I’ll definitely pick out some examples for you, and I mean break it up into more pages. I just wasn’t sure how to word it properly (pages, for some reason, didn’t come to mind :sweat_smile:).

I just remembered the other word I’d forgotten, which is ‘lest’. You don’t actually overuse it too much, if my forgetting was any indication, but you do seem to use it in the place of ‘unless’, but they don’t mean the same thing. Lest usually means something like (and this is straight from google) ‘to avoid the risk of’, or ‘in case’ or something similar. Like ‘Sam walked quietly lest he wake the beast’.

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I have great trouble playing this game, at least as far as free will is concerned. Well, not the city child parts, those are fine. But every time, every time, I sit down and plan to be a subversive and help Icarus, this happens:

???: Hi, I’m Copper.
Minos: MARRY ME!

I just can’t explain it. Maybe my version is bugged. :confused:

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@LordOfLA I’m… not gonna lie this is a pretty accurate description. It got to the point where I tripped on a rug about an hour later, turned it over, and somehow more blood had gotten underneath it. (I guess it soaked through?? Nobody knows.)

Now I’m very wary of my Christmas tree.

Don’t worry about it! I figured that’s what you meant when you said “even in separate paragraphs”, but I just wanted to double-check and make sure! :smile:

(Also I took out/replaced most of the “albeits”, so I hope it reads a little better now, I’ll go and do the same thing with ‘lest’. Thanks again!)

Ah, yes, it must simply be Copper’scharm a strange bug that afflicts your version. How odd.

Good thing that Copper’s romance is oneofmostdepressing gonna be really fun. Especially if you help out Icarus. Hoo, boy, are you in for a fun time.

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:cry:

As long as we don’t get the whole “gay character dies” plot… :unamused: (But why would Minos ever help Icarus when Copper’s on the other side?)

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Don’t worry, like I’ve said before pretty much everyone can die or have something horrible happen, but it’s usually hard to make happen/unnecessary and therefore the consequence of a previous action. So no “gay character dies plot” (Trust me, I hate those so much.)

(Plus, depressing doesn’t usually equal death in my book. :smile: I have other things in mind.)

As for why you might be on the other side… well that more depends on what you chose to stand up for.

You can still romance anyone (except Cynthia, but that doesn’t really apply here) if you’re on the other side/neutral. The romance path itself will just change a bit.

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Here are my suggestions(if you care to take them)/examples.
" “Look, she- my friend- told me that Icarus is just an alibi…” " - I think you mean alias? I just noticed this and thought I’d point it out.

" The amber gaslight dances on particles of dust that float around you. The usually enticing swirling motion, the odd waltz of rust and dirt, fails to enchant you with its normally mystic properties. " - I might replace the second ‘the’ with ’ It’s ', and the third ‘the’ with ‘an’.

" You see the coal leave a black smudge on the clay cover and you use the back of your shirt to try and rub it off. " - sorry if you don’t want grammar corrections, but I think there should be a comma between ‘cover’ and ‘and’.

" All it does is smudge the ugly spot until it mars the edge of the elegant golden title. The title you can’t read but know what it says. " - Using the word title here so close together seems a little repetitive. If you want a suggestion, I would just move ‘the title’ to be after ‘you can’t read’, just so they’re a little further apart. I would also add a ‘you’ after ‘but’, and a comma before ‘but’.

" Rather, they weren’t answering the door, lest it was a ghost that nearly hit you on the head with their book. " - ‘Lest’ in the place of ‘unless’.

" Even though you can speak just fine, you’ve never heard anyone speak those two words. " - I would probably replace the second ‘speak’ with ‘say’.

" The City, this underground behemoth you’ve lived in all twelve years of your life. The City is alive, and you would know- you can talk to it. " - I would probably combine these two sentences by getting rid of the second ‘the city’ and just putting a comma between ‘life’ and ‘is’, or I would replace the second ‘the city’ with ‘It’ if you want to keep the two sentences seperate. In either case I would also replace ‘this’ with ‘an’.
I think that, in general, you use ‘the city’ way too often. I would probably replace that with ‘it’ or some other word when it’s possible (and fitting), to keep the phrase from becoming too repetitive and boring. Like here: ‘…The City, who replaced your faulty fleshy parts with pieces of The City. Making you half-city and half-human.’ you might change the second ‘the city’ into ‘itself’ instead. I would also get rid of the first period and just combine the two sentences into one with a comma, because ‘Making you half-city and half-human’ doesn’t really work on its own.

" Your left leg is metal from the knee-down, it can stiffen up when you walk, so you have to make sure it’s well oiled. " - I think that here you should actually seperate ‘Your left leg is metal from the knee-down’ and ‘it can stiffen up when you walk, so you have to make sure it’s well oiled’.

" You remove the leg when you sleep. The leg itself isn’t as flexible as your skin-covered leg, but it’s stronger. You were raised by The City, and your mentor. Those two are the only people you’ve ever known as “parents”. " - I’m not sure what suggestions to give here, other than “find a way to make it flow better”. It sounds very halting, like you’re just listing off random information.

" You wouldn’t know, of course, but you’re familiar with the shape and sound of your name, even if you may never know exactly what each symbol means, or how they form the sound that you and others use to call you. " - To me it seems a bit redundant to say ‘you wouldn’t know’ and then also say ‘you may never know’. I would probably get rid of 'You wouldn’t know, of course, but ’ and just have the sentence start off at ‘You’re’.

" You lack a surname, as the surname is usually a marker of a human family. Yet your family is The City itself, and your surname may as well be your left leg, and the heavy thud you make whenever your metal foot touches the ground beneath you. " - More of a personal preference, but I’d probably rewrite this sentence as ‘You lack a surname, as that is usually a marker of a human family, and your family is The City itself. Your surname may as well be your left leg, and the heavy thud you make whenever your metal foot touches the ground beneath you.’

" But it’s not as if you need one, even if you were older you’d simply be addressed as “City Child”, never Mister Ovid. " - I might rewrite this as ‘But it’s not as if you need a surname. Even if you were older you’d simply be addressed as “City Child”, never Mister Ovid.’

" So it’s never bothered you, mainly because it’s never had to. " - This sentence just doesn’t really make sense to me. Your lack of a surname has never bothered you because it never had to? It might make more sense as ‘mainly because you’ve never had a reason to want/need a last name’, or something similar.

Some of your simple sentences could easily be combined to, in my opinion, give the text a better flow. I’ve already listed a few, but I’ll give one more here (and not list any more, because I don’t want this list to have a bunch of repeat suggestions).

Again, I don’t want to give too many repeat suggestions so I’ll just leave some general suggestions here:

  1. If you re-read a paragraph or page and find that you’re using the same word to begin a lot of sentences, you should change the sentences around a bit (ex. " You stand from the corner you’d been wedged in, carefully grabbing the book and holding it against your chest. You walk to the edge of the platform, and peer through the mesh-wiring at the sprawling City below you, past the spider web of rusted piping. You see people move like ants through the City’s veins, and double check that there’s no leaking- that was what you were originally sent here to do after all- before heading for the staircase. ", a whole lot of you’s).
  2. You should re-read a paragraph or page (or have someone else read it for you) to find when you’re repeating words in general, because that does seem to be a problem you have (and that’s a shame because I think most of your writing it very good otherwise).
  3. Have someone else read a paragraph/page you’ve written (or leave it alone and come back after a while) to find any sentences or words that seem redundant or useless/unnecessary (the ‘while’ in “While most City’s Children know their mentors by name and face.” has no purpose, for instance, and “Mentor listens while pouring your soup, but you can tell by the swing of the hood that they glance at you now and then, assuring you that they’re still listening.” mentions that your mentor it listening twice, which is redundant).

Sorry if this is more than/not what you wanted! I didn’t really mean to go through every sentence I had the slightest nitpick with, but I couldn’t help myself :disappointed_relieved: So, I stopped after a few pages because I didn’t want the list to get too long. Most of there are kinda minor (and, like I said, nitpicks), so I think I may have veered off of what you wanted for examples. These are just suggestions of how I think you could improve the flow a bit more, and of course you don’t have to take my advice. Sorry it’s so long, I really didn’t mean for it to be.

Also: Yes! Removing most of the albeits did make it flow much better, and I was kind of confused at first because I didn’t know that you’d removed them and I thought that I was just going crazy :sweat_smile:

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Woah! So much detail :open_mouth:

This is awesome! Thank you so much!

This is actually more than I wanted, ahah, which is amazing! (It’s always stuff like this- the starting sentences with the same word/repeating phrases- that I miss and forget about, so this is absolutely perfect!)

You don’t have to apologize at all, this is such a huge help, thank you so much!

Ahah, sorry 'bout that. Figured I’d just go in and fix them up real quick after you pointed it out to me- so don’t worry, you’re not going crazy. :wink:

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Thank goodness that it was actually helpful. I was a bit worried that I wasn’t giving you what you actually wanted haha :smile: I’ve never actually gone through a wip and given suggestions/examples because I usually just assume that other people can give better advice.

edit: And I just realized that I forgot to give that last example of simple sentences that could be combined into one. Oops, but I’m too lazy to get one now.

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Sorry, yes, you did already say so, didn’t you? :sweat_smile:

Well, my Ovid has ideals and complexity. My Minos has a crush on a cute redhead…

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Really? :open_mouth: You’ve apparently got a knack for it, then! 'Cause you’ve definitely just helped me out a ton.

Aha, it’s all good, I’ll do my best to go through and comb out as many as I can! (Plus it helps just knowing what to look for, y’know?)

Aha, don’t worry about it, that was like… two months ago… :sweat_smile: This WIP has been sorta MIA for a long time…

whoops.

So… the twelve-year-old is Socrates and the (probably early twenty-something?? I don’t think I ever specified the age of the book MC…) is “the teenager with the crush”?

Huh

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Haha, maybe I should actually contribute more often then :slight_smile:

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The city’s children remind me a bit of the prisoners from Incarceron in terms of having a bit of their home as part of their bodies.

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Funnily enough I actual read that book I think a month or so on a plane after I started writing Icarus Sun. I couldn’t help but think the very same thing, haha.

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Hey there!

I didn’t put it in the title because it’s really not much, but I added in a li’l extra transition scene in the second part of the first book chapter (for when you choose to go to Icarus/Lorraine’s conversations).

I wanted to smooth over the transition to Lorraine’s building and also after Icarus’ meeting, and also give a little bit more dialogue to Cynthia and Copper since they don’t have much right now and the next book chapter is going to ask you to chose between people again, and I wanted to give a little more insight to the two of them so that you’ve got a better sense of who they are as people.

But yeah! Like I said it’s not much, (just a couple of paragraphs, really), but either way, hope you enjoy!

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I just finished reading what you’ve got up and I just wanted to say I’m totally in love with the world you’ve built! Not to mention in love with Icarus as well swoons (this is just confirming that I have a type and each day I grow weaker for bad boys). And I’m really wondering if Mentor might be someone in the story within the story. Icarus or the MC maybe? But then Copper’s left arm was made of metal and if I remember right isn’t Mentor’s left arm also metal? (but then I remembered the wings but I suppose anything can happen) I really love this story so far and I wish I more eloquent so I could actually express it properly ;w;

I don’t know whether or not you’ve caught these yet but in case you didn’t I found a couple errors. In the first paragraph during the flashback to when City MC is 6 (beginning with ‘”Mentor?” You craned your neck up’) it says ‘Your arm was silver colored’ but my MC’s prosthetic was the face. Then in the 5th paragraph it says ‘I feel in’ when it should be ‘I fell in’

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Ahh! Thank you so much!

(Icarus is great, isn’t he? I love him too, don’t worry. He’s one of my favorites to write :smile: )

Ahaha, guessing who Mentor is, huh? Well, I can’t spoil anything (though I always really want to) so I’ll just go ahead and say those are some very interesting theories you’ve got there.

Ah, whoops! Those are definitely not supposed to be like that! Thank you so much for pointing them out!

My thoughts were that Mentor’s identity would depend on the exact path the book MC takes…

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That’s also a very interesting theory!

Can I just say how much I love the fact that Icarus calls you sunshine!
Also why when you ask him questions are you only allowed to ask one while if you ask Lorraine Elin multiple questions?
Also:gotten

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I’m happy you like it! I though it’d be a nice touch to add (plus, I mean, it’s Icarus, and he’s 100% the kind of guy to do that.)

Ah, whoops! Must be an error in the code. Thanks for pointing it out! (And the spelling error too), I’ll go fix those ASAP! :smile:

EDIT: The Icarus Inquiry error should be fixed and working A-OK now! (I’ll get to the spelling error in the morning.)

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