with the oppressor.

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Yep like AletheiaKnights said Rivera is a werewolf extremist just one with different plans then Sonoma going by book 2. Don’t think it will be anything as big as genocide or turning every one into werewolves but I could always be wrong :smile: She likes it when you play the game as a violent jerk but also still likes competence so you get points (well lose them it’s a bit weird how the check works, low points is good) for having high pack rep and for having the big battle go as well as you can. You can still lose points with her as a pacifist (Just not as many since you get 15 points for not being a killer) so long as you pass most of the checks. She doesn’t like high army rep funny enough with it being one of the more likely ways to see her but high public rep doesn’t rise her points as much.

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In my defense, I grew up in the age of THAC0. :sweat_smile:

Also, Werewolves 1’s code is… rough. It was an era before multireplace and I was pretty new to the whole thing. There are a few things I did way back in 2016 while writing it that make little sense to me, now. I like to think my coding has gotten a lot better since then.

(Thanks for the bug report, I’m looking into that this weekend, though Jason said no new Werewolves 1 patches until the prep for W3’s launch. I’ll get 'er done!)

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Don’t worry reading the code is half the fun for me :smile: and the weirdness and difference between authors is what makes them unique

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