Mostly thatâs just reflected in the trust stat, so, for example, if Guen kills Hrothulf and admits to doing it, sheâll lose some trust points with Arthur. Eventually, it will be possible for some actions to cause a huge drop in trust (if it was there to begin with), and the âyour majestyâ thing is the first of those to appear. There will be more, for all of the main characters. (One predictable one would be Morganaâs reaction if she finds out Guen has been cheating on her with Lancelot.) Lancelotâs trust should increase if Guen flirts with him and generally acts convivial.
Yes, definitely. Camelot has a standing army of ? maybe not quite a thousand ? professional soldiers, and then a peasant militia in the thousands when needed. The knights are nobility (some by birth and some by merit), and there are maybe 30-40 of them in Book I. Some of them own land and have armies of their own, while others do not.
So what stuff are the knights required to do? Are they not part of the army? What are they for other than for filling Round Table seats and doing quests and such.
As long as they kill each other, Iâm sure that itâll be satisfying. That is the main point, yes? Similar to how we can perpetuate the Frankish Civil War?
The Romans might be so focused on the Romano-Saxons that we could focus on killing Mordred, and see where it goes from there.
Also, is Julia murderable? The Ruthless Ambitious Guen killed Hrothulf⊠and Cornelia hates her⊠so Julia probably hates her too.
And why does it seem kinda creepy that you answered my question even while missing my post?
@jeantown If Guen is pursuing a romance with Morgana, but they didnât do it on the boat, will Guen get a chance to tell Arthur that sheâs in love with Morgana but they havenât had sex yet?
The Guen I have thatâs romancing Morgana has already told Arthur sheâs attracted to women, but theyâve been trying to produce an heir anyways, so their relationship is pretty amicable. I donât know how that news would go over with a Guen whoâs been mean to Arthur, however.
What, they need to do other things? Knight errantry and seat-filling arenât enough?
Well if that was all they were for then⊠Arthur can just ask Merlin to conjure moving suits of plate armor, yes? or put armor mannequins in seating positions. No one would know the difference!
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Oh, they absolutely go to battle when Arthur does. They lead units in battle and/or serve as cavalry and/or advise the king. (Is this not evident in part 1?) Nobles just arenât generally considered soldiers. (Though Bedivere sort of gets away with being both.)
Perpetuating the Frankish Civil War is a long personal quest for Guen, described in detail. At the moment Iâm not planning on writing something like that with the Romans and Romano-Saxons.
Not ruling it out, though you wonât have the opportunity for a long time.
idk, since I majored in Latin and used to teach it, I get a little annoyed when people try to lecture me about classical Rome as if Iâm obligated to make Guenâs Romans historically accurate. So when the mention of Romans came up, I wanted to head that one off asap. Thank you for asking instead of lecturing, and Iâm sorry again that I missed it.
Ack, it would be good if I could arrange things that way, but it wouldnât work with the way I currently have the final scenes planned out. (meaning the second opportunity to have sex with Morgana is slated to happen before the conversation with Arthur would be possible.) If I can find any way to change it, I will, because I can see where youâre coming from and I would like to be able to make it work that way.
I canât wait to see why Lance has such a problem with Guen telling him to refer to her as his majesty- after all, thatâs a pretty common expectation for your monarch to request, whether youâre bffs with the king or not. Iâm guessing something to do with his old lover?
I also love that despite the fact that say, Lance likes convival people, and Morgana (presumably) likes them sensible, and Arthur likes them goody-goody, you can still make them fall in love with you.
Like, I like how regardless Lance says he fell in love with you at first sight and was fond of you because you were wonderful in a angry or a sad or a happy or ambitious way. Morgana can fall for the sweet air-headed idealistic Guens. Arthur can like stuck-up ruthlessly ambitious vain Guens. Just so long as youâre kind to them, not a dick, and donât cheat or anything. Itâs just very nice and gives it a lot of replayability. Soooo many interesting combos!
I love Arthuriana because of the immense amount of genres and changes to the recipe and this game gives endless material for that to do with as you please. And for a lot of romance routes you basically have to become in-line with the li to romance them, and itâs nice to play opposites attract (in a sensible way).
Ok, Iâve been tweaking my Guens, so I thought Iâd post them here. I donât have as many as the ever-creative @buggygirl11, but their profiles are pretty lengthy.
Me-Guen: basically, my personality. This is the one I picture living in Shogun Era Camelot.
Skills: leadership and both varieties of magic
Pet: a dog named Baxter (or maybe Indiana)
Personality: Intelligent and reserved. She reads a lot of fiction, so sheâs very romantic. Sheâs also kind of moody, which is as close to bipolar as the game mechanics will allow. She vacillates between depressed sulking and euphoric implusivity. Her beliefs and core personality, however, donât change.
Idealism vs. Cynicism: In the middle. She wants the utopia that Arthur aspires to, but sheâs also practical enough to understand all the obstacles in the way.
Feelings Towards Marriage: Initially, she was feeling both depressed and dutiful. She spent a lot of her childhood learning about politics from her dad, so she knew the marriage alliance was necessary. However, it still wasnât something she wanted. She deals with it by using her position to make the world a better place.
Relationship with Arthur: Even though she was reluctant to marry him at first, she came to love him and his idealistic goofiness.
Relationship with Lancelot: Like I said earlier, sheâs very romantic because she reads a lot. And Lancelot fits the idea of a perfect love thatâs formed in her mind. So, of course, she has also fallen in love with Lance. She feels tremendously guilty about hurting Arthur, but she canât help falling for Lancelot.
Relationship with Morgana: Theyâre good friends.
Plan for Book 2, Part 2: Guen escaped after Morgana, and then was saved by Lancelot. They confessed their love for each other and agreed to a celibate romance (just like in the storybooks!). Her plan to save the day is to go to Frankmarch and stop the invasion from even starting. Lance will help with translations (unless I discover that I donât have enough bonuses to keep Arthur from getting injured at Michaelsmount).
Ditzy Guen!
Skills: light magic and combat; maybe leadership?
Pet: a dog named Bandit
Personality: Sweet, cheerful, and girly. Sheâs a friend to all living things. She can hold out her hand and sing a song and a bird will land there. And she loves pretty dresses and fun parties. She also enjoys swordfighting and bashing bad guysâ heads. Despite being a bit air-headed, things always seem to turn out well for her.
Idealism vs. Cynicism: Very idealistic. She fully believes in Arthurâs vision and is as blind to reality as he is. Fortunately, Lance and Morgana are around to keep them both in check.
Feelings Towards Marriage: She was completely fine with it from the start. Sheâs too upbeat and optimistic to feel like her rights have been violated by an arranged marriage. On the contrary, she was thrilled when she found out she would be crowned Queen. Her plan is to have as much fun as possible while also being the kindest queen of all time.
Relationship with Arthur: Sheâs gay, so she can never love him. However, they share the same dream and are both interested in combat, so theyâre good friends.
Relationship with Lancelot: Again, sheâs not romantically interested, but they are friends. They both like fashion and dancing as well as fighting, so they get along well.
Relationship with Morgana: This is more complicated. At first, Ditzy Guen was mistrustful of dark magic practitioners, like many other people in the Gueneverse. However, Morgana was very kind to her, and something about the sorceress drew her in. Guen was shy about her feelings at first, but by Book Two, she had fully embraced the idea that she was in love with Morgana. However, they didnât do it on the boat, partly because sheâs still shy and partly because the circumstances are a little too kinky for her. (Iâm sure there were several instances during the escape sequence where Guen said something stupid and Morgana was thinking, âWhy am I in love with this idiot?â)
Plan for Book 2, Part 2: She will either go to Camelot and save the day or go to Michaelsmount and save the day. It depends on whether or not I decide to build her leadership stat. (Itâs a useful skill, but I think sheâs too air-headed to really get into politics.) Sheâll send Lance to take care of whatever she doesnât do herself.
Iâm also working on an ambitious Guen, but I donât have her fully fleshed out yet. No matter what game Iâm playing, my âdarkâ characters always feel one-dimensional. Plus, I feel really uncomfortable playing them. I always have to play a happy-go-lucky character afterwards.
Guenâs request is reasonable, especially under the circumstances, and Lancelotâs anger over it is indeed irrational. There probably wonât be a specific in-game explanation for it, but it may make more sense once more of his backstory is revealed elsewhere. Overall, though, Lance doesnât like titles much in general. (He does call Arthur âyour majestyâ sometimes in public, but he does it almost as a means of drawing attention to the fact that he doesnât have to). Heâs no great believer in hierarchy (having grown up without a clear place in it), and thatâs one of the reasons why he supports Arthurâs vision of a less hierarchical world.
Yeah, it would seem weird to me if you had to be a clone of someone in order to have them fall in love with you⊠pairings of opposites are common in ârealâ life and can lead to really interesting, productive relationships.
As do I, obviously! Thank you for all of your kind words!
@Mim I love your Guens! They both sound fun to play, and should (I hope) have lots of ways to develop in the future.
I will say right now that it will technically be possible, but you may not like what you have to do in order to achieve it. (Iâm seriously afraid people are going to murder me when they figure out what they have to do to get a success at Michaelsmount in absentia.)
I have the same problem. I always end up unintentionally coming up with character-development reasons why they start being better people like 1/3 through the game, or I have to play an Arthur-like character in order to recover.
Now that you mention it, it is odd that Lancelot expects you to treat him like your best friend from the moment you meet, even though youâre the queen already. I hadnât noticed it before.
Maybe if you tell us now, our anger will have cooled by the time youâve finished Book Two?
Oh, My god donât tell me I have to be good to make Hippie become a member less pirate!. Well, In a way I did already. I cured Mr. Giant and let Titus go with him. I hope that will be enough to get him hurt.
I did that once with a Renegade Shepard. Needless to say, the game was not pleased with me. I was happy, though; I had her romance Thane, since he was undergoing similar character development.