I know she said there won’t be a choice to “break up” with a LI, but I wonder if she’ll make an exception for the LT so MCs who ‘make their choice’ early on could do so and end the triangle. From a coding aspect, she could just force the MC to follow the path for the one they choose (A or N) from that point on. I guess the hardest part would be having to write the effects of the choice on the other one, since the LT will keep going until late in the series, but storywise, it would make a lot of sense to give a couple of outs for the LT along the way (kinda mirroring the several opportunities we’ll get to “have fun” with M along the way).
I think if someone makes the choice for the LT, then they’ve made the choice. If it makes them that uncomfortable, then they may want to pick a solo path now (Lord knows I can’t handle it). If one wants the angst that comes with the triangle, then I would caution to be prepared for the emotional ups and downs for a while. What’s the point of doing the LT path if someone wants to quit it right away? Players can always switch with each game.
Likening it to whether you are getting physical or not with M is a false equivalency. It’s not the same thing because you are in a relationship with M regardless.
I think Sera will have to keep the LT going for quite some time into the series if it’s to be considered a viable path.
Good luck to those picking that route! XD
Come to think of it, if you are editing it that must mean you are combing very route including the LT one.
How do you manage it!? All the angst!! >~<
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You apparently didn’t understand what I said, so I will try again…
The comparison I made was from a coding perspective. In M’s path, you will get to choose whether to bang or not, so from a coding perspective, the same option to cut bait could be offered in the LT to make your choice (instead of "do you want to have ‘fun’ with M?’ you’d get ‘are you ready to choose between N & A?’). From a story aspect, that’s not something Sera would consider, but I simply pondered the possibility as something that could be offered as a special exception to the fact that we can’t break-up with LIs after we’ve made our choice. Does that clarify?
On a side note: Actually, you aren’t in a relationship with M. You’re in a flirtation with them for a long time before it ever becomes a relationship way down the line. After all, end of book 1, he doesn’t give a crap about the MC yet, and won’t for a long while, so calling that a relationship is incorrect–buildup is not a relationship. Of course, by clarifying that little bit, I answered my own question as to why an early out in the LT isn’t possible, since I assume the LT is a flirtation/buildup to a relationship with whoever the MC chooses in the end.
So I guess the dragged out bunch of angst is the point of the LT, so most people choose it for the pain and drama. Anyone who goes that path and decides they don’t like it can always switch paths in the next book, much like anyone who gets too frustrated with the lack of progress in M or A’s paths can do the same.
Loudly and with a lot of decorations
Unfortunately, that doesn’t tend to happen. Instead they will likely try to convince the others to at least go out for the night, which N will then make sure the rest of the team actually do, lol.
Well! * rolls up sleeves * our detective is sure going to wake things up. Let’s bring on balloons more colourful than those they got us when we were in hospital, and a huge unicorn cakes! Imagine F’s face if we come in wearing this.
and… does this mean we’ll know F’s age soon
what to get Farah? A welcome home basket filled with goodies…
I think she like it…since y’know it’s a home thing
The fact Of if M has a relationship or not with Pc. Is totally subjective.
In my opinion is a open relationship (In theory I know he doesn’t go with others) But for a character perspective He is sincere and say I want this type of relationship. You could agree or not.
My pc with him feels the same yeag, cool a open sexual only relationship. Still a relationship. That with time will mutate something more romantic. Still a sane consensual relationship
Yeah, I got it the first time. I think it would involve more than that. People would want acknowledgment that they were in a triangle: lingering glances, quiet brooding, etc. So then there’d have to be coding for whoever you went with and what things you did with the one left behind. Why? Because people want their choices to mean something. It seems to me like it would be too much work (all the variations). So having the LT go for books without an early out makes sense to me.
I just think it’s more intensive coding than checking to see whether the MC has slept with M or not.
And again, no matter how many times you bring this up, I’m going to disagree with you on this point. So let’s just drop it.
So clubbing, dancing, places with lots of noise and people where F can get involved, M can mope in a corner,
Oh dear… My detective would be torn (no matter which romance path; since F is my mc’s best friend during M’s route and vice-versa) between having a good time with F and/or trying to… distract M. So that they do not have to mope. Innocently helping a colleague out.
Then again, why not both!?!
I agree that, should the MC have sex with M, it’s a type of relationship (I’d call it fuck buddies, but am not sure that’s accurate, since M won’t view the MC as a friend much sooner than the romance takes to play out). An ‘open’ relationship might be a good description, or maybe just calling it a purely casual sexual relationship would be accurate. And I have no problem with that or calling it what it is. (I think M would take issue with using the word ‘relationship’ at all in the description, though.)
But what do you call it for the MCs who decide not to have sex with M? That’s an option–you can choose not to have sex until there are feelings from M or even never to have sex at all. Calling that a relationship–not friends, not lovers, M flirts with the MC and keeps trying to get into their pants and has no other interest at all until way in the future–is a huge stretch. It really is just a flirtation and buildup (and is the same if the MC has sex with them, too, really, since the sex means absolutely nothing and is just scratching an itch).
With the sex involved, it’s easy to stick a label on it as a relationship, even if it’s an open one or sex-only thing. Without the sex, it becomes obvious really fast that it’s not a relationship at all and won’t be until way on down the line. Then again, even being teammates with someone is a type of relationship, so there’s that. But since it’s a romance game, until there are some kind of feelings involved (other than “I want to bang your brains out and couldn’t care less about you other than that”), it’s really not a relationship in that sense. From what I’ve gathered from asks and answers, Sera considers the buildup, flirtation, and tropes to be the most important parts, anyway, so it makes sense there’s virtually no relationship until the end, in some paths.
I just want to point out that such a statement would never come from M.
Because one of M’s kinks is consent.
I am not saying that you said M would make such a statement or think in such a way. I just felt the need to clarify that, in case some people would begin to think so and/or get confused.
Huh?? Where is there not consent in that? He says in the demo that all he wants is to get into the MC’s pants and even says he’s not interested in the MC’s history or whatever… the statement above is the same thing, just worded differently. There’s no hint of M wanting to rape the MC! Geez!
And to clarify:
M in demo says, “I’m just hoping to get into your pants”–i.e., “I want sex” = “I want to bang your brains out”.
M, in the demo, says, “I’m not asking for a life history”–i.e., “couldn’t care less about you” (or your stupid story).
Anyway, there was NO lack of consent in what I wrote. Wanting to screw someone and not being interested in anything else does NOT imply lack of consent. It simply implies lack of a desire for anything other than sex, hence what I wrote.
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And, furthermore, the whole “I just want to screw you and couldn’t care less about you other than that (i.e., the sex)” is exactly who Sera has always said M was–into casual sexual encounters, most of which don’t last more than one night or session, and who flat out tells the MC all they want is sex with no strings. Sure, we know it’ll eventually become more than that, but the characters don’t, and M sure as bloody hell doesn’t want it to be more than that or to have any pesky feelings arise.
It really depends on how you RP it. You’re not leading N on if you’re making an honest try of it. And given that there never was any relationship with A to begin with, it’s not a rebound either.
In real life people rarely end up with the person who attracted them most strongly, and there is a lot more to a great relationship than just physical attraction. When someone to whom you feel an extremely strong attraction rejects you, most people move on. If they change their mind later then things can get messy if circumstances prevent you from immediately pushing them out of your life to preserve your existing relationship. Emotions are not always entirely logical or easily controlled, and strong feelings can develop during extended close contact even if repressed and never acted upon. You’ll have a tough choice to make then, or maybe not.
Well, in my opinion, a statement like that implies that someone does not care about their bed partner whatsoever other than the sex, which can mean a lot of things. Uncomfortable situations included. Because someone who does not care for their bed partner other than sex could also care less for their consent.
Please, I am not trying to rile you up or to prove you wrong. I merely wanted to clarify that for M consent is of importance.
You are mistaken consent meaning. He only want sex he said it you agree It is a perfect sane consensual relationship. I know people that only wants sex in their relationship and in rest act like friends or even less. They planning their bang schedule and keeping with their lives merry. Consent doesn’t mean love . Is simply accept freely something without being forced.
I understand what you mean. Feelings could made us blind and illogical at times IRL but when I play these games, I don’t usually RP and I think logically about the situation my MCs are in and whether I like it or not, I usually instill in them some of my beliefs.
I don’t really enjoy the LT option because in the end, I know someone will get hurt, which I don’t like when I am reading something. That’s why I don’t RP because I take things to heart so much. =(
Well, all I did was reword what we were given in the demo and what we’ve been told repeatedly, so I’m not seeing it. Consent is the ONLY thing M cares about with a sexual partner, along with making sure they enjoy themselves because it’s a pride thing. But on a personal level? Hell no. That’s what the whole “I’m not asking for a life history” comment was all about (which was funny and ironic, since the MC was asking M about themselves and not sharing crap about the MC with M). M doesn’t want to know the person they’re screwing past “do you want this?” and making sure it blows their partner’s mind.
And I never said consent wasn’t of importance to M or even implied it. The comment was simply to show that M’s all about casual sex, no strings, no feelings, no attachments, and (apparently) very few repeat performances.
I rp and still believe that doesn’t matter what Pc wants to hide emotions is still wrong. However, In a game I d usually care, but like I don’t find it funny is not something I will play
I think this is enough. @L_M @EvilChani
It is pretty clear we view M differently so it’s time to move on.