To play a bit of devil’s advocate here, book 3 is also the book where the MC got a building literally dropped on them and was still able to attempt to pull a woman away from a 10 foot bird man who’s built like a tank (from what I can remember).
Disclaimer: I didn’t get the ending where MC gets trapped so I can’t comment on that part.
I’m also going to play devil’s advocate here, as I am currently replaying the 3 books to see what has been altered in the last update (which is a surprising amount!) and in bk1 where the MC says its nice to have everything out in the open or words to that effect, F says, to Rebecca, something along the lines of “everything?” so there must be a big reveal about Rebecca (or the MC) at some stage. I’m assuming it might have something to do with Rebecca. I do wonder at the amount of power Rebecca wields since she is merely a handler, also there are some missing years. MC was two when Rook died, and Rebecca has been in charge of Bravo for 10 years. The MC is obviously somewhere in their mid 20s at least, if not nearer 30 from the career choice after uni or college the way real life works, so there is 10 or more years missing in Rebecca’s career with the Agency.
It’s the Council stuff.
Wasn’t she supposed to have given up the Chamber after Rook died?
Oh, you’re right, duh. Disregard. XD
The agency gives me bad feelings…
I dread the part where the game is kind of steering the MC towards becoming a pillar member. Like, please just let the MC go, you all are very sus 
Most likely, Rebecca will sacrifice herself to save mc from whatever villain of the day /book while an orchestra plays in the background, and MC will “honor” her memory by becoming director, manager, or whatever.
Nooo 
I couldn’t care less about Rebecca, but MC certainly will.
Is it too much to hope the game will honor players who chose to be distant/hate Rebecca and couldn’t care less about her memory?
Like. At all. Rebecca is not very… popular, so to speak.
It does guilt-trip the hell out of the player/mc. My beloved child, (that I utterly ignored for most of your childhood), don’t you trust me and this shady organization?
The question is… why can’t the organization just execute the dangerous criminals (for the lack of a better term) rather than containing them and making them even more mad? That is confusing. If they want to torture or hurt the criminals, they can just do so before killing them… can’t they?
This organization is shady, cruel, and incompetent 
Ugh hate Rebecca…also annoys me sm how N is always trying to get mc to reconcile with her. Like you’re not my RO- you’re only just a friend. Quit it.
According to Sera, the in-universe explanation is that the supernaturals that contributed to starting the Agency didn’t want humans to have power over who lived and who died.
Which, tbf, I think is pretty valid reasoning. Not going to go into personal beliefs in a Wayhaven thread, but needless to say it’s not an unpopular or unheard of opinion. It’s just very unfortunate that the alternative is a nightmare chamber which can be attributed to torture. I think it probably would’ve been easy to reason, from everything we’ve seen, if it was just stated that “They’re kept in specially designed cells, most of which are made up of extremely dense aluminum alloy so they can’t break free, and are given food and small forms of enrichment through a mechanical delivery service.”
Then again, I have a feeling it was meant to be divisive from the different responses our PC can have about it.
It is. I’ve met humans. I mean, supernaturals aren’t any better, but still.
I get more of a feeling that it’s more of a thing where you can disagree but you’re wrong to do so, with how hard Rebecca comes against your disagreement.
Joke’s on Sera, I’ve seen Rebecca’s judgement. It’s not great.
Still, we might as well see what happens to the whole shebang in the rewrite. That should clarify things.
I really don’t think she’d kill Rebecca. R may do something “heroic” to save the MC (and I will throw up), but she’d only kill randos (like random children) instead of any of the main cast. Plus, Rebecca is too much of a Mary Sue to ever lose a fight, hence why the trapper thing goes down perfectly if she goes along.
That was another lost opportunity in the story. It would’ve been a hell of a lot more interesting if she had gotten caught and thrown in a cell with the MC and they would’ve had to work together to get out and take the trappers down. Working together could’ve made MCs who hate Rebecca swallow their pride and (possibly) gain a bit of respect for her (and she for them), and they could’ve still done it without needing to be rescued by UB (it’s different having someone who is supposedly capable trapped with you than having someone like Bobby or Douglas). Could’ve been fun. Instead, it was just lame and propped Rebecca up even more as some kind of perfect goddess who can single-handedly take on an army without mussing her hair (seriously, at least have her get a wound!).
Because she’s a compulsive liar. That’s literally the only quality she seems to have. There’s no depth to her character past, “Oh she’s perfect! Don’t you feel bad for not kissing her ass? Look, she’s teary eyed!” 
This is so accurate.
All true. Better to endlessly torture people than actually find a way to deal with their terrorism.
To be fair, how is that different than anyone else in this series? With the exception of Elidor, every character seems to be a complete and utter fucking moron at most points in the story.
This is Verda erasure and I will not stand for it.
I guess I can add Verda to the list. For you… 
I didn’t like his attitude on the route where he learns about the supernatural. Running away from Wayhaven was illogical–does he think the only supernaturals in the world live there? They’re everywhere. At least Wayhaven is smaller, so he could keep an eye out for “new” people who might be a threat. Running away was silly.
I never let anyone learn, because at least ONE field agent has to have basic competency in this latrine of an agency, but by this time you already know that there’s going to be an influx of sn to Wayhaven because of the MC, don’t you? 
Wayhaven has a very high sn-to-normie ratio.
In my first run of b2, Dezh let Verda learn. Her reasoning: Verda is more competent than 99.99999% of the Agency, and if anyone could find a cure to magical leprosy, it’s Verda. Unfortunately, for him to figure it out, he’d have to figure out there were supernaturals, and he was already on that route, so… she just left him to figure it out.
Then I saw how it ended at the end of b2 and Dezh felt like shit. Throw in the invitation to Mason to go to dinner–the invitation to Mason was one of the worst written scenes I’ve encountered in this game, because it didn’t fit how MC should relate to Mason and it didn’t allow for a MC who has a fucking brain, didn’t allow the MC to actually explain anything, and didn’t allow for some empathy over how the vampires would feel about some rando finding out–and I was over that route. Now, no one learns. I am sad over what could’ve been, however, and have my own version of how it all went down that is my canon.
You do know by then that you’re supposedly going to have an influx of supernaturals, but we have yet to actually see it. Because “it’s not time” yet, probably, and because there’s no needed angst from it yet.
As for the ratio, I don’t think there are that many in Wayhaven. I thought Sera made a comment about that. I’ll have to see if I can dig it up.
But, yeah, I get where you’re coming from (or rather, where Verda would be coming from, since I assume the MC told him about their special blood that all supes want).
Just a head’s up…
The b4 demo will be releasing tomorrow for patrons on the $5 tier and up, if that’s something you’re salivating over and don’t want to wait a week or two. Be forewarned it’s only one chapter, though.
