True, i’m not saying it’s impossible it would actually be a relatively cool path of being the “Mercenary king” who assembles Stepe cavalry, Ravarian infantry, Kantonian archers, and Krorid shock troops all into one army. It would just be insanely expensive to do and would require the MC to have knowledge of governmental systems that they don’t likely have.
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I honestly don’t see how a lot of people around here genuinely think the ursurper path will be good for the kingdom. An interesting path for sure, but to think the MC will finish it in an amazing spot is just wishful thinking.
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it’s completely negative approach and anyone can’t become king by that approach.
anyways if my mc doesn’t become king then no one will. i will destroy kanton.kanton without marshal as king don’t deserves to exist.
the way you are talking you look completely angry 
mc is not usurper. he is legitimate king of kanton and coronated infront of nobility.crowned by church.if elya goes against that then she is rebel and i will cut her and her supporters head for that.
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Baron is noble who obligated to crown,just like the same as hight noble. He want something exchange with loyal to Elya.It prove him not truly loyal to crown.He loyal to crown because he have his own hidden motivation.as long as Elya give it him ,he willing loyal to her.but he is not die for her
In bastard king,Dimas can die for MC.because Marshall save his life.It prove Dimas truly loyal to MC.he vow walk into grave with Marshall.It different from Lord Ciril or Lord Moren
The funny thing about the usurper rotue, is Obren P. O. V. who said something of the like “Well, I’m backing the Marshall, because he/she look like the strongest. However considering they betrayed their sister, i wonder who will be the next”.
I don’t think he is the only one, who will think in that way.
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That’s the best way to go about the ursurper path tbh. Just a crazied and self-centered Marshal trying to take the world, losing himself to his greed in the process.
It’s funny to me how I’ve seen some people say their Marshals still love and care for Elya, despite stealing her throne:
“I’m sorry I’ve taken your birthright by force, putting the country in an even deeper crisis then it already was in, I just really wanted this so bad! You can forgive your back-stabing, Crown-stealing, selfish older sigling right? It’s only the second time this has happened to you!”
Cope, cope, cope all around.
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that’s what i want all nobles to think.as long they think mc is strongest and winning they will stay in line. once mc lost battle or something bad happens.he will be in trouble.
it’s mc’s throne not elya’s. mc is elder brother.
sobik is dead and church says mc is king.
No matter the gender MC will never have any legitimate claim on the throne. Sobik disinherited the MC and removed them from the line of succession. His will claims his choice of king/queen goes as such: Belos, Elya, and Vedran (May god help you). The most he gives you is the position of General to be able to advise your siblings.
Sobik’s will which was read out publicly holds more authority over who should be king. The church has not yet officially commented on the matter of succession they have yet to be paid off for that. The only person who has said such is a bishop which is the middle managers of churches, if Rade pays off the church faster he could be given legitimate claim on the throne over the MC easily.
It wasn’t fully read out. But it was publicly stated about the succession when the MC tells vedran they’ve been cast down in the succession.
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Can I just say–
I’m so glad Bacon decided not to follow the “mentor dies to make the main character grow” trope, I was actually a bit worried since I thought it was overdone and I personally think of Darin died when the assassin was there it would quite literally break the Marshal. Their mental health is pretty tenuous even at the end of the book in my mind and as much as Darin jokes about dying I can’t imagine the Marshal handling that well, they still haven’t done nearly the amount of healing to be able to process that I think (at least not in my playthrough at least).
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Keep believing that pal.
In my games, they have done no healing at all lol. “Suffering is my penace” until he breaks.
Was Sobik’s will ever read out? It would make sense for it to happen, but I don’t remember that ever being the case.
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The church will say that about Rade too. All he needs is just another corrupt representative (maybe even the same guy) And the Pope will say it about whoever pays the most.
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Sobik die anyway.not need to obey him anymore.well…who love Elya just obey her.if MC who love yourself just disobey .
I do think there is an argument for why the Marshal should be king, particularly in a situation where Elya is weak, and unable to perform her responsibilities well. Though this would also assume the Marshal does the growing they need, and works through some of their issues.
My personal take is that probably the ‘best’ ending for everyone would be if Elya was queen, and the Marshal in her service. Be that really how it is or as a ‘puppet’ situation where the Marshal is really the one making all of the decisions.
I personally really hope for a shadow puppet option in the second book though, I’d love to have Elya be the queen in name only while the Marshal continues making all the substantive choices 
Evil-lite I guess.
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I could see that argument being made for the appointment of the Marshal as Elya’s regent, but not for him to ursurp her. That would have been an interesting path, as a middle ground between ending 2, 3 and 4 - the loyalist win, but Elya doesnt have the self confidence to be nominated as queen, so the Marshal steps up and becomes the defacto ruler of the land, at least while the war is going on.
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If there is one thing in which the Marshal would probably be educated over Elya in it would be the Marshal. Though also I just can’t see a 16 year old being an effective ruler in my head, particularly when considering how she was sheltered due to her having three… then two… elder siblings whom everyone believed would rule before her.
I don’t think you need to betray her to have all the power. If everyone sees her as weak willed then even if she stands on the throne it is not the queen people fear but her hound, aka you. Considering the Marshal had a reputation already and likely would have a much taller one following a second war where they are spear heading the efforts.
@Zaya27477
I have no idea what the ending numbers are supposed to mean
@fancyparadise
Huh? I think she knows that the Marshal would see the value in that, considering the Marshal seems to regard the war as pointless bloodshed that caused them to lead some of the best people they met to their deaths.
@BlindSwift
holy hell wait wth, Elya can die? How does that happen??
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she literally gave krorid independence without asking mc. i don’t think she care about what mc thinks.
atleast she should have asked. mc have fought many years so that part stays in kanton and she literally give that without asking mc.
The fact that the path to Ending 3 requires the Marshal to put their trust in this guy as the linchpin of their claim to the throne shows, in my opinion, that whatever drives the Marshal to take the usurpation path isn’t cold logic or belief that they are doing what is best for Kanton. I’m not saying it’s not a good story or that I won’t play it (it is a good story and I will play it), I’m just saying it’s not the path that a Marshal completely driven by logic/the good of Kanton would take given the constraints of the story (meaning no siding with Rade or disappearing into the Kroridian jungle).
…I am also now imagining the Archbishop stringing Monarch!Marshal along like a scambaiter to an attempted scammer whenever they ask about how the rehonoring process is going, and using that to push on the Marshal for more favors. I’m also imagining the Holy Father saying something like “While you weren’t deserving of your dishonor before, you have certainly earned it now,” when asked about rehonoring Monarch!Marshal.
@Phenrex if she has high leadership she won’t kick the bucket after being injured during the retreat.
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1-Marshal death
2-Elya becomes queen
3-Usurpation
4-Elya dies and MC becomes king.
Have Elya at low leadership and then retreat from battle. Try not to cry…then cry immensly.
Definitely, the fact that you can take the ending and then immediately once confronted by Darin and have the option to go “Oh shit what am I doing.” But still have to do it shows that not a whole lot of thought went into the usurpation and it’s more of a gut instinct thing to do. (Much like mira’s drunk rage when she dishonoured the MC)
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I’ve definitely got to do another run now for Ending 4 holy heck, one with a great relationship with Elya whom is loyal and has natural leadership. Could imagine how much that one stings. (A Marshal who tends to baby her rather than telling her what she would have needed to rule as queen.
@0Meletti
I was assuming low leadership, since if you don’t deliberately guide her to be ready than she certainly isn’t. All that royal training and yet a few convos from elder sibling with a severely unstable mental is supposedly completely changing her abilities to lead? I don’t buy it.
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If you properly raise her leadership stat, she already does more then enough of what you would expect in the way she acts as a monarch. Its not entirely uncommon for young rulers to really step up to their positions, despite their tender ages (the same way its not uncommon for them to do a shit job).
It’s not like she had much of a choice at that point lol.
It would be really cool/funny if the Holy Father is just a totaly chill guy.
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