You are an exception, not the norm. Those at top rarely understand how hard and high the climb really is.
Not that exceptional, but yes my character is someone who very much fancies not going back to life of a dumb farm-animal and meek subservience again, once it’s all over, if that requires drastic, radical measures, so be it.
Well, you might actually have a blood relation if what the Keriatous are bragging about is true since you your self do indeed have a blood relation with them. If you don’t know they are de lelitou and not de lelle and then your father confronts you, then you ask horion about wether or not he would have been archon at some point that rumor is slipped into the scene. So actually, you wouldn’t need to forge anything seeing as a larger and more powerful house did all that work for you. Your claim could actually be legitimate if the keriatou arnt lying. Seeing as how much they have to lose simply from speaking about it, I cannot see why loyal dogs of the karagond would support such a claim. Your honor does you no credit if there is a kryptast’s blade in your back after all. And yeah, I was talking about a noble MC. My helot play through is a goete that kills anyone who isn’t with him, and isn’t really interested in becoming the nobles he slays lol.
Thoroughly enjoying the conversation, and will only pop in on a couple of points:
Well, once you’ve gone and built your capital on and around a floating mountain, it’s bloody difficult (and embarrassing) to let the thing drop.
While much of your analysis captures the mindset well, @P_Tigras, I don’t think this does justice to how a highly stratified caste society judges the people at the bottom. (Maybe because my writing so far hasn’t done justice to it either!) Most nobles would have the default assumption that even a thoroughly dumb or corrupt noble is still naturally superior – ethically and intellectually – to the helotry. (It helps that most of them meet very few helots, and almost always on terms that reinforce the prejudices.)
A fairly open-minded noble might get as far as to think that the smartest helot beats out the dumbest noble; you can be sure that Horion Leilatou believes that lots of his acquaintances are dumber than a smart helot. But to think that the average helot is smarter than a dumb noble is a pretty big shift from the conventional wisdom.
The standard answer on this (to anyone digging into that dangerous bit of history) would be that the Karagonds identified the lower-natured people and gave them work fitting their telos. Since the helots were by nature ill-equipped to learn to feed themselves, the Thaumatarch thereby saved the realm from the frequent famines that had been its lot before the helots were separated from the yeomanry.
And while we’re talking about avoiding famine, the people you’ll find you need most are the agricultural Theurges rather than the noble landowners of the big estates – the latter (and their stewards and yeoman reeves, who in most cases will be the ones who manage the agriculture) have been dependent on the former for some time now.
Ah, damn… now do I have to write a choice of species for the ROs too?
Too much fun not to write. Should be up there now.
I want to make sure there are some special options only available to helots and others to aristos. But, yep, it does.
It means you’ll neither alienate nor inspire the devout and the skeptical people out there in the world. And I think the religions of the gameworld were listed a thousand-odd posts ago.
It’s more an early introduction to some noble characters who you’ll meet in Grand Shayard in game 2.
But they’re not Hegemonic authorities. They’re part of the fabric of Shayardene society; attacking them may well be justified, but it’s a different kettle of fish than going after Telones and Alastors.
In answering the question, Linos is speaking for the elite priests of the noble families who travel with them to Shayard; his implication is that most other priests don’t encounter enough Theurges to form an opinion other than the one they’re given.
Oh boy, do they ever. If you spend more time with the de Tomans in Game 2, you can see them. 
This old man says you totally are, and I’ve been around long enough to know.
Now back to writing Yed Gaverne, the man who crashes into your camp having spent a year in the Xaos-lands…
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Is Yed Gavorne a Helot? Or is a intelligent fellow?
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Still get this bug when keeping both Simon and Horion hostage when deciding to go after the sheep: “strangers2 line 3695: Invalid expression, couldn’t extract another token: #I also include ${kalt}.”
Love the new bit with Linos, the look on his face makes sparing his life worth it.
Not that those two need to be mutually exclusive. Given what we know so far his name suggests he’s either a former yeoman or a former helot though.
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That’s odd. The wiki says you get that error when you use non-English characters…
Or in this case, when one of my choices doesn’t have a *goto at the end of it. Thanks, idnlun.
And Yed is a former ostler’s hand and burglar from the Southriding.
My character says this:
"A horse is more intelligent and loyal than twenty helots. Stupid dirty helots, shouting all day… Surrounding me and talking with that stupidity tone with familiarity. Like if I am one of them, filthy peasants… ’
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Well, then that wiki is rather misleading, isn’t it.
Plot twist: the Abhumans are literally just furries… or laguz lmao[quote=“Havenstone, post:3147, topic:1601”]
Too much fun not to write. Should be up there now.
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Incredible. Truly inspiring. [quote=“poison_mara, post:3147, topic:1601”]
I thought i was getting better with English.
[/quote] Mara, I’ve known you since you first joined, and it’s amazing how well your English had improved and how far you’ve come! You should feel proud! Anyone who hates on you is just jealous of your skill and determination!
tempest hobo, lmao
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Or, possibly, unnerved by the breadth and intensity of her fascination with murder, slavery, and torture…
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@Dominic I don’t have fascination with murder slavery or and torture. I ROLE-PLAYING a character who is that way. It’s like saying if you play x video games you are a psycho. Or comics make kids shooting people in their schools… Or thinking that Anthony Hawkins is a cannibal because he acted as Annibal Lecter. Myself I am a normal person who volunteered in a pet clinic during my law school and now is studying her second mayor on history. Sorry I am tired of that sort of comments many of them insulting me and called me degenerated , pycho and other bad words. I am just so tired of it
We’re making a joke, Mara. We know you’re sweet, but many of your characters, called Mara, have a fascination with this stuff and that’s what we’re joking about, how you push for more evil and poisonous options for your characters so enthusiastically!
We’re sorry if we offended. It was all in good fun, but it’s not fun if it’s not funny to you too. I’m sorry.
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I know you are, but I was talking to that random you that lurking in the shadows and attacks me on pms clling me this and that.So for them Stop insulting me, if you don’t like me block me from your list or flag me to the mods.
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As any lower caste person in modern India will tell it’s a very pernicious thing to try and root out.
Hence why a true cultural revolution is needed alongside, or at least directly following the one to overthrow the Hegemony. As my MC alone, however formidable he may become as a mage won’t be enough to shatter those perceptions, unless drastic measures are implemented.
If they are a separate class from the combat theurges that might greatly simplify things.
Indeed. People vary substantially with that kind of thing. I’m rather a softie, even in games - have to kind of psych myself up to even attempt ‘evil routes,’ and it’s harder doing so the stronger the characterization is. Despite a dozen or so runs through the first few chapters here, I’ve still never killed Horion and Linos, nor held Simon for ransom, nor…well, a number of other nasty choices.
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Neither did I. The most evil stuff I did was raid a Temple within harm a fly only talking . No raids, not attacking tax man not anything 1 of anarchy. No blood spilled
Really? You haven’t indulged in the bloodier options the game offers?
…why on earth not?