Keeper of the Sun and Moon (Discussion)

so i was with 30 stats if fighting and didn’t save kol and the drakaina subplot with the nymphs is kinda cool

Thalia is definitely my favorite, but Yakov is a close second.

Yakov: gets held at knifepoint

Yakov:

https://goo.gl/images/EuvHDm

He’s so calm.

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finally someone that like yakov thats not rare but yakov do not receive many attention in this tread

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Same sentiment, I can’t give up on Astrid! Leon can be our pet. My MC can post their photo in the group chat captioned like “my gf keeps fighting with our cat, how cute”
Part of me is intrigued by the love triangle it would cause though. If the angst is written well I will try it.

Thank you for the response! I think fox spirit would be more universally understood. I don’t know how to explain this, to me it’s like calling the French dish escargot by its German name “schnecke”, while other than escargot itself an English phrase like “garlic butter snails” would be better. But that’s just me, please don’t feel the need to apologise, your brainchild, your choice.

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Achievement Guide

If anything is wrong or hard to understand feel free to tell me. Be warned there are spoilers and the whole thing might be a little messy.

Summary

Punch Magic

Summary

Choose the punch option in either of these chapters

Ch 1
punch harpy in simulation with Astrid

Ch 3
punch Briseis

Ch 5
punch Hydra or Manticore

Ch 13
punch “Reyna”

On the Hunt

Summary

Become a hunter in Ch 5 by choosing human as your species and ditch your suitemates

Either low or high resistance works (resistant < 70) or (resistant >= 60)

You Were Warned

Summary

Ditch your suitemates in Ch 5 if you’re either Cambion,Nephilim,Drakaina,Elemental,Kitsune, or Magician and have resistant >=60

Weight of the World

Summary

Stop Town Hall from collapsing with any of these stats
(willpower >= 20)
(elemental >= 30) fire,lightning,darkness
(elemental >= 25) ice
(elemental >= 20) light

Mind Control Eyes

Summary

Don’t kill Reyna and have willpower < 15

Prison Break

Summary

Don’t kill Reyna and If your lawful is < 35 you will automatically go to her.

Good Role Model

Summary

Never use compulsion by avoiding options in italics.

Staying Alive

Summary

Use your lowest stats in the final battle.

We Are the Champions

Summary

Don’t save Kol and have any of these stats

1st Round
(fighting >= 30) and choose the punch option
(fighting >= 15) if human you can use your gun
(fighting >= 10) if you have a combustion potion
(willpower >= 30) illusion manipulation for Kitsune
(elemental >= 30)
(telekinesis >= 20)
(ritualpotions >= 20) if your a magician or if you have MorphMetal
DON’T CHOOSE #Don’t do this, Reyna. (it will drop your health regardless of your willpower stat)

2nd Round
Run or fly out of the way
Create a shield of ice
Redirect the fire if elemental >= 35
Use your energy shield and have fighting and intelligence >=15

3rd Round
Have any of these stats

elemental >= 25 or >= 15
fighting >= 15 or >= 10 if you are human and use your gun
fighting >= 30
willpower >= 20 or >= 10
willpower >= 10 or < 10 if you are a cambion

Not Even Your Birthday

Summary

There are a couple different ways to get this but this is what worked for me for all races.

-Get your suitemates relationship to at least 60
-don’t romance any of your suitemates before Ch 5
-for human hunters Jarrod is an automatic +1 present
-focus on raising relationship to 60 with Cressida and Gisela
-focus on raising Altair’s relationship to 60 if you’re not a hunter
-having your logical stat greater than 50 might be required to raise Gisela’s relationship by Ch 7

Magi Route
Ch 1

  • ask Astrid if you can be alone and choose thanks for Cressida relationship boost
  • select yes when asked if the simulation has been explained to you
  • select let’s start in the simulation
  • select to move in front of Yakov to get a big relationship boost

Ch 2

  • ask what other classes are you taking
  • choose ritual magic and potions for your classes
  • choose to learn more about Yakov when asking about your other suitemates this allows you to ask him about the difference between cambions and wraiths
  • if you’re not rooming with Leon choose Astrid, back off to raise his relationship other wise just tell them both of them to stop
  • choose hi, everyone when Thalia and Yakov show up
  • talk to all your suitemates
  • if not rooming with Leon when going into his room say I wanted to talk to you
  • when talking to Thalia and Kol select “Kol, I hope you understand that if I need tutoring in shifting, I’m coming to you.” and go through the rest of the options until you leave their room
  • if not rooming with Leon when going into his room say you wanted to talk to him and choose “What’s the deal with all the nephilim-cambion stuff anyway?”
  • when talking to Yakov don’t pick what was your life like and what are your powers
  • select what’s the difference between cambions and wraiths
  • when eating dinner with your suitemates don’t choose I’d rather not say

Ch 3

  • check out why Astrid is screaming
  • select “What the hell did you do to piss off a dragon?!”
  • DON’T CHOOSE To Kol, “Is dragon on the menu today?”
  • choose Please don’t read my mind without my permission.
  • choose to stay up instead of going back to sleep
  • eat breakfast with Thalia
  • ask her what happened with Astrid and Seraphina this morning and choose either That’s stupid or I still want a dragon then choose see you later
  • explore the school and talk to the girls on the lawns (Katia and Gisela)
  • choose Sure, it’ll be fun when you get back to the dorm
  • talk to Seraphina at the restaurant
  • talk to Leon in the bus
  • talk to Astrid and Leon’s group at the party
  • choose either it’s been amazing or it’s been all right when Cressida asks you what it was like to learn about your powers
  • choose what do you do for the winter solstice
  • draw Leon into a side conversation
  • say both seemed great

Ch 4

  • after finding out your species talk to Gisela and Katia
  • in ritual magic class don’t doodle in your notebook
  • in potions class join Kol and Altair on quizzing each other
    • if your intelligence is >= 15 you can get an extra boost to Altair’s relationship if you answer correctly

Ch 5

  • don’t pass out at the practical exam
  • intervene when Astrid and Leon interrogate Ebner
  • head back to campus
  • talk to Leon, Cressida and Cyrus
  • ask how Cressida has been
  • choose “Better now that I’ve found a friendly face.” when she asks you how you’ve been
  • choose it sounds fun when she asks you about the solstice
  • choose either we should hang out more or do you have any suggestions on what to wear

Ch 7

  • if your intelligence < 20 raise your hand or let Seraphina answer then choose New Magi City if intelligence > 10
  • talk to Seraphina, Katia, and Gisela instead of studying
  • choose I can help
    • if your logical is > 50 you get a relationship boost
  • if you hang out with your suitemates ask about the cambion artifact theft
  • choose nothing’s secure if someone wants it enough

Ch 8

  • if your cunning is >= 10 but not > 25 don’t choose to go to Petrova’s office
  • at the nymph training session choose I have just the fight simulation in mind
  • choose why do you put up with her games in the first place
  • choose you all did good today
  • in your ritual magic exam heat the mirror

Hunter Route

Ch 1

  • ask Astrid if you can be alone and choose thanks for Cressida relationship boost
  • select yes when asked if the simulation has been explained to you
  • select let’s start in the simulation
  • select to move in front of Yakov to get a big relationship boost

Ch 2

  • choose what other classes am I taking
  • choose to learn more about Yakov when asking about your other suitemates this allows you to ask him about the difference between cambions and wraiths
  • choose potions instead of combat
  • if you’re not rooming with Leon choose Astrid, back off to raise his relationship other wise just tell them both of them to stop
  • choose hi, everyone when Thalia and Yakov show up
  • talk to all your suitemates
  • if not rooming with Leon when going into his room say you wanted to talk to him and choose “What’s the deal with all the nephilim-cambion stuff anyway?”
  • when talking to Thalia and Kol go through the rest of the options until you leave their room
  • when talking to Yakov don’t pick what was your life like and what are your powers
  • select what’s the difference between cambions and wraiths
  • choose definitely not the food or meeting new people
  • DON’T CHOOSE I’d rather not say when asked for your species

Ch 3

  • check out why Astrid is screaming
  • select “What the hell did you do to piss off a dragon?!”
  • DON’T CHOOSE To Kol, “Is dragon on the menu today?”
  • choose Please don’t read my mind without my permission.
  • choose to stay up instead of going back to sleep
  • eat breakfast with Thalia
  • ask her what happened with Astrid and Seraphina this morning and choose either That’s stupid or I still want a dragon then choose see you later
  • explore the school and talk to the girls on the lawns (Katia and Gisela)
  • choose Sure, it’ll be fun when you get back to the dorm
  • talk to Seraphina at the restaurant
  • talk to Leon in the bus
  • talk to Astrid and Leon’s group at the party
  • choose either it’s been amazing or it’s been all right when Cressida asks you what it was like to learn about your powers
  • choose what do you do for the winter solstice
  • draw Leon into a side conversation
  • say both seemed great

Ch 4

  • after finding out your species talk to Gisela and Katia
  • if you took potions class join Kol and Altair on quizzing each other
    • if your intelligence is >= 15 you can get an extra boost to Altair’s relationship if you answer correctly

Ch 5

  • head back to campus
  • talk to Leon, Cressida and Cyrus
  • ask how Cressida has been
  • choose “Better now that I’ve found a friendly face.” when she asks you how you’ve been
  • choose it sounds fun when she asks you about the solstice
  • choose either we should hang out more or do you have any suggestions on what to wear

Ch 6

  • choose Thalia and Jarrod as your teachers
  • head to the street fair with Astrid, Seraphina, and Yakov
  • don’t buy the wish candle
  • go to the makeshift duelist arena
  • choose they put on a good show

Ch 7

  • if your intelligence < 20 raise your hand or let Seraphina answer than choose New Magi City if intelligence > 10
  • talk to Seraphina, Katia, and Gisela instead of studying
  • choose I can help
    • if your logical is > 50 you get a relationship boost
  • hang out with suitemates
  • ask about the cambion artifact theft
  • choose nothing’s secure if someone wants it enough

Ch 8

  • at the nymph training session choose I have just the fight simulation in mind
  • choose why do you put up with her games in the first place
  • choose you all did good today

Human Non Hunter Route

Ch 1

  • don’t ditch Astrid and say Hi I’m… to Altair

Ch 2

  • choose what other classes am I taking
  • choose to learn more about Yakov when asking about your other suitemates this allows you to ask him about the difference between cambions and wraiths
  • choose potions instead of combat
  • if you’re not rooming with Leon choose Astrid, back off to raise his relationship other wise just tell them both of them to stop
  • choose hi, everyone when Thalia and Yakov show up
  • talk to all your suitemates
  • if not rooming with Leon when going into his room say you wanted to talk to him and choose “What’s the deal with all the nephilim-cambion stuff anyway?”
  • when talking to Thalia and Kol go through the rest of the options until you leave their room
  • when talking to Yakov don’t pick what was your life like and what are your powers
  • select what’s the difference between cambions and wraiths
  • choose definitely not the food or meeting new people
  • DON’T CHOOSE I’d rather not say when asked for your species

Ch 3

  • check out why Astrid is screaming
  • select “What the hell did you do to piss off a dragon?!”
  • don’t choose To Kol, “Is dragon on the menu today?”
  • choose Please don’t read my mind without my permission.
  • choose to stay up instead of going back to sleep
  • eat breakfast with Thalia
  • ask her what happened with Astrid and Seraphina this morning and choose either That’s stupid or I still want a dragon then choose see you later
  • explore the school and talk to the girls on the lawns (Katia and Gisela)
  • choose Sure, it’ll be fun when you get back to the dorm
  • talk to Yakov at the restaurant
  • talk to Leon in the bus if both Kol and Thalia are at 60 already
  • talk to Astrid and Leon’s group at the party
  • choose either it’s been amazing or it’s been all right when Cressida asks you what it was like to learn about your powers
  • choose what do you do for the winter solstice
  • draw Leon into a side conversation
  • say both seemed great

Ch 4

  • after finding out your species talk to Gisela and Katia
  • if you took potions class join Kol and Altair on quizzing each other
    • if your intelligence is >= 15 you can get an extra boost to Altair’s relationship if you answer correctly

Ch 5

  • don’t pass out at the practical exam
  • intervene when Astrid and Leon interrogate Ebner
  • head back to campus
  • talk to Leon, Cressida and Cyrus
  • ask how Cressida has been
  • choose “Better now that I’ve found a friendly face.” when she asks you how you’ve been
  • choose it sounds fun when she asks you about the solstice
  • choose either we should hang out more or do you have any suggestions on what to wear

Ch 6

  • choose Thalia and Jarrod as your teachers
  • head to the street fair with Astrid, Seraphina, and Yakov
  • don’t buy the wish candle
  • go to the makeshift duelist arena
  • choose they put on a good show

Ch 7

  • if your intelligence < 20 raise your hand or let Seraphina answer than choose New Magi City if intelligence > 10
  • talk to Seraphina, Katia, and Gisela instead of studying
  • choose I can help
    • if your logical is > 50 you get a relationship boost
  • hang out with suitemates
  • ask about the cambion artifact theft
  • choose I’m sure that’s what the cambions thought too

Ch 8

  • at the nymph training session choose I have just the fight simulation in mind
  • choose why do you put up with her games in the first place
  • choose you all did good today

President’s List

Summary

All grades must be >= 85

-High intelligence and reading books at the library help
-Having Ritual Magic and Potions together also help
-choose the study option as much as you can and do all your homework

Monsters & Rogue
-Pay attention and take notes in Ebner’s class
-Use starbursts for the Ebner’s practical in Ch 5
-having fire manipulation is helpful for the gnomes and manticore
-lightning manipulation is helpful for the hydra
-having telekinesis > 5 or fighting > 5 is helpful for both the hydra and manticore
-after the practical stop Astrid and Leon from interrogating Ebner
-answers in written test are C,E,B

-for the simulation part have any of these stats
willpower >= 20 or willpower >= 10 and willpower < 20
willpower < 10
willpower >= 5 kitsune illusion
elemental >= 25
elemental >= 15 ice manipulation
elemental >= 15 and elemental < 25
elemental < 15 ice manipulation
fighting >= 30
fighting >= 20 and fighting < 30
fighting >= 15 and fighting < 30
fighting >= 10 and fighting < 20
telekinesis > 15
telekinesis > 7 and telekinesis <= 15
ritualpotions > 20
ritualpotions >= 10 and ritualpotions < 20
ritualpotions > 10 and intelligence > 10

  • cambion, nephilim, and drakaina can increase their flying ability by practicing with Cressida, Cyrus, or Leon and riding the dragons in Ch 6 if you want to use your flight ability to pass the test

World Cultures

  • choose A. 11th Century for World Cultures
    • have intelligence >= 15
      intelligence >= 10 and cunning >= 5
      intelligence >= 10) and intelligence < 15 (this decreases grade by 7)

Elemental Manipulation

  • choose E for the written part

    • have any of these for intelligence
      intelligence >= 30
      intelligence >= 15 and cunning >= 15
      intelligence >= 20 and intelligence < 30 (this decreases grade by 3)
      intelligence < 20 and intelligence >= 10 (this decreases grade by 5)
  • for the practical portion have any of these stats if fighting Leon
    willpower >= 10
    elemental >= 12 darkness manipulation
    elemental >= 15
    elemental >= 20 light manipulation
    cunning > 15 kitsune illusion manipulation or telekinesis
    telekinesis >= 10

  • if your fighting Thalia
    willpower >= 10
    telekinesis >= 18
    cunning > 15 telekinesis
    elemental >= 30 peripheral elements
    elemental >= 20

Magic Theory
-have intelligence < 20 and intelligence >= 10
-don’t choose Um, or “It makes sense that magi consider the side effects of their magic use.”

Magic Resistance

  • have willpower >= 5 in Ch 7
  • have willpower >= 25 or willpower >= 20 and willpower < 25 by the time of the test

Telekinesis

  • in Ch 4 have telekinesis >= 2
  • in Ch 7 have telekinesis >= 10
  • on the day of the exam use as little power as possible
    • have telekinesis > 20
      telekinesis <= 20 and telekinesis >= 15
      telekinesis < 15 and telekinesis >= 10 (this decreases grade by 5)

Ritual Magic

  • heat the mirror
  • have ritualpotions >= 20 or
    ritualpotions < 20 and ritualpotions >= 15 (decreases grade by 5)

Combat

  • kick him in the shin
    -have fighting >= 20 or
    fighting >= 15 and fighting < 20 (decreases grade by 5)

Potions

  • use deionized water
  • have ritualpotions >= 20 or
    ritualpotions < 20 and ritualpotions >= 15 (decreases grade by 5)

All Bark and No Bite

Summary

Have your elemental >= 25 or fighting >= 15 if your human

Running Won’t Save You

Summary

Have your resistant stat be > 55 and choose to escape in Ch 3

Hidden Achievements

Summary

Shame If Something Happened…

Summary

Have your relationship with Kol >= 75 or cunning >= 25 by Ch 12

A Family Affair

Summary

Go to Petrova’s office in Ch 8 and have your cunning >=10

or

Have Seraphina or Yakov as your RO in Ch 11

The Hunter

Summary

Become a hunter and automatically find out Jarrod is the hunter in Ch 6

or

Go on break with Thalia and Jarrod in Ch 10

First Impressions

Summary

You can get this achievement in any of these chapters

Ch 3
Talk to Davina in if resistant >= 60 and ask her about Astrid

Ch 6
If your RO is Astrid she will reveal her secret

Ch 9
If you watch the movie with Astrid,Kol, and Cressida and your relationship with Astrid is >= 60 she will tell you her secret

Ch 10
If you go on break with Astrid and Altair listen in on their conversation

All I Ask of You

Summary

Have your relationship with Altair >= 60 and cunning > 20 by Ch 12

Somebody Told Me

Summary

Have cunning > 25 in Ch 11

Nightmares

Summary

In Ch 11 if your relationship with Katia is >= 60 or she is your RO you will find out her secret

Successor

Summary

You automatically get this in Ch 12

Danny Dearest

Summary

Investigate the attack on Town Hall up to Ch 11 and you will get the achievement in Ch 13

Reverse Exorcism

Summary

Investigate the attack on Town Hall and continue the investigation in Ch 11

The Constellation Project

Summary

Investigate the Dragon Massacre

It’s Personal

Summary

Investigate the Dragon Massacre and continue the investigation in Ch 11 and have your family type be your mom or your parents
OR
In the epilogue you can get this achievement later if your family type is your dad.

Not A Happy Ending

Summary

You automatically get this if your family type is your parents in Ch 12

Lost and Found

Summary

Have your family type be your mom and you will automatically get the achievement in the epilogue

Behind the Mask

Summary

Have your family type be your dad and you will get the achievement in the epilogue

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you are our god dude thanks for the guide

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Thank you so much for this! Had three hidden achievements left and couldn’t for the life of me figure them out🤦🏼‍♀️

was gonna try the demo…

directly on COG site…and this happen : Uncaught TypeError: Cannot redefine property: BetterJsPop

So though I let you know…

ahfgjsdfklgdjs YES

I’m so sorry Leon, but my MC would definitely do this. Yikes.

I wonder how came all this Leon cat thing? Is it bc the name (Leon - lion) or is it his personality?

Anyway I’m doing like my tenth playtrough now and I really like that I can still find something new (lol also I romance Sera in like every second playthrough bc whenever I accidentaly stumble upon some new content involving her I feel the need to do that again while I go for her romance route).

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For me, it starts with Leon= lion. Lion made small and domesticated is kitty cat and because Leon is the second tallest character but also one of the youngest I add “little” to the nickname so that it becomes “little kitty cat”. If my mc adopts one of those cute little phantom kitties Cyrus was feeding then my mc will share his dorm with two little kitty cat’s. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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Which chapter???

I remember Leon gets called a cat and/or compared to manticore cubs somewhere amongst my playthroughs.

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You can get the achievement in Ch 12.

Leon is literally Lion in Spanish. He also have that cute cat personality. Also is compared in text to a manticore cub and to a cat. Also no one with touching my Leo in my playthrough… I am not one to share when I love a character. However my second character would probably don’t mind

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Yes! I have the screenshot too! It was so adorable :two_hearts: And his reaction :heart_eyes_cat:

Summary

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As I said before he is a cute adorable ambitious kitty

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Now I imagined that if Leon would play CoGs/HGs then Choice of Cat would be his favorite. Pretty sure you can be an ambitious kitty in that game after all.

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He would just play as himself! A cat playing a cat simulator :cat:

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And now that I think about it I think Choice of Dragon would be Seraphinas favorite. I imagine her trying to explain it to the others “it helps me to better understand Briseis”.

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