"Werewolf: The Apocalypse — The Book of Hungry Names"—Unleash Rage and wield spirit to heal the land and rebuild your fallen pack

Why not? Silver Fangs are amazing, Albretch is such a nic guy, you should meet him, XD.
Jokes aside, the Children of Gaia Ban is about using dishonesty for personal gain, that’s not means you cannot use subterfuge at all, of course, its more easy to do in tabletop as I don’t know the extent of leniency the code have in that regard, but you can try.

After playing this game once, I have to admit, it kind of sucks that only one playstyle (Cerebral/INT) really seems viable. Most physicals get trivialized by just going wolf-mode, and Charisma-based stuff seems heavily nerfed to me, especially when comparing to another of Kyle’s games, Night Road. Especially since a good chunk of the Leadership options during fights actually use INT, not CHA. I understand that there are many, many other playstyles dependent on Tribe, gifts, etc. but, to me, INT-based characters seem much, much more viable compared to Phys and Cha-based ones. Really takes away from a lot of replay value for me.

No, see, the Children’s ban’s mechanical side in BoHN isn’t “you can’t use Subterfuge”, it’s “you can’t upgrade Subterfuge” (well, half of it; the other is that you can’t escalate arguments to gain Rage), but I already have Subterfuge maxed. I was told you get an option to “sell off” your Subterfuge, and I want to know if that selling is mandatory or if I loopholed myself into lolling at that part of ban (and the other is meaningless to me, because my first goal in every mission is seeing how I can LOWER my Rage).

I’m probably going to go Silver Fangs anyway, seeing as I can make better use of Charisma + Academics or Leadership than I can of Composure+Awareness, but it’s still good information.

I’m going to be honest, Charisma playstyle has looked sliiiiiightly more encompassing to me than an Intelligence one (well, presuming you don’t want to go Find the Answers). Going Physical is, indeed, the clear loser because you can just wolf out at people (I find myself having to find ways to lower my Rage regularly, so I presume you’ll have enough to burn if you want, especially if you go ahroun).

But you can easily work on 3-4 abilities with no issue, so I don’t think it’s particularly a problem either way.

(for reference on that last point, here’s how I currently am, having done only the three recruitment missions plus the rite to return the Wolf to Nin:)

6 Likes

I somehow got him to two dots and then lost one of them by asking a stupid question by mistake.

Summary

Don’t ask him why they did not let him fight when the time comes and you have to choose whose trauma you have to poke at. I thought it was one of those choices where you had to go through all of them and… it was not.

Sad times. :slightly_smiling_face:

4 Likes

Children of Gaia doesnt like that skill.

Well, guess thats what made them less liking me then. Oh well.

I may have to wait til Silent Striders comes out for sure then.

The other list didnt mention this skill issues?

It wasn’t. I have Subterfuge maxed and the only tribe I CAN’T join is the Bone Gnawers.

4 Likes

They are all about being sleuths, arent they?

Survival, Wits, Subterfuge, Stealth, otherwise screwed by police.

I’m pretty sure Tribes don’t filter for skills (I can join the Black Furies and my fighting skills are non-existent); they check your Convictions and MAYBE your actions throughout the game.

4 Likes

Is there a way to rebuild the statue of Falcon With Many Faces? I have enough honor to recieve the gift and the correct convictions (as well as being a Hart Warden), but the option to recieve the gift is still greyed out. If it’s just unavailable period, I’m just not gonna play Hart Warden for now lol

Oh, then they have changed it for this game, weird because the Hart Warden ban plays more or less the same, also the normal TTRPG book is using subterfuge for personal gain, not not using subterfuge at all, you can using normally, for the greater good and all that.
The change makes sense for this game because that would be too hard to code.

if that’s your character sheet, it looks like that the Children of Gaia aren’t your playstyle at all, you cannot go wrong with the Silver Fangs or the Shadowlords, really.
Glass Walkers or Bone Gnawer are two other good options too, but really, go with what you want really.

1 Like

Yes you can rebuild the statue is part of an achivement and I think that if you can do it, you can do it no matter your Tribe, probably if you have the requesite for it, but don’t remember the requesite for doing so, sorry.
For learning the gift, you need to rebuild the statue first, so one thing lean into the other.

No idea. There was a list but honestly it doesnt seem correct. There was also a way to check codes but didnt work for me.

It would be better to see actual numbers required to be accepted. Then i can see who actually will want me in my own play style instead of trying to fit into its little box of acceptances.

I know the Falcon liked my Honor or Glory.

I have high honor, glory and wisdom I guess?! shrug

I’m still testing it, but I THINK you need money, aka free days of training available. (I’m hoping you can earn money outside of the recruitment missions, because I also need money for clothes for the Nin date)

2 Likes

Thats cute! Hope you get the money!

Nin is fucking SAVAGE, now I want that money for clothes for the date even more, holy hell:

4 Likes

I’m so enamored by Nin and Podge to be honest, they’re very funny to watch in action but there’s little peeks into other aspects of their characters throughout those funny scenes that really make me wanna know more about them… Which is to say I need to do another playthrough before the Monday update. :saluting_face:

7 Likes

You can get it, to fix the statue you need to have Melodie or mechanics be more than 0 and to meet Lucinda.

2 Likes

Thank you for the advice, much appreciated! I had a feeling that’s what Find the Answers was all about. I guess it’s just hard for me to choose between being curious and not wanting to die. I’m always that person who asks all the optional questions in roleplaying video games like Dragon Age, so it’s a little difficult to adapt my playstyle to that. I normally don’t have that issue with other CoG games, but there’s just something about this one I find challenging. I’m probably gonna have to start over at this rate since I’ve messed up my Convictions pretty hard, I’ve been struggling with the consistency.

In most other CoG games you can run down the dialogue trees no problem. You can’t in BoHN, and I’m starting to wonder if it’s because they all affect Convictions, and therefore you can’t be allowed to run through their entirety, Convictions being, as they are, a very relevant game stat.

Let me know if you need more info on Convictions (bonus tip: the food you pick at the diner very early on is a Conviction choice), I think I have the things figured out by now.

If this is the case, you might want to wait for the next patch, on Monday, cos the game is pretty big and that’s gonna be a rollback-to-the-beginning-of-the-chapter patch (and you might as well play it with some more bugs/consistency hiccups fixed).

2 Likes

I think I found the way to get the money. It involves literally selling myself:

Thanks. That means I’d have wasted about 2/3 of the use of Manipulation, so I guess I made the right call going Silver Fangs.

4 Likes