Well, as a main Adam-mancer, I played the demo and was pleasantly surprised! Adam is definitely not cold, actively seeks out the MC, and you even have the opportunity to call him out on some of his bullshit. Of course the conversation gets interrupted, but still. Hopefully MC gave him something to think about. 
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Yeah, thatās a big chunk of the issue. It has been THREE BOOKS of this. One book would be ābut we mustnātā, which Iām not a fan of when it comes out of the blue like that, but, yāknow, it might be stomachable, but it has since fully morphed into ābut we mustnāt, but I want to, so Iām just going to yank your chain for absolutely no payoff for you because Iām still going to treat like but we mustnātā ever since AT LEAST the end of B2 (arguably earlier than that, when A wears perfume and new clothes for a mission into a freaking sewer, but letās put the point there).
Anyway, Iām just in it for M now, and a sightseeing excursion into F as a sidedish.
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The pacing on Aās romance has sucked ass. Mās stupidity is forced and overdone to drag shit out, but A is justā¦ bad. And I found him grating in the new demo.
As a bff, A is the bomb, however. So is M.
Iām in it for M now, too. I canāt stomach F because of the way they act on M and Aās routes, though. I used to just find F to behave like an annoying younger sibling who was never taught any manners. Now I think he gets off on actively trying to destroy an M-mancerās life.
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Ugh I really want to read the demo nowwww 
obviously have to wait until the public version bc have to save money for vacation/upcoming wedding lmao.
If I persuade my partner to just elope maybe I can sign up for patreon though 
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Well, you get it on the $5 tier, so if you signed up for a month, then quit, you could get it (and everything else you want). I save everything I want to keep from my Patreons, even though I typically stay on indefinitely. Unless they totally suck or donāt deliver anything at all, anyway. Or if I get short on cash, lol.
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Congratulations! 
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Yeah, as A mancer, I feel the writing of Aās in three books just become stagnant. Or is it me that feels the writing getting nowhere? The plot is just the same and Iām baffled by this, I like to see where this is going butā¦ idk I feel bored maybeā¦
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I totally agree. Also having them not meet each other for a few monthsā¦ I am sorry but thatās just not how relationships work.
Especially since some of the detectives and their ROs are in a relationship. Like how does it make sense that they work together in the same teamā¦ Life together in the same housing and donāt see each other for monthsā¦
I am not even a N or F mancer and even I donāt buy they would stay away.
It really feels like she is just trying to stretch out a story and the romance by all means. We donāt have to play ever single interaction between them. In contrary having some off screen interactions in cannon with the routes helps build the relationship. Or are you telling me that the only interactions we had with the ROs are the ones we have played through. Then that would imply there is really nothing but soulmate stuff and that is not enough reason to deal with everything going on in universe?
Thank you
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Read the demo for A and M and thoughts are thoughting
SPOILERS AHEAD FOR BOOK 4 DEMO
I honestly love it? How it fares in the future is a different thing, but as of now things fall in place very well. For Aās route I love how even though itās perfect on paper with the openness of A and all the cute moments, it still doesnāt sit right. Itās like a sweet dream, where youāre enjoying things, but it doesnāt quite go to your heart because at the end itās not real. I get that many people didnāt like the uncanny feeling of Aās route, but I personally think it makes a lot of sense, like it will keep piling up and the reality will just burst at some point (hopefully). One thing I did think could have been done better was the confrontational route, where you tell A to stop playing. Each time we just miraculously get interrupted, why even give us the option then? and in all the options the MC is too soft. way too soft. I wanted the first meeting after that scene with A to be very awkward and painful for my mc, even though sheās understanding, but it was far too giggly to my liking. For Mās route, what a beauty, hand in marriage. Iām beyond excited to see how it unfurls, considering how his dumb bitch mode hasnāt been activated (evilchani will rip someoneās hair out if that happens, Iām sure XD). I kind of think it might not get activated actually, call me crazy. Lastly, the main plot ALSO seems good, I hope the mc actually gets to kick ass now, throughout the book. The electric thingy seems very interesting. I do wish the demo was longer, because the RO content is sparse.
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Putting everything under the cut, because itās spoileryā¦
Summary
Honestly, I did as well, but Iāve been burned so many times by this series that I automatically squash any excitement to keep away the disappointment that will rear its head when everything goes to hell and we go back to the shitty pacing, forced drama, and tweeny bullshit that will inevitably be shoved down our throats. I guess the bottom line is that I donāt trust Sera anymoreābetween her tumblr posts, her derogatory attitude toward M (with them being her least favorite of the four), the fact that the plot of b3 was a clusterfuck, and her love of forced drama that makes no sense, I just canāt jump into this book with any sort of faith that it will go well, no matter how good the first chapter was (there were still issues, in my opinion, but they are mostly minor and could be easily remedied, if she wanted to do so).
I guess youāre right about that. It shouldnāt sit right, given how b3 ended. Logically, the MC and A shouldnāt even be in this situationāafter the way b3 ended, MC shouldāve been transferred to a different team, because answering to the guy who fucked with your head for six months, then asked to kiss you to get over it, is not a tenable working situation. Howeverā¦
This is my issue with it, and why I still donāt like Aās route. The MC is forced into being a doormat, even if they decide to voice their displeasure at Aās new version of head games (even if A thinks they arenāt playing head games anymore because they were āhonestā, they are and itās wrong). The MC should be able to push A away, at this point. They should be able to tell A exactly what the issue is and that they will be professional and thatās it. āWe arenāt friends. We arenāt lovers. You wanted distance? You got it, buddy. Learn to respect it, or Iāll go to HR.ā
Let A work for it if they want the MC. Let them see how it feels to be shut out the way they shut out the MC constantly, only without the head games A played. Let them earn their spot in MCās life, which they should have to do after jerking them around for months on end.
Yes, Iāll be ripping out someoneās hair when M goes back into dumbfuck mode again, but my reasoning is this: IT MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE!
The way M behaves in the demo fits with where they were at the end of b3. Itās perfect. Itās how it should be. M supposedly doesnāt fight their feelings, and they arenāt, in the demo. The problem is the idea that M doesnāt know how they feel. It looks to me like M knows exactly what they want, if not the exact words to describe it, which isnāt a problem. It coincides with the idea that M āwouldāve knownā had the MC told them they loved them in chapter 14 of b3.
To have M backtrack, at this point, is unfathomable. I suppose it boils down to what Mishka means by āM still has no clue how they feelā. Does it mean M doesnāt understand that loving relationships come in different varieties, and it doesnāt always come in the āI want to take you to dinner/dancing/movieā? If thatās the case, it makes senseāM thinks āloveā = your typical romantic crap, and M isnāt into that and never will be, so they may know they āloveā the MC, but itās not what itās āsupposedā to be, according to society, so thereās a disconnect. M saying, āI donāt know how to be in a romantic relationship and saying the word romantic makes my mouth hurtā makes a whole lot of sense. M saying, āI have no clue how I feel about MCā does not.
That would be nice! I just figure it will, since Sera kept hammering how fucking stupid M still is about ātheir feelingsā.
Thatās another thing Iām not going to get my hopes up for. That and the thing they donāt, err, remember? That would make for an incredible setup for this installment, but I donāt think either one of them will last.
I agree about the length. I copy/pasted my first Dezh run into a word doc and it was 6100 words. I couldāve done without the Tina/Verda crap, because I just donāt care.
As for the sparse romance content, given that weāve been told there will be a lot of other POVs in this one, Iām expecting that to continue.
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Does the demo allow to load a save from B3 or is it still questions to set variables at this point?
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Just questions. There are a lot of them, but they donāt account for everything. Dezh somehow got to be optimistic, which sheās not. So I downloaded the code, and created Dezh as a pre-made character with all of her actual stats.
Even the pre-made characters she included are just random.
Edited to add:
One thing she did for the character creator that was really cool was that now your MCās top skill is set at 90, so if there are skill checks in the demo, they should pass. The second highest skill is set at 70 or 75. Canāt remember which.
I will say this: if your MC has people skills, they will notice something in the demo that no one else will. I think combat shouldāve picked up on it, too (or maybe the check for combat shouldāve been high while the people skill couldāve gotten it with a lower stat). Just my opinion, though.
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Holy cow. Another person who thinks MC is a doormat when it comes to A getting away with all them mind games. I can almost predict Aās route before evening playing the book. The author seems to have a formula lol.
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Iām nearly at the point that I might give up on this series for good if Misha keeps on dragging out the whole A āromance.ā One book of that was fine by me but three and possibly four of that? No thanks, thatās how you can lose fans and itās kind of hard for me to stomach this because A is the entire reason why I got into Wayhaven.
I might stick it out for Morgan but even thatās reaching its limits for myself
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My bet is that A will commit to the MC by the end of b4, and you can be in a relationship with them going forward.
After reading the demo, Iām convinced F is about to drop the l-bomb on the MC, or the MC will be allowed to drop it first. Probably within a few chapters.
By the end of b4, all LIs except M will be in an established relationship and will have said āI love youā to each other.
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Iāve played the demo and I will say that it hasnāt been months, just a few weeks at the most. At least when it comes to N. You can even start the demo with a scene of actually waking up in bed with him. The reasoning is that MC has been pretty busy with training and orientation to get ready for their new agent role. Which imo seems fairly reasonable to me.
Does it? Does it really? Does the performance of Agents so far suggest that any of these people have been through fruitful training, outside of the medical staff?
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Even ignoring the fact that the agents at the facility donāt appear to actually be trained in a worthwhile mannerā¦
- Training is not 24/7.
- Vampires can travel faster than cars and the facility is only an hour away.
The vampires could have gone to see the MC at the facility, assuming they were staying there through training. And, if the MC wasnāt at the facility, then the LI couldāve dragged their happy ass over to the MCās apartment for a vist. Or at leaste texted or called them.
Instead, the MC ceases to exist during this time. And during the two months between b2 and b3. Them not bothering to contact the MC between b1 and b2 is at least understandable, since they donāt really know them, but the rest? Sorry, Iām calling bullshit on it.
I just read through Nās scene because I saw someone make a comment on it on patreon and now Iām kinda pissed off.
N-mancers get everything handed to them on a silver platter. Want sex? N is a sex god/dess and you can bang when you wanna bang and get detailed scenes, followed by N being the āperfectā bf/gf. Meanwhile, M-mancers get the āwe boned last nightā choice and a very brief sweet scene. N gets half a goddammed novelette, where just their scene is longer than Mās entire fucking chapter.
I see how itās gonna be. Iām willing to bet F gets a nice long, involved scene, too. Iāll know tonight because my husband wants to play in the car on the way home.
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I more so meant the not seeing your partner much for a few months vs a few weeks, not the training part. There have definitely been times where even my spouse and I have been too busy with stuff to be able to spend much time together.
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The question is if that is what you would want your romance to be made about to catch a reader.
Also some people donāt appreciate that every book basically starts that way.
It feels like artificially stretching the romance out.
Oh you havenāt seen each other a few months. Now you need to rekindle. Go over start and collect 200$
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