Thanks. I wanted to make sure it was possible to avoid it. This is just to ensure using playtime wisely; if it was scripted for failure, sort of as a dry run for Cult 2.0 in a future installment would be fine.
If it will help, I can provide screenshots of this later today. Basically, this is a playthrough where the character build has Charm 4, consumes Dido’s heartsblood, then does the same to the vampire in question.
If I aided Dr. Cousins and Washington University in the development of the TB vaccine by becoming Cousins’ lab assistant, does it still count towards the “Support Development of a Vaccine” achievement? I am asking because the description says that I funded the development of the vaccine.
As the 666th post, here’s my testing feedback (just choices that I wished had another option or confusions I had). I played as a Southerner who focused on Clotho and was later buried in Vicksburg and died waking up. I don’t think all of this stuff needs to be changed, it’s just my running thoughts, and I have similar thoughts during every game I play (often from myself not paying attention).
You didn’t ask for our favorite parts, but I really enjoyed freeing my servant’s brother, the options you had available when watching Clotho’s seance from hiding, and the big, wide options to improve any stat you want.
you have to get 5 “points” to push WU to discover the vaccine. You can get those points in a variety of ways. But if you can see the achievement, then you got it; it’s hidden from those who haven’t done it.
I think I figured this out.
When I started writing this game, 2012 was the future!
Yeah, I’m trying to be a little ambiguous there: you may already be a vampire, or you may not. “Recently” is doing a lot of work in the sentence, and the context for that isn’t established until later.
There are three religious traditions: Catholic, Reformed, and Pagan. You’re playing Reformed, which has a very Presbyterian/Calvinist thrust to it. Admittedly, the Scotch Methodists aren’t quite so much into predestination, and it’s questionable what an enslaved-by-English individual would think, but the Southerners, the Yankees, and the Hessian are very much into predestination.
Did you go to Mexico with West? Because there’s this graf: He teaches you how you do not necessarily need to kill to survive; with care and an exercise of will, you can feed from a mortal without drinking them dry. This is a necessary technique to passing unnoticed among the humans.
What would you have liked to have had the option to say?
I can add a lie tag, but what third option would you want there?
So, just doing the favor for him improved your relationship with him. The lore is lagniappe.
That said, did you not get this line: "I appreciate your offering, ${mr} ${surname}. Now, tell me, what is it that you seek in return?"
Do you know where this was?
Did you kill West when you were created? Also, did you look at this after you arrived in Vicksburg?
If you went with West to Mexico and you didn’t get Jesse to open up during the rapport scene…yes, this is a continuity error.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to. When you first approach him, you can ask him about the harmonica, about the regiment, what his name is, if you can write to him…none of those are “I’m madly in love.”
I’d suggest playing again. You didn’t make it a full third of the way through the game.
Two quick things:
I find it sort of odd that one of the “aspiration” at the beginning of the game is that they want to serve their dominus to the best of their abilities. However, after finishing up in New Orleans, there is barely any mention of the dominus minus a quick “you might him or heard of him”. It there a possibility to included perhaps a few short scenes perhaps where the
MC has some sort of communication with them and interaction can vary on their relationship. This doesn’t really apply to West really.
Also in the scene with Cecil Lynch. If the charm is high enough, you have the opportunity to lie to him and try to convince him to go out into the sun and meet the sun deity Hulitani (Native American sun deity, can’t remember how to spell sorry). The scene is clearly used to “play a joke” on Cecil and the MC is not serious. When the MC is Native American who still worships “sun deity”, it seems like it would be almost like the opinion causes the MC to gleefully make fun of their deity. Perhaps the opinion could be switch where they gleefully tell him about the deity instead of using it as a lie in part of a trick. Small thing but it just seems to contradict itself in one moment.
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If your dominus is Padre Carlos, you actually can write to him in St. Louis for intelligence related to defeating West. If you are the Tribune (I don’t know what happens if you are not Tribune), he will personally come and help you kill West.
Fernando de Villanueva e Itamarca can also be supported by MC in St. Louis (although he doesn’t interact with MC) when he is spreading the Revolution to Cuba and becoming Quaestor of Havana. If PC is his offspring, then they get some dialogue about supporting their dominus when they support the Revolution.
That’s a…really interesting point that I’m going to have to think on. It’s certainly not intended that way.
Ah, okay, so those things make sense, and I’ll definitely try again!
Did you go to Mexico with West? Because there’s this graf:
He teaches you how you do not necessarily need to kill to survive; with care and an exercise of will, you can feed from a mortal without drinking them dry. This is a necessary technique to passing unnoticed among the humans.
I did get the West line, and remembered it, but I didn’t get ‘they won’t remember you feeding on them’ from it. I did figure it out eventually, so I don’t think you have to make it more explicit.
What would you have liked to have had the option to say?
It might just be because I’ve seen this in a lot of other games recently, but I think I would have been fine with ‘Respond formally’, ‘Respond cooly’ and/or ‘respond excitedly’ or something like that, with it slightly influencing those two lines of text. Just for roleplaying.
I can add a lie tag, but what third option would you want there?
A way of breaking it off without involving a separate romance. I know this sounds dumb, but I was roleplaying as a hopeless romantic optimist, so I guess one of those cheesy lies they have in romance movies (like ‘I can never see you again. I can’t tell you why’).
That said, did you not get this line:
"I appreciate your offering, ${mr} ${surname}. Now, tell me, what is it that you seek in return?"
I got that line, and I was happy with the choices I had role-play wise, but I didn’t see why knowledge was the only thing you could ask for when he offered you essentially anything. If it’s because my ambition was knowledge, then maybe that could be mentioned (‘I know you are interested in…’), or if everyone gets that question, maybe rewording it so he specifically mentions knowledge.
This is a large quote giving it context (right after I insulted Jesse about putting gas pipes in his master’s house)
“Is this the child of the beast?” Overstreet inquires. In life, she was a short, homely woman with mousy hair. Undeath has not made her physically more attractive, but she radiates self-assurance and—frankly—power.
“It is,” replies Van der Velde.
She sniffs. “You should be grateful for Van der Velde’s generosity. Taking you in and educating you in the ways of the Society was not something that he was obligated to do.”
“I am most grateful to Heer Van der Velde,” you reply honestly.
I didn’t kill West. Ah, and yes, my apologies, I didn’t check the Quaestors page in Vicksburg. Samantha Withers is listed there.
I’m not sure what you’re referring to. When you first approach him, you can ask him about the harmonica, about the regiment, what his name is, if you can write to him…none of those are “I’m madly in love.”
You’re right, I misremembered. When I went back and replayed just now, I realized that what I found odd was that the choice structure of ‘keep pursuing this path’ or ‘stop now’, which I’ve usually seen in game when you’re doing something especially dangerous. These were the three choices I encountered in a row (after first asking about the harmonica):
“Well, I suppose I should let you get back to your mess.”
“What is your name, Lieutenant?”
“Well, I suppose I should let you get back to your mess.”
“Will your company rendezvous with your regiment soon?”
Well, I suppose I should let you get back to your mess."
“Perhaps I can write to you, while you are on campaign. I would love to hear more about your travels…”
Like I said, I’ll definitely play more. This game feels like it would be a civil war module from Vampire the Masquerade, and I used to love reading through those rulebooks. It makes sense you guys have a deal with them now, I think Choicescript goes well with these kind of stories.
Have done a few more playthroughs of the new beta. I’ve spotted some mistakes in Memphis.
In Vicksburg I released Wilson from service. Withers then turned him and he fled to Memphis. When Withers asked me to track him down I told her that it was her problem and she promptly exiled me.
Later, in Memphis, Withers contacted Apollo and he tasked me with finding Wilson. Later again, after my first search of the Pinch, when speaking to Apollo I had the option of telling him about Wilson or keeping him in the dark on the matter. This makes no sense as he gave me the job of finding Wilson in the first place.
Later I killed and diablerised both Dido and Wilson but when telling Apollo of what happened I said that Wilson had killed Dido and that I then killed Wilson at which point Apollo became enraged and murdered Wilson with his bare hands, Wilson was already dead though and shouldn’t have been present at that meeting with Apollo.
I’ve also spotted a minor error in St Louis. In the scene that talks about the death of the Irish firefighter. His name is given as Phemlim O’Toole. I think you mean Pheilim/Phelim (pronounced fail-em).
I’m really enjoying all the new content, I was also hoping someone could tell me how you go about raising your West Downfall score? I always seem to get a 1 on this.
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This was predicated on your relationship with the quaestor: @{(new_orleans_quaestor_rapport > 55) honestly|through clenched teeth}
You’re saying you would have liked a choice there?
Ah, that’s a looping choice. A puzzle, of sorts. You have to figure out how to push forward with the relationship or withdraw.
Why are you saying this is a mistake?
Can you post a screenshot? Really, all of these would be better documented with screenshots. Though I did find Phelim.
I would have preferred a choice there. I was probably spoiled because you had such great choices with Samantha and Jesse, where you can really customize your intentions and words:
“You can rest easy, Mr. Whitaker. I will keep your secrets,” I reply, though I am uncertain as to why this requires such discretion.
“Perhaps I should encourage her affections, dear Jesse?”
“I can make no promises, Mr. Whitaker. I take a dim view of lying and deceit.”
“No, he hasn’t mentioned you.”
“Vampires do not have feelings of the sort you describe, Mlle. Withers.”
“I tremble to admit that you are correct, Mlle. Withers.”
“Did you know, all three of these buildings were financed by Don Andres Almonester y Roxas?”
“Mlle. Withers, I’m afraid you may have misinterpreted things.”
“I’m afraid you are mistaken. He finds you distasteful.”
So having a similar set of choices with one or two ‘blocked out’ by your stats would be nice. I ‘stoked the fires of my rage’ with Clotho and decided to never forgive him for her death, so I definitely would have picked an option that I said ‘I’m nice on the outside but hate his guts inside’.
i decided to replay the whole story with Villanueva as my maker, i decided to kill him yet somehow when i reach new orleans, during de Marigny party the story acts as if Villanueva was still alive considering i killed him the prologue can this scene being rewritten or just leave it at that ?
post it
Can you post a screenshot of the error?
Ah, Jesse. Well, my priest is not sad in the least about putting more distance between himself and Jesse, a sentiment that Jesse fully reciprocates. Being devout and compassionate, my priest was obviously not going to go along with Jesse’s plot to humiliate Samantha and outright told him as much about making no promises to keep the secret should Samantha ask.
Of course, the struggle for Guillaume’s favor did not help. Unlike Jesse, whom Guillaume apparently embraced out of affection, my priest was embraced for utility, because Guillaume needed his help. Just as well, since my priest takes his vows seriously and would probably have died before letting himself be seduced by Guillaume. Regardless, my priest had to work hard to earn his sire’s favor and did not enjoy certain benefits that his sire might have bestowed had he been embraced for affection. My priest received no help in increasing his status from Guillaume, which actually makes it more impressive in a way, as my priest has steadily worked his way up the ranks, first gaining status from planning two magnificent receptions in Memphis and then sufficiently currying favor with Overstreet that she spoke well of him and thus allowed him to reach Status 3.
As to Jesse, while my priest’s relationship with him is strained, it is not frayed to the point that Jesse would align against the Loyalists, and my priest cares little beyond ensuring this critical point. My priest and Jesse are both glad to be apart, only meeting occasionally as with the caucus or through written correspondence.
It will be interesting when my priest meets Guillaume again in Chicago, to say the least.
Why are you saying this is a mistake?
This isn’t a mistake, I only mention it to establish the circumstances under which Wilson and my character arrive in Memphis.
Can you post a screenshot? Really, all of these would be better documented with screenshots. Though I did find Phelim.
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I didn’t have the presence of mind to take a screenshot at the time, d’oh! I’ll make sure to do so in future though. The scene I’m talking about is the meeting with Apollo after the first caucus, which I did not attend. During the conversation Apollo informs me that the senators failed to elect a candidate and I’m given an option that goes something like:
“Come clean with Carothers about Wilson” or “Say nothing, the quastor doesn’t need to know about this”
This doesn’t make sense to me though as in this play through it was Apollo who instructed me hunt down Wilson.
“Rewritten” is strong; I just needed to add another tag to that line to hide it if Villanueva is dead. But fixed now; thanks!
One more i just found if Villanueva is alive, during the saliva healing it’s Van der Velde that came instead Villanueva
Screenshot?
fixed!
