Jolly Good: Tea and Scones

This determines nothing. I could take the bar with me.

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Aww, okay. But it’s nice that we’ll get a little more time with her. I’ll miss those fancy drink descriptions - which is odd, because I don’t even drink in real life, but I liked the idea of drinking those things! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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I was just reminded of one moment in the game where Fitzie says the Cadbury Club expects all their servants to be from “good, middle-class stock”. But weren’t servants considered working class, and wasn’t the Victorian motion that having servants was a requirement of being middle class only just starting to fade after the first World War?

I think it’s because being the personal valet/maid is definitely a different status than being, say, the cook or the scullery maid. I mean, the male version is called “a gentleman’s gentleman”.

I always assumed that to be this vaguely condescending career descriptor meant to elevate the position while showcasing that it didn’t actually get that much respect - think businesswoman (and not businesslady) Vs cleaning lady (and not cleaning woman).

This is what I call dedication :point_up_2:

This brings a question if Pilcrow is in fact while a powerful entity which is bound to a specific area or object ( in this case the bar ) :thinking:

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I mean, she is at the arena with us and the rest of the club during the competition. But are arena usually places with bars? Did Ernie asked to set up a bar specifically for her? That’s a fun thought.

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But this brings up an interesting topic…… is Pilcrow summonable only when a bar is available or when a specific bar is available ? :thinking:

Like if it’s the latter then that means that Ernie has to pretty much move that specific bar to their next location. And this would take DAYS to fully move it depending on how big it is. And this means that the Noble Gases has to receive an invitation prior before the event so they can move the bar and summon Pilcrow. This might be one of reasons why the entire tournament thing was a mess for the Noble gasses. Not only would they have to worry about humiliating themselves that night but they would also have no Pilcrow shaped support system/wise sage to look out for them. I’d like to imagine if that was the case Ernie had hired many movers on the spot to directly move the bar into the tournament stadium.

If it’s the former however, I can see both Ernie and the Cadbury Club building her a bar. Especially if the Cadbury club is there since the Cadbury Club definitely know if Pilcrow needs a bar to be summoned into the material plane.

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Pilcrow is a lich that watches over the club since time immemorial, and one of the expensive liquors on the bar is her phylactery.

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Really ? I always imagined Pilcrow to be more closer to a summonable familiar and Merle is her apprentice who after his training would gain sentience and a human form

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She would have to have a witch or wizard to be familiar to, though. So who is that? Maybe it’s the bar. The bar is actually a sentient animated object wizard, which explains how it can move to places like the arena.

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Oh, you shortsighted young fools.

This is where Ernie gets to shine.

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Hm…. Well Pilcrow IS a servant so technically her witch/wizard/mage has to be her employer so I’m betting on @Entracte ‘s theory that it is in fact Ernie

But…… if this is correct :

Then dang, the MC nearly burned the poor guy alive

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Would be one instance of the witch/wizard actually being made of wood.

That’s a rule for Hosted Games WiPs, because the authors of those are untested amateurs that the forum doesn’t need cluttering up space with speculative threads if they don’t even have a demo. Gower has already written multiple wildly successful games for the official Choice of Games label—there’s no doubt that he will deliver. Not to mention that this is a sequel, so in a way the whole of the first Jolly Good game is the demo.

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Aren’t you not allowed to have a thread without a demo? Just curious.

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This is a COG game not HG

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I respect your opinion, but I have a very different one on this.
The employer-employee relationship dynamic, no matter how problematic it would be in real life, is a major part of the appeal to me here (it allowed for some very sexy dialogues already). It’s the sort of thing that’s nice or even hot in fiction, even more so in IF which is so much about wish-fulfilment. I personally don’t want or need this degree of realism, especially not in a game that is so unrealistic and absurd in other regards, and I hope neither “the game” nor Fitzie will ever go all moralistic on me for something I enjoy in IF, because then I’d lose interest in him in an instant. I really don’t need to be lectured or judged by a fictional character.

Let’s hope for options that will satisfy everyone.

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The power dynamic here doesn’t really bother me because it sort of flows both ways.

The MC is Fitzie’s employer, but they’re also completely and totally dependent on Fitzie. If Fitzie left the service of the MC they’d get kicked out of the Cadbury Club and have to settle for Gillyflowers Ltd, but they’d manage. The MC, on the other hand, would be reduced to dressing in rags and using a butter knife to eat burned cream of wheat out of a pot lid while hiding from irate creditors in a hovel that had load bearing stacks of unpaid bills.

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I don’t think it’s possible for you to have written that any funnier.

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The REALLY BIG save for Fitzie’s romance is that, it being satire, nothing in the game is to be taken seriously. I mean, you win a three-way boxing match by insulting people. This isn’t The Tale of Blackbeard. It isn’t even Cutthroat Island. It’s Monkey Island, turned up to 12.

I’m half-expecting to ask someone to tell me about voodoo.

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