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Hiya, back again with more potential typos/logic errors:
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Is this supposed to say elseif learning = 75 ?
Why does choosing to meet with Saine instead of Ilya automatically kill any romance with Ilya when you don’t have to choose to be ace? If you choose to meet with Leon it doesn’t automatically remove any Ilya romance, it only takes it off when you choose to kiss him in response to confession. So why is this flag up here instead of specifically when you confess to Saine that you are ace?
Furthermore, if polyamory isn’t allowed between Ilya and Leon (which I assume not because the kiss auto removes any Ilya romance), then it should also be removed when you let Leon know that you feel the same way about him in some of the options under “I need more time”
“even through scars and searing heat, we burn”?
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Why couldn’t we simply walk up to Ilya and activate the arcane collar to show her what was going on? Is it impossible to detect by an outside party? Would getting rid of it take too much time? I feel like even if the collar was broken even a day earlier than our arrival to kill the saintess it would have made a gigantic difference. (Yes, I know the collar originally took 7 years to go away before sister replenished it, but that was without us having access to the magical resources of an entire country and so many mages)
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I’m pretty sure the collars are not only invisible, but also “not there” in a physical sense. They certainly can’t be worked by the wearer (which would defeat their purpose), and part of the collar magic is probably “you can’t talk about the collar”, otherwise it’d be pretty useless.
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I know that all that, by activate I mean the MC trying to talk about either the collar or sister’s plan in front of Ilya or any other mage for the purpose of having them detect the collar. The collar couldn’t have been impossible to detect by someone else when it’s activated infront of them, could it?
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MC was probably brought in the dungeons immediately without visiting a healer or such. Ilya and other mages weren’t allowed in by Leon’s order ig. When she did try to visit (and rescue) the MC they didn’t have time to get to that because of… Ante. I can’t with this woman 
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Gotta give it to her that her stealth and reaction time are impeccable.
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The only thing I can give her is an inappropriate gesture… I wanted to attach a picture of a pretty innocent one that is often used where I live, but then I googled it and found out that it can possibly offend someone from Arab countries o.o
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It OUGHT to be. Otherwise, it’d be useless. If something which function it is to keeps secrets sends out a ping whenever it’s keeping a secret, it’s a pretty crappy secret-keeper.
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I was thinking the same thing. Rather than doing so afterwards to Ilya in the dungeons, however, I was thinking that the MC could have tried to activate the collar on someone shortly after the battle with Sister.
When everyone is cheering that the battle is over, it doesn’t stop the MC from making an expression of distress or something. The MC could have asked for a volunteer and activated the collar for a harmless “secret” (like which hand am I holding this rock in or something). I feel like there should be a line explicitly detailing that the MC doesn’t know how to cast the spell because, otherwise, I don’t see how someone wouldn’t try to get the word out that something is wrong thru that method.
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I mean…By this logic every spell ever ought to succeed every time, since they’re designed to do so. Yet they are not perfect, and sister hardly had any time at all to ensure the spell’s perfection. Though, we know too little about the mechanics and specifics of the collar to come to a conclusion either way as of now, I guess.
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The collar works to hold a specific secret, in this case, the bomb and the fact that they have a collar in the first place, along with who put it. And is stated during the interrogation that it activates even when you are thinking about talking in the first place.
I think we should leave it as part of the plot, though I did wonder about why MC didn’t try to show it at some point.
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My mc really wants to know how those things work and how they can be defeated, after having been a victim of them thrice now. Of course that was information Mireil purged before the mc could get back to Thaubal’s lab. 
And, sadly, the chances of learning about it in Arcadia or from the mysterious backer of the twins seems slim to none. 
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Yes, that’s pretty much the first thing that would come to mind if I was in that sort of situation. Just be chatting amiably with Slaine/Ilya, bring up “There’s something important I need to–” and then just start choking on the collar right then & there in front of them.
It would be impossible to get across the message about the bomb or the collar itself, but it would tip them off that something is really wrong in that situation.
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Don’t they? Barring specific circumstances like Magebane signs or your mana ducts not being able to handle the stress, I can’t think of a time when spells just fail. If you Banecircle, what you get is an effect fully fulfilling the parameters of Banecircle, not a “roll d% and see if it works properly.” A Mage Reborn’s magic is basically just a branch of science - you do X, and you get Y, reproducibly.
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I forgot to tackle this. I was under the (perhaps erroneous) impression that Sister doesn’t cast a collar on you, she merely activates the one Thaubal put on you with different triggers. Isn’t it what is referred to in Sister’s journal as the MC being the victim of “an ancient curse”?
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I think ‘‘ancient curse’’ as in old magic, not that the spell is from then. That she just learned how to do it herself.
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Hm, I was under the impression it was the same, reactivated collar. Thanks.
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I didn’t mean it like that, moreso that if you have someone else with similar skill working to foil it, we see magic here being foiled a lot of times, same with curses, so, unless the collar was literally perfect and impossible to detect(which I find hard to believe, given that every other spell seems to be able to be detected given that they run on mana, and you can detect mana) it should have been possible to detect it by someone.
This is, again, just speculation on my part based on how other spells seem to work, which is impossible to prove one way or the other until we get the specifics of how the spell works, or the specifics of mana/spell detection, for that matter, as there are a bunch of times where mages of very high caliber(us and Ilya) fail to detect someone casting magebane.
This got me thinking, though. I wonder if theurges can cast a painkilling spell? We could have gotten a theurge to cast that on us to negate the effects of the collar either compeletely or partially, then just power through explaining sister’s plan. But I digress.
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