WIP Those Betwixt

Thanks for letting me know, I’m looking into the issue now, must be some misplaced tag somewhere. Sorry about that :slight_smile:

Okay, I just changed some things, and play tested with the options you made, and its all good for me. I updated the dashingdon files. So I hope the problems fixed now.

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I grab any chance I can play as Malkavian/Golgotha or whatever similar house. Reminds me of Diogenes.

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@Sel_Lee

Hey, glad the idea of playing as one of the Omnituens appeals!

One of my eventual goals is to replace every dialogue option with unique ones for the ‘Malkavian clan’, because they are my personal faves. But I know that’s gonna be one big undertaking lol

Anywho, I hope you enjoy the game. Don’t hesitate to shoot me a message with any feeback, critical or otherwise.

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Yesss
I haven’t actually played VTM (no nvidia), but I did play Red Embrace: Hollywood as a Golgotha, and the feeling of finally being seen and represented was intense. Some other players said golgothan philosophical musings made no sense but it made every sense and I was so excited lol
No better feeling than to find some others that See the things you see when no one else seems to.

“In the centuries to come, we’ll look back on ourselves like we have, time and time again, and smile at our quaint ideas. Smile at the idea of religion like we now smile at little children – smile at gravity like we now smile at those who thought the world flat – smile at simple morality like we now smile at apes. We look back on the ‘atrocities’ of earlier days and say, ‘Times were diffrent then’. But I desire to look from the future to the present, to see what we will one day consider primitive and backwards thinking – these outdated ideas we’ve carried past their lifetime.” - Markus (Red Emrace: Hollywood)

I’d like to say we’re the sanest, but that’s what a mad person would say lol

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@Sel_Lee

Oh, I remember playing Red Embrace Hollywood ages ago. It was so sad, but so good.

I romanced Markus first ofc.

I also love all the philosophical musings clans like Malkavians bring to a story too. I just wish I was better at writing them. To think I focused quite a bit on nihilistic thinkers in philosophy at uni, and yet I’m so bad at writing such musings :sob:

Right now I’m replaying Disco: Elysium, to try and get some inspiration for the Omnituens scenes. I might have to replay Red Embrace too. :relaxed:

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I found a big bug. I’ve managed to find Nefise and question her, but I always get interrupted by a scene where police show up. Then I’m asked to find Nefise again and the cycle repeats? It’s quite confusing.

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On it; looking into it now. Thanks for letting me know.

Okay, I just edited the files. And play tested it. And all is well, I think. Sorry about that.

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There was a typo somewhere where you used plural but I forgot where, oops
There’s anothere here

Calder, from what you could gather, was a man of short yet well proportion stature.

The first physical characteristic which drew your attention, as it had during his interaction withJulian

Could we have a blurb if you choose to name yourself as the thing Julian/Juliana nicknames you as? I quite liked the nickname Lunae. Also blurbs when you choose the same name as an existing character. Naming an mc Calder and then meeting another Calder after three seconds would be awkward.

// also, heh… King Julian.

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@Sel_Lee

Thanks for those, will update the files now.

And yeah ofc! I’ll make sure to add that with the next update :slight_smile:

Bug Fixes

I just uploaded a new version which fixes an endless loop in the Omnituens route. Darn my imprecise use of indentations :sweat_smile:

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Another bug:
Regarding the hobo hierographics scene, you put *if (Streetwise >=10) [blurb], *if (Intelligence >=20) [blurb] and so on. That way it repeats all the blurbs for players who have more than one stat pass for those. You have to do an *else if chain.

Also, if you click hobo option first, you can’t get back to choosing to stuff Irk into the cat flap.

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I’m still getting the bug as if I brought Nefise with me for Calder even though I gave her to Julianas people and told Jack and the other one.

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smiles with a crazy glint in her eyes

Darth Darth Darth, oh how I love thee!

Madness is infectious and I’m the bubonic plague in an age of colds! Are you the rat carrying me around or the cute little virus that birthed me into existence?

Time will tell. Time will tell.

Love it!

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Gosh, you have me really torn now. I’m not sure if I want to go for Juliana or the Jack+Human poly relationship doing my main playthrough now :joy: It’s awful, but I love it because it proves that they’re all amazing characters after all. But hearing how Calder treated Arcadia, only made me dislike him even more than I already did x3

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@Sel_Lee

Thanks for pointing these out. The files are updated, that bug with the *if statements is fixed, and you can also now try another route outside the house if you change your mind on Jack’s hobo route. :joy:

@Artemis1

That’s so strange that it’s still happening for you, it came up all good in mine, I’m so sorry! I can’t find what’s causing the problem, so for now I uploaded a band aid fix, just setting the variables again after admitting to Andreas and Jack of your betrayal, so it should work fine now, cross fingers.

Thanks for letting me know about it, I really appreciate it :slight_smile:

@Lycanthromorphic

Haha, thanks for your feedback, glad your liking the weird and wacky stuff I’m trying to add in. I hope to add more soon!

@Cyphr Ahhhh, I’m so glad to hear that. :heart_eyes:

I’m hoping some people change their minds regarding their first impressions of characters once they find out more about them in the solo one on one scenes. The one’s who might come off as initially the most kind and sincere might not be quite to innocent, and vice versa.

And, yeah, the Arcadia story line is rather messed up. But I don’t want to shy away from darker topics. And yes Calder is a trash man, but he has reasons for being so. So maybe you wont hate him quite as much if you explore his backstory. Or then again, you might loathe him, cause he can go batshit crazy and kill both Arcadia and Andreas in one route of his personal story. So yeah, I’m real excited to write that lol :sweat_smile:

Thanks again for leaving feedback, it really helps me gauge if I’m on the right route, with the writing. :slight_smile:

SPOILER INFO

I totally forgot to mention that you can block yourself off from some romances in this chapter. Firstly you can block yourself off from a Calder romance if you admit to Andreas you betrayed them to Julian/a.

Secondly, you can block off a ‘consensual’ romance with Arcadia, if you sleep with them (regardless if you are ‘nice’ or ‘cruel’ about it), and also if you feed them your blood against their will or if they are unconscious.

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Oh yeah, speaking of which, you should put content warnings regarding Arcadia. ex. abuse/sexual abuse (not mc)

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I put a trigger warning in the update post, but I’m going to put it in the main post now. Thanks for reminding me :slight_smile:

Arcadia made me just, so sad. I want him to be happier! I’ll try my best to do that even if i don’t romance him! I’m also loving how in my first run of this game i kinda just acted however i wanted without a particular image or purpose in my mind, and i became quite a contradictory person/vampire! Where i betrayed Calder by lying to the historian and got her captured by Julian (which honestly i don’t know what her fate will be but i can’t imagine it’ll be very pleasant) and then lied to both Andreas and Jake about it. But i feel like that tense situation is making Calders true colours show where he’s not the kind of person who’ll love you even if you’re not useful to him. The more you fail the more his cold and cruel personality shows and honestly i want Jack and Andreas to get away from that, they deserve better! It sounds good when i say it like that but it’s still very manipulative though. :joy: Not to mention Julian is still very much a murder happy pupp- i mean vampire! But i think it would physically hurt me to be mean to Arcadia, props to you for being able to write all that. I hope i can bring him with me/free him when and if Calders whole clique or whatever gets all fucked up because of me. :joy:

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