United We Stand - Political WIP

Sounds nice. Hopefully Herta will rise with me, so we can rid the country of all the Reds who are currently trying to worm their way into office.

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If your a fascist, will you be able to help the Germans when they occupy Morovia, and if so do you get special benefits out of it, like becoming a reichskommissar or something like that.

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@phantom1321 why would you want to do that?

Edit: to clarify, I don’t see the appeal of a nazi collaborator sim. Like seriously

But for more canon reasons, Riga hates the Germans (see the history of Moravia in the stats screen) and led the WWI resistance. As stated a few posts back, if the end result is a fascist Moravia then when they get invaded again in WW2, Riga will once again lead the resistance movement, rather than collaborating.

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Oh, leading a resistance makes more sense, and I was only thinking about realism and that if you play as a fascist you might want to side with the Germans because they are fascist but by no means I like the Nazis.

That makes sense. Last question: will we be able to effect the ideology of the party or are we just more or less moderate fascist/socialist?

But there is no logic in New Order siding with the Nazis.
New Order was founded in part because of Riga’s hate against Germany, several of it’s member (including the MC) share his hatred because of what Germany did with Moravia in WWI.

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I believe that you made a mistake of adjactive.

"Do you know what I most happy about?" Herta declares.

“Do you know what I am happeist about?” Herta declares.

I can see your point here, but, I kind of think ‘most happy’ sounds a little better in this sentence. It just feels more natural to say most happy rather than happiest (in this very particular context). That might just be my colloquial English though.

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Since it is character dialogue, I’d go with what makes sense for your Herta … it makes her dialogue more “real” with “most happy” too… imo.

Sorry, missed this question when I logged on earlier. Yes, there will be a stat that is not currently being tracked (but will very soon) which basically measures the party stance, and there will be a moderate or hardline outcome for both fascist and socialist paths. The moderate Solidarity path results in you pursuing cooperation with other democratic parties (mainly SDP) to fight off the fascist threat whereas the more hardline ignores potential allies and pursues the goal of a socialist republic.

Similarly, the more moderate fascist path includes more cooperation with National Bloc and the creation of an authoritarian system under the monarchy, and the hardline is a full on fascist state.

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Alex, who changed your title because I’m not sure you want it to say: “Punch Fascists (or socialists)” do you? If you can’t change it, I can if this is not what you want…

I just played through the socialist side and had a blast.

One question - I backed Wulf in the budget fight and we spiked the amendment, although the budget itself still passed. At the time, the text told me we won our little battle (I kept the Solidarity MPs from defecting). But later, in a meeting with party leadership, Wulf said I humiliated her. Is that because the budget still went through? I’m playing an MC who is starry eyed over Wulf and would have found it crushing to hear her tell other party members she was a disappointment.

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Changed it back :sunglasses:

Aww, thanks. This is exactly the sort of comment which motivates me to write.

Ah, simple error on my part, I had Wulf’s reaction at that meeting tied to the wrong amendment outcome. Fixed now, thanks very much for the spot.

Also decided I’d do a little improvement and added some suggested names as most CoG games do to the opening sequence.

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Aren’t we all a little starry eyed over Wulf?

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Loved the update two tiny spelling errors I noticed:

“A dull but competant competent man”

“You know what Kovak, this me trying to me be nice, as hard as that might be”

The cliffhanger this time was certainly ominous for my poor mc.

Nope, not really my mc would be more starry eyed over Pierre, by the way why did you change his name from Anton, cause I liked that one better.

I wonder with my more democratically inclined main mc is a semi-democratic third way possible, where Solidarity and Wulf more or less ride popularity like the ANC did (and still does) in modern South Africa and there is a genuinely democratic opposition who just cannot get the votes to do anything significant together until after the death of Wulf in the late 70’s?

Oh thank God for that. I was a little worried that I might get forced to be a hardliner or risk getting killed or something if I didn’t toe the party line in certain playthroughs even if I was successful during certain events.

You know what would be awesome? If the Order fought something akin to the Nazis in a sequel.

Fun fact: Hitler actually identified himself and his movement as a Socialist one. This is obviously wrong, but it just goes to show how much of a smooth talker he was. He awakened the passion within a bunch of people, it simply wasn’t for a good cause.

Thanks for the typos @idonotlikeusernames will correct them soon.

Glad you enjoyed the update though, despite the ominous ending!

No, fair enough… With the name thing I don’t know, I just thought Pierre sounded better. I couldn’t think of any frenchmen named Anton and thought it was a name a bit too similar in flavour to the Moravian characters.

Great idea. I was planning that post war, the SDP and Solidarity merge, a bit like the East German Socialist Unity Party. So if you choose the pro-democratic, popular front approach, then this party becomes an ANC style elected dictatorship where no party can compete with them (until late 70s, a bit like the Congress party in India). Otherwise, you have a Tito style 3rd way socialist republic.
For the fascists, the moderate path would produce a repressive one party state, with some opposition (from within the official channels, e.g. the party and sanctioned unions) like 1960’s Franco’s Spain vs a full on fascist state, like 40’s Franco’s Spain.

In the sequel you will get the choice to side with either hardliners or reformers from your party

Yeah… not really. He was pretty clear that he hated socialism and socialists were persecuted/killed. The movement adopted the methods and organisation-style of Germany’s social democrats and the colour red for their banners but little else aside from a bit of anti-capitalist rhetoric (laced with anti-semitism) which was quickly dropped once they came to power. The more socialist-inclined faction of the party around Gregor Strasser was basically forced out in late 1932. Fascism did learn lessons from socialism in terms of how to appeal to the masses and they did take the part of socialism about unity and everyone working together and redirect it towards national unity and wanting everyone to pull together for the ‘people’s community’ and perceived national good.

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There is no way I can play the Solidarity path now, it remember me too much what is happening in my country.

Really? Do you mind me asking what country that is?

Brazil.
20 char limit.