Choice of Romance Part 3 - Til Death Do Us Apart - Review and Discussion

@dfabullich you can’t avoid he touch you can’t avoid he rape your mind in one play i got so bad stats that only choices was a For me ll dead options.

why include a dead curse that don’t work and don’t explain why i was more than 95 magic lol

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@MaraJade Is mind control really rape, in any sense?

@Drazen yes all forced action who obliged submit your will to pledged to desires of someone its rape"

@MaraJade Not really, no. I don’t think rape can meaningfully be detached from sexual assault. It seems to be to be a gross misuse of the term.

With medieval nutrition and health care, people could look old by 30… but in this context, you’d think Life Magic would take care of that. So yeah, I’m with P_Tigras on the implausibility of the age thing.

Still loved the game, though, and didn’t find the new side of de Vega’s personality quite as hard to swallow as others seem to have. He’s a quiet guy with a lot of secrets; so I thought the crush on you was fairly believable, and post-bereavement hookups are hardly a rarity.

ah so if a boy put q pistol in your mouth you has to touch my beard its no rape because for you that’s normal for him that’s pleasant and sexual

@MaraJade Now we’re just going to quibble over what constitutes sexual assault. But that doesn’t detach from the fact that the sexual element is necessary for rape.

he touch you with desire and you can’t avoid it ergo rape. @Drazen yes

@Jackrabbit I’d refer to Tigras post above. Essentially, Agustin is a (well executed) Henry VIII expy. And literally the only thing that changes with hir gender is the extra ‘a’ at the end. He’s a very manly dude, which is why I don’t find them credible as a woman.

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@MaraJade I’ll have to be careful next time I touch someone’s cheek without their consent, then. If that’s all it takes.

@Dreckitt you has heard about a Russian queen Called Catherine the great she was ninfomaniac and worse that Henry VIII all this a woman cant be strong and kill and be sexual active its sexist and inaccurate really inaccurate Bloody Mary Elizabeth Mazorie in transilvania think again before define could a woman could do or not

@Drazen you forget kill her mother dominated o all kingdom and probably he does off scene whatever he wants with people minds but for you dominate minds its ok touch you its ok and he undressed probably its ok. Well for me is nasty and cheap in a game with this category

@Dreckitt, what traits specifically did you think were not credible in a queen? Building on what Mara just pointed out, I think Agustina’s appetites, adulteries, ruthlessness, rages, and paranoia all have their parallels in ruling queens of Europe.

@P_Tigras has previously pointed out that there’s one scene in CoR where Agustin/a lifts your character effortlessly; that implies a major mass differential between the two of you which (AFAIR) is nowhere else described. But otherwise, I can’t think of a single trait that wouldn’t be plausible in a medieval European queen. Help me out…

I had a lot of fun with the end of the trilogy. I was really excited that de Vega was an option, since my character had the hots for him since the first game, and I was pretty sure he was never going to become an actual love interest. It was fun seeing him and my girl ride off into the sunset, even if the moral of her story seemed to be “if you kill enough people, you’ll get a happy ending.” :slight_smile:

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@FairyGodfeather: “Everyone is bi” is only really the case in the third game. Before then, your character has made an express choice of their sexual preference, which affects who tries to pick them up. The monarch was always bisexual and this was never an issue, but that was a character trait of the Monarch themselves.

So I can’t agree that it’s not a sudden shift.

@Havenstone: It could also mean that Death Magic allows a magical increase in general physical capability, though that’s more of a loony theory on my part. Or conversely, we know that fighting with Death Magic is a physically demanding activity, so Agustina could have a wiry, conditioned body from jousting training that allows her to lift several times her weight into the air (realistically, that kind of conditioning would be more inclined towards endurance than physical strength, but that can be taken as artistic license).

@Ramidel

I disagree. I think everyone is bi is a theme that permeates the entire game. It doesn’t come up as much if you’re playing a straight character, but it is there. I think a lot of the aspects of the society just don’t make sense if you assume a predominantly heterosexual society.

It’s possible that it’s the nobility who are just bisexual. We don’t really get to see much of the common folk. It’s possible that the existence of the life mage spells, despite their extreme cost, have helped create this society the way it is.

I’m not saying that your own character can’t be considered straight, just that in the game as a whole I would say this isn’t really seen as the norm.

@FairyGodfeather: I’m going from the clear fact that your character, in games 1 and 2, is monosexual. “Sexual orientation is not considered an issue in this society” is different from “sexual orientation does not exist in this world.”

If your character can have a defined sexual orientation, then “sexual orientation does not exist” is not true. If the first two games were “everyone is bi,” then I’d expect the game to look more like Zombie Exodus or Dragon Age 2 (not counting the Sebastian DLC), where there are characters to romance, and your character’s gender simply doesn’t enter into it.

I’m not saying that sexual orientation doesn’t exist, which is an entirely different matter. I’m saying that the majority of the populace, or at least the nobility, are bi. I had a long reply written out but I seem to have lost it. I think ultimately it doesn’t matter, we both have different interpretations and who knows how the authors intended things to be read.

I haven’t brought this installment yet, as I’ve struggled with the last two games. The MC seemed a tad…dramatic for me. I don’t know, I’ll try again from the top and see how things go.

@FallingCups If you didn’t like the first two games then you definitely won’t like the third one.