The Soul Stone War General Discussion Thread (Romance And Stones Guide on #6)

It sound like a gamble…I rather refuse the dalish Torc though. Unless it turn Mr fang into an egghead Solas… :smirk:

Beside we only know that the Torc block him. Who know what kind of powers he wield, and what artifact he has that he can use to bypass that. Also…Lying God…nope. I take mah chance with mah inner gift and drunkness…

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Ah Manerkol as Solas. I 100% appreciate that :triumph: Yes Manerkol, let’s tear down the fade together.

It’s totally a gamble. I can’t wait to see how it plays out in the sequel!!!

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But if the MC’s abilities grow to that extent and they don’t learn to control it, then they’re that much more susceptible to Manerkol invading their mind…maybe even to the point where he can get in ther mind while they’re awake…:grimacing:

But yes, definitely a gamble either way :sweat_smile: Manerkol becoming the Egg™ would low-key be incredible lmao :joy::joy:

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Indeed.

As someone who plays these games to have stories with the type of protagonists that I enjoy which I can sculpt according to my personal moe, the prospect of pervi—I mean, witnessing the MC suffering prettily is music to my ears.

Also, I’ll likely keep on choosing the Stone of pragmatism for these accepting the Torc runs which will hopefully result in ammunition for the mindscrew on the MC! Opposing stats and all that…

Mindscrew, it’s like manna from heaven.

EDIT : By ammunition, I mean that being mindscrewed for your mistakes will hopefully sound punchier on that combination, not that I expect Morgan to write variations just for it lol.

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If I Go 4 Wit & Use A Weapon That Is Connected With Wit Would I Need Points In Combat Prowess 2 Use My Wit Weapon Better Or Just Raise Wit Stat? Also Will There B A Save Game Option Put In? & Last Is There No Way 2 Avoid Not Bonding With Ur Stone Right Away Just Cuz Of What Was Said About Fighting Will Weaken Its Power & Was Wondering If There Was A Way 2 Have It’s Full Power & Not Have It Weakened? Much Appreciated!

We will have to agree to disagree about this being an “extremely good” ratio, I’m afraid. And the same as to the latter, it seems. I genuinely would prefer more dialogue or introspection choices, even if they only affect perhaps a few lines of the following dialogue (if that) or a small stat change. It would cut down the amount of times your MC is taken through an emotional arc by the narrative, and a choice of flavour between dialogues that all come down to the same thing would go a long way towards giving a feeling of control over the MC and their personality in moment-to-moment decisions.

And in book 2 I do genuinely hope that will be different! I would love to be happily surprised on this. But as it stands right now, there is no book 2, and book 1 has to stand on its own. As an entry into a series, yes, but it still has to be a satisfying and rounded read on its own because for now it’s all that there is and therefore this read is the book that will influence how people judge the series.

Unfortunately, despite all the points you mentioned, I maintain that I think this book didn’t have enough of a pay-off for all the struggles the MC goes through to feel satisfying and like anything was achieved other than us being yanked along to where the author wants us to be.

While I see the point you are trying to make and where you are coming from, describing the main conflict to overcome in book one as one that the player has 0 input on does not help your case I’m afraid. To me, it only highlights the lack of agency I’m talking about.

ahhh yeah, makes sense; I could see that he truly wanted to open but was holding up. I understand. I dont remember tho if you said that in the general discussion before but, anyone you don’t get to romance in the first book, will you be able to keep trying in the second book or that oporunity window is closed? thank you :slight_smile:

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Friendly reminder that personal opinion ≠ constructive criticism.

You are free to express your opinion but do not frame it as criticism. I see a lot of people mixing these up, and frankly, it’s quite exhausting to watch.

This is not directed at anyone in particular just a general occurence I’ve seen a lot on these discussion boards lately, not only on this thread.

Also, can people please for goodness sake stop comparing things to Wayhaven!! I’ve seen this a lot as well and it annoys me to no end.

Wayhaven is a fantastic work of fiction for sure but at the end of the day you are comparing two completely separate creative visions.

Anyway, that’s all, cheers.

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Agreed! If you personally don’t like the writing style or structure of a novel, that’s okay! However, that doesn’t mean you can criticize a novel for not following the structure you’d best prefer. There are plenty of other stories and not all of them have to fit you :blush:

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I was going to give a very long answer to @Celtic_Rune, but I see @Vox has made an excellent post with many good points!

Therefor, there’s only a few things I wanted to add, if you guys don’t mind :sweat_smile:

I think the comparisons between WH and any other HG that has a heavy focus on romance are very unnecessary and extremely innacurate. That something has romance, doesn’t mean that still belongs to a similar genre. Like historic movies, for example! You can have historic movies based on many different time periods, and they can be more humorous, more dramatic, etc etc, same thing applies to romance games :slight_smile:

What I want to get to with that example, is to point out that not all genres need to have the same weight in the plot and the decisions on them. I love WH! A lot, at that! Is a very lovely game! And I think it did a very good job at being what it is! Which is a series of more easy going emotions and plot! When you have a game like WH, giving a looooot of choices becomes much more simpler, I think, because said choices have no weight at all on the plot, but when you have a game like TSSW in which we are literally! Deciding the destiny of the world, you can’t give as much freedom and make it as meaninfull (unless you are a very crazy author and want to give lots of branches, I guess hehe).

In my humble opinion, I think that at the end, this really fall into personal tastes :). I really like more set MC’s because I feel like it makes their story much more powerful than if they are a blank character left to headcanon. Morgan made the decision of making this character a more set one, and is a decision I am very grateful of :slight_smile:

As a last note, I really wish there were more games with set MCs that give you a strong sense of who they are. And I know comparisions are not good, so excuse me for doing one more :sweat_smile:, but another game that has a very set MC Is FH, and I think Sidestep is amazing!

And now, to take it back to TSSW!!! :smiley:

I am very intrigues about our intuition :O, I did a run having it as high as possible and it gives you some very interesting insight on bits of info I totally missed before!! I can’t wait to see more about it, so I think I’m going to be doing more runs on different routes and see what more bits of info I find!

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@Luana_Bellotti Every RO will have intimate scenes throughout the story. Some will get them quicker than others (as you saw with Daelynn) but all of them will get them nonetheless. There’s no need to worry about that😁

@MissRagdoll I’m afraid you can only lock the romances in during the first book. If you haven’t done so already, there won’t be an option to continue your romance in the second game.

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I noticed that too!! It’s another thing that makes you want to replay the game a billion times for every route.

As an aside, you made a really good point about considering everything with romance the same genre. You’re totally right that TWC has a completely different tone and levity than TSSW. But yes, enough about that! :blush:

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I FINALLY GOT THE CHANCE TO PLAY!! Of course I’m going with Straasa and Morkai, let’s see how this goes!

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I have been investigating, and I find Manerkol’s romance to be sooo amazing with high intuition!

Also… I just finished my Elly romance route, and I found something very interesting on it… But I think I want to see if other people reaches the same conclusion as I did once they play her route!

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:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

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Any MC romancing Manerkol has to have high intuition imo! It makes things super interesting. Otherwise you’re majorly missing out.

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Finished first playthrough and it’s already officially now in my top 3 favorite cog/hosted games.:heart: The RO’s (especially poly options) and different variations of choices is what I truly love (can’t wait!) to make me want to replay this many times!! @Morgan_V Thank you for creating such an amazing story!:bowing_woman:t2::sparkling_heart:

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I wonder how much I’d ruin the atmosphere if I change my swear word to “By the High King’s Tits” when I do my Manerkol run… :thinking:

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Assuming he can still read your mind when you are not in the dream realm, yes it would ruin the atmosphere A LOT.

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Okay, I will give you guys a hint… In Elly’s route, in the discussion with Elkoth lies a hint… hdbsdgbklsdkjgb I probably shouldn’t be doing this, but I want to see if you can figure it out! It’s huuuuuuuuge! And no, cursing with “by the High King’s tits” will NOT earn you any romance points with Manerkol :rofl:

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