His idealistic nature requires him to believe that everyone is inherently good, and that eventually through kindness you can reach them. That works fine for policies within his own country (Although the part about abolishing the monarchy will have some powerful dissenters once arthur actually goes about doing it), but there will always be invaders whose greed will overpower anything else.
I think that for his dream to work, the naive Arthur needs to be paired with a realistic Guen, who is kind enough to support him but to also quietly deal with things in the background.
That part of him always makes me go âoh honey noooâ, esp the part when he tries to believe in that guy who arthur fought when he was a kid
I make Guen be loyal to Arthur but I feel bad for Lancelot because I accidentally lead him on somehow? I think it happened when I touched his hand again but I wanted to see if the sparks happened again or if it was because of the stats. :"(
Arthur is not a HERO HE IS A RAPIST HYPOCRITAL ⌠He cheat he kill he let his bastard rotten⌠Only modern literature present. Him as a new superman. Medieval literature and previous donât show an angel at all. Hell in Spanish version he killed thousands of moros and execute them after battle. Arthurs lost his innocence and in his last years he become a rust cynical brute. it is in his death when he return to his ancient glory. Some christian authors considered it a proof of a good christian who ask for pardon to Jesus for his crimes and is forbidden and admitted in Heaven.
To be fairâŚtimes were absolutely different at the time when the original authors wrote the first Camelot stories. The audiences of the time would never have accepted a hero with our modern sensibilities. (And, a British audience is obviously going to want the British hero to win victories against a âforeignâ foeâŚwhich Iâd imagine must seem really weird when read by potential descendants of that foreign foeâŚ)
And, in the same way, we canât accept a hero with the sensibilities of the original Arthur. Nor should we. Thatâs why we create a new Arthur, like Jean has been. This Arthur is not the same Arthur as the original. At least, not as far as I have seen. And, we shouldnât judge this Arthur for what the original Arthur did. Not until he does those things, at least.
Well all people forget that he will let Mordred rotten in other home with a bad foster parent . He wont say the truth. He gives a shit if Guen doesnât want him he still tries he doesnât let her go and searching other wife. He only cares for fame. He doesnât care about peasants security or provide them of laws. He doesnât care educate people. He is a tirant with the infant child tantrums.
Itâs my perspective of hippie. And thatâs in my game not anyone else. Each player has they own Guenverse. I find CUTE How all hippie lovers try to change my vision lol. I am not trying change anyone else. Only give mine.
I havenât seen Mordred in my version. I didnât even know Mordred was in the game yet. I guess thatâs why I thought you were referring primarily to the historical version. My mistake. I apologize.
Well we have a idea via @jeantown about what to expect in future books it is in the questions and future in the demos and in many posts here in the thread. I am role playing a cunning ruthless Guen called Poison queen who is against Arthur vision and hates him for how he rule and wants to make Ingland stronger. She is faithful but for gain not for love. So i come from that vision.
To my knowledge the only way to âseeâ Mordred in the game so far is playing Guen in Part 1 as a little anti social by not agreeing to join Arthur and Lance in the adventure for fireworks or staying up to talk to Morgana, and then she dreams about him. But he isnât going to appear proper until Part IV (where heâll be a kid).
I think the point of @jeantown 's game is to let the player shape Guen the way the want to, based on how they view the other characters and the situations they find themselves in. What makes us all love the game so much is that Jean puts in enough variety to allow Guen to be anyone from a lovable, idealistic, airhead similar to Arthur, to a realist, to a bad ass poison queen.
Regarding Arthurâs almost impossible idealism, we forget, he is only 17 and Morgana specifically mentions that he has always had everything handed to him on silver platter. Sure heâs had to face Britainâs issues, but heâs been fairly sheltered when it comes to personal woes. Anyone ever talk to a sheltered high schooler? You often find a very similar personality to Arthurâs. I have a friend that could have almost been the female version of him at that age! But she went out into the big bad world and grew up, just as Arthur will. Jean has said Arthur will start to change quite a bit by the end of book two.
Lance, Morgana, and possibly Guen, have already dealt with personal hardships where Arthur hasnât. When he has to face for the first time that his own idealism and descions almost led to the deaths of his sister and wife and destruction of Camelot, he will gain wisdom and not be so frustratingly naive. Jean has stated that before. She says it is largely up to the playerâs Guen on how Arthur turns out later on. Arthur might also have to deal with being maimed. Jean has also said the first time you can make him truly pissed and cause him totally lose his temper is if Guen tells him tactlessly that sheâs had sex with Lance. I happen to like Arthur pretty well, but cannot wait to push his buttons and make him angry!
Iâm considered a nice person, and my Guens tend to lean towards the nicer side of the spectrum, whether theyâre practical or not, but I do have an evil streak in me with fictional characters. And what are you talking about? Iâd never kick my little fae puppy.
This also reminds me of a younger version of the Arthur version of Arthur in warlord series which we never do meet. Every call in the book series when you are introduced to him heâs already and his late twenties early thirties. And been living in the world for quite some time I think he was leader of a war band fighting against the Franks.
I played the game in almost 1 years because I like the different Arthurian stories. One question, I notice that your story is more realistic than the other stories. Why do you choose to write about the realistic story?
Weâve been talking a lot about Arthur lately, but Iâm sort of curious about something else - whatâs your/your Guenâs impression of Lance? I kind of struggle to get a handle on him personally. I feel like Iâve really given him short shrift when adding to the TV Tropes page because I personally donât really get much of a read on him. I tend to play my Guenâs as polite, but a bit distant towards him.
My main Guen, the witch queen, is also polite but distant. But sheâs disappointed, she keeps hearing how engaging and fun he is, while her interactions with him are always awkward and stiff. She hopes if she breaks the spell, they can just relax and be friendly.
PalaGuen (sword/light magic) is mad for Morgana. She thinks Lance is a pest.
Ruthless Guen (leadership/undecided) thinks Lance is easily manipulated and is going to play the âoh but we canât!â card to string him along.
Canon Guen is going to be nuts about him just because I do want to see how that path plays out in this version.
For myself, I want to like Lance but because of my personality Iâm uncomfortable with that kind of emotionalism or the idea of love at first sight. I think I just donât get the whole courtly love, grand romance thing, so I sometimes find him a bit silly.
Haha, youâre all way more organized than I am with the gueneverse (love it!!). I first play through with a âwhat would I do?â mindset, and then subsequent playthroughs are random just to see what other options/endings exist.
Definitely going to have a playthrough that explores whateverâs going on with lance though. Iâm curious to see how much he likes guen because of her or because of the rose tinted lens. Itâs been a while, but isnât the majority of his route you basically finding out that you two have an electric touch?
And then having the option to politely back off or be horrible like me and exploit it for his reactions I wonder if itâs the options that I chose but thereâs little dialogue between the two (I kept picking the options that made him silently shiver or kissed him to shut him up hehehe) and yet the guy constantly tells you that heâd die for you.
But ofc, his character is amazingly well written!!! Heâs experienced with fighting, and heâs always realistic with the options, like when he tells you to kill the guy instead of saving him like arthur wanted. And at least heâs reliable unlike arthur who knows that youâre the one beside him and yet he still wants to save the guens like!??!?!??!!? oh honey no. At least lance listens to you and actually follows your instructions.
My first Guen loved Arthur and stood loyal to him but at the same time felt sorry for Lance due to his repressed feelings. Sheâs not happy with the whole love-triangle situation as its quite distracting and troublesome to know her husbandâs best friend just happens to be madly in love with her. It also doesnât help that sheâs one of those individuals that always wants to appease everyone⌠so the temptation of lying with Lance, just to make him a little happier, is always there. Would be ironic to give Arthur a taste of what its like to be too kind to everyoneâŚ
Iâm still planning on what kind of character my future Guens are going to be⌠but Iâm aiming on making one foccused on Morgana and the other one on Lance and between the two of them, one is going to be a conniving, oportunistic queen and the other is going to be salty at the fact Lance only loves her because heâs under a spellâŚ
My Guen started out annoyed at Lance for essentially breaking into her dressing room, so she had bad feelings towards Lance even before she met Arthur. That tinted her feelings towards him for the rest of the story as the braggart kept grating on her nerves. As a result, when she found out he had feelings towards her, she was not sympathetic to him at all.
That is especially so since she really liked Arthur and honestly wanted to make the best of her situation with him. If it werenât for him being Arthurâs best friend, sheâd probably be happier that he chose to stay far far away between books.
In the end, heâs that friend your Significant Other loves but whom you kinda wish wasnât in your life. Instead, you tolerate him for the sake of your Significant Other.
I wonder if itâs the options that I chose but thereâs little dialogue between the two (I kept picking the options that made him silently shiver or kissed him to shut him up hehehe) and yet the guy constantly tells you that heâd die for you.