Choice of Rebels: Uprising — Lead the revolt against a bloodthirsty empire!

Hey thanks, i will try save the 2 poor guys :slight_smile:

I have around 15 educated followers and didn’t set much trap because most of my followers went to begging, sending children to foster home or hunting , and buying food :-):grin:

Oh, I just figured it out. If you hold them for ransom, throw an arrow on Castle Keriatou and wait until Chapter 4, you get the scene where they can be released.

If you hold him as a prisioner, I think they survive, but I don’t think you’ll see Horion and Linos on this game.

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How did you do that? You meant attack or raid the Keriatou ? :slight_smile:

Although i don’t like Hector, i am still reluctant to attack the Keriatou due to Calea .:wink:

When you pick the choice to ransom Horion, you’ll also have to choose how to let the Aristos of the Rim know about it. One of the choices is sending Linos to announce it, the other one I don’t remember, and the last one is to leave an arrow with a message on Castle Keriatou. Then, I think there’s a chance no one’s going to pick you up on that offer, and you can send them away.

But, y’know, you are sending Horion right back to Phyrga and Strategos Nomiki, and he’s not gonna like you for that.

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At least you save him , even though he might not had known it :slight_smile:

I may try this route , though i wonder how is Suzane’s reaction with it… ransoming innocent is not as honourable as she dream of our cause :-):sweat_smile:

I wanted to drop by and say that I just made a playthrough as a compassionate, devout and cosmopolitan Theurge who beat Hector’s veneurs in Chapter 3 and recruited in Chapter 2. It all went so well that I lost only 25 people in the winter and got ten more killed by Hector. All in all, I’m facing the Phalangites with six hundred and two followers, more than the five hundred troops themselves.

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Stop consorting with Xaos, you vile heretic!

Once the Hegemony is torn down and a new order is installed, will there be a possibility to install some kind of Communism? Well, socialism, in this case but something along the lines of Agrarian Socialism or Radical Religious Egalitarianism (or Atheist, if you go full Anarchist) like the Sassanid Mazdakites.

@Havenstone, there’s no way for Horion to live unless the MC takes him for ransom and realases him later, is there? I think I’ve reached a playthrogh where I just kidnapped him to thin the Phalangites’s numbers, and I don’t remember the game ever telling me he was dead, but I have a suspicion.

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Yeah, that’s right.

I’m hoping all / most of the “Horion died!” paths are actually evidence of his intellect and cunning, and he faked his death to protect himself.

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Apart from the ones where you directly murder him, of course.

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So do I. I like Horion as a character, and would love to see more of him. But if he did die, I’m confident in Havenstone’s skill when it comes to writing interesting failures. I’m pretty sure it’d make it harder to be buds with Teren and the Leaguers, thoigh.

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@Havenstone It did occur to me regarding the world map that with enough latitude longitude information, one could project that map back onto a sphere just to get an idea of the actual planet. Of course much of that planet would be unknown based on just that map so I thought about adding “Here there be monsters” to the unmapped areas in homage to old maps. Then it occurred to me that if Xaos storms ever go out to sea, there might actually be sea monsters. Do the Xaos storms ever go out to sea? Does the Sun rise in the east and set in the west in XOR world? The Earth happens to rotate to make that the case for us, but there is no reason it could not work differently on a different planet and I cannot recall it being mentioned.

From a recent addition to the XOR Wiki Wards page:

There is obviously some ambiguity around what constitutes a weapon. Rope can cross a Ward despite its potential use to attack people. So can a stick that has not been too blatantly shaped into a bludgeon or spear. Any metal object with a sharp edge, however, will be stopped by a Ward, even if (as with a spade) it is most often used for non-violent purposes. People’s teeth ache and tingle when crossing a Ward, as more than any other body part the teeth have “attacking” as part of their telos.

Just out of curiosity, does this only affect incisors and canine teeth or molars as well?

@Havenstone Is the experience different for those trained in unarmed combat? What about fingernails and does any effect for fingernails vary based on their length?

On a different note, from XOR Wiki Agricultural Theurgy:

The herb mullow, which sedates the homunculi in both male and female seed, was carefully bred by Theurges to be a completely effective contraceptive. The shrub yam, helots’ primary food, was tweaked to have the opposite effect.

My MC is going to react VERY strongly to finding that out.

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As would mine, believe me. Fortunately, it does not change sexual orientation, so he’s pretty sure he doesn’t have any brats that might complicate things later on. :sweat_smile:
Luckily the primary food of the rebellion thus far has been meat and grain, with not much mention in-game of yam.

This should be less of a problem when part of the goal is expropriating the oppressors and most big land-owners are part of the “nobility”.

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My Alya will laud that. Ronia won’t really expect any different - it’s the Hegemony, of course they’re going to increase the reproduction of their mage fodder.

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@Havenstone What sort of currency does Halassur use? The reason I ask is that in the long term if it becomes necessary to fight Halassur, while counterfeiting the Hegemony’s currency might be counter-productive due to it causing economic harm locally, I anticipate fewer qualms with devastating Halassur’s economy with counterfeit currency. How well would Telos-vision detect counterfeits? Ideally they would be made to pass for real currency so would they have the Telos of being real money?

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Terrific article, thanks! But as I’ve said somewhere recently, paper currency isn’t used in the gameworld, and flooding Halassur with gold and silver coins wouldn’t I think occur to people as a helpful warfare strategy.

It’s an interesting question in theory of whether paper money printed by the Halassur Central Bank would have a visibly different telos from that printed by Iasoun Imprestor of Soretto. I’m inclined to say that it would be very hard to distinguish them, as both fundamentally have the telos of “being trusted to pay for things,” and a telos-sniffer looking for “intent to deceive” would probably find it on both

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Well we could mint coins with different concentrations of precious metals, the coin equivalent of counterfeiting. With the right combination of metals, we could probably match the density of the real thing at a fraction of the cost of the usual metals.

That was in response to one of my questions. Sorry, I misinterpreted the answer as applying only to the Hegemony.

Where does the Hegemony mint its coins anyway? Just in Aekos? What is the status of foreign coin use in the Hegemony? Does pretty much every country use the drachem and stater combination? Is there any foreign coin preferred for use in trade sort of like the Maria Theresa thaler?

Given how decentralized aetherial blood collection is, I’d be surprised if there isn’t a black market for aetherial blood. It would be extremely risky for the Rebellion to try buying aetherial blood on the black market, but it may be a worthwhile option to attempt under the right circumstances. If a black market for aetherial blood exists, what would be the hypothetical price in coin for a vial of aetherial blood?

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Theurges can detect forgeries? Interesting…