So we can be classified as a God and if I remember correctly that girl built a multi-dimensional structure composed of three intricate layers which I can’t seem to remember what they contained but it seemed really impenetrable so what’s her ability
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You just need to know, even if all of humanity on earth unites against GM MC, MC will slaughter them easily (the only creature on earth that MC can’t kill (it seems) is Alexis), but MC can seal her
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Joy is a hypocrite and it is quite obvious that people made the decision to name her leader too quickly, when the all-powerful MC confronts her, that girl has the nerve to say “oh, powerful people are so immature and impulsive” when she herself is the same, she has many more things in common with Adam than she thinks and something tells me (although it’s just a hunch of mine) that is precisely why she defends him, in some way she identifies with him and that is why she insists on defending him so much, I do not buy her story that she does it for the good of humanity, that girl is so immature that as soon as the MC was about to eliminate Adam she ran straight to cry to Aurora, if she is as mature as she claims to be she should have gone to face the consequences of her own actions, but no, she ran away to hide behind her allies like a little child who hides behind their parents for fear of facing punishment after doing something wrong, she is not fit to be a leader, dont get me wrong, She has good intentions but having good actions is not enough to be a good leader, I wouldn’t trust someone like her with the care of a simple plant, much less the care of hundreds of teenagers, if she was capable of selling out someone who trusted her before nothing would stop her from doing it again and again, if she cared so much about the good of humanity she would have already done something to try to control Adam instead of letting that rabid dog roam everywhere, that girl by giving him Ari practically gave him the key to make him even more dangerous. I have no doubt that if any other version of the MC becomes powerful enough to kill Adam, Joy will do the pathetic act of running crying into the arms of Aurora or some other of her allies again so they can clean up her mess for her. I really want to kill Adam and the only use I see for someone like him is to become a shadow soldier under the orders of my necromancer MC (my main route) at least that way his powers wouldn’t be wasted on someone like him, I would kill Joy too but I seriously want to romance Aurora and seeing how she is she will probably get mad at me if I kill too many people and turn them into undead slaves so I guess I’ll have to settle with Adam’s death and only that, but I really hope that we can at least take the leadership position away from Joy and give it to someone more suitable than her, if that’s possible I will definitely do it. She is not a good leader. Maybe she could be a good second in command, or maybe a good recruiter, but a leader? No way. She doesn’t have what it takes for the job.
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I mean you can say that, but apparently Elvis made her the leader of their group for a reason. I mean she’s clearly been doing something good. obviously GM MC is an anomaly, but regular MCs clearly wouldn’t go down like that. not even defending her because she deserves a horrible fate. also you are talking about letting her live lol, only GM MC has the luxury of being like that. Other regular MCs can get ganged up on you’d have to take on Adam and his group, then Aurora+ Joy and then Elvis would show up. Yes regular MC would be strong but you actually need allies those routes. Purple dude is a problem for god mode MC I remember reading on tumblr his powers were so broken author had to think of ways to nerf him. plus he still has his monarchs. back to joy I don’t think she’s a bad leader honestly she made difficult choices, she’s a dumb leader yes and honestly only on GM MC route. i want to punish joy but not kill her though.
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You misunderstood me, I know that any option related to Joy and her leadership won’t be available in the near future, I don’t need it to be in the near future, I said I’ll do it as soon as I can, besides… my necromancer mc really doesn’t need allies, the guy is literally a one-man army, are you forgetting that? and honestly his potential is one of the most terrifying since his ability is not only to revive souls of dead people, if you happen to kill anyone and use their essence it’s basically like acquiring for yourself the ability of the person you killed since you just need to resurrect him as part of your army and that’s it, the person who had that ability is under your absolute control and from what I’ve seen the abilities of the person that you can turn into an undead do not weaken in the slightest, someone like that does not need allies, his shadows are more than enough allies if there are many of them and if among them there are powerful shadows you should be fine in almost any battle and as for Joy… you seem to forget two things about her boyfriend: the first is that his power drove him a little crazy and well, no matter how much wisdom the cosmos can give him, the guy is still a slightly crazy teenager so sorry if I don’t take that guy very seriously, how do you know that his powers even had anything to do with the fact that he supported Joy as a leader? again, he’s a teenager, he could have just supported her because Joy is his girlfriend and that’s it, the second thing you forget is that I doubt his ability can give him direct advice or even tell him how every little event is going to play out, ¿how do you know the universe didn’t tell Elvis that Joy had to be in power because someone needed to take her down someday and brcome a better leader? Joy is a bad leader because she couldn’t even deal with a super powerful bully like Adam, Adam asked Joy to hand over Ari to him and Joy like a stupid accepted without taking into account that accepting the demands of that rabid dog was setting a precedent, now Adam knows that Joy will bend to any demand he makes for fear of facing him, bullies like Adam are not satisfied with just asking for one thing, you don’t even need to be very smart to know that, it’s common sense, that day it was just Ari, but nothing prevents Adam from coming back one day and asking Joy to give him more people, and what will she do then? seeing that Ari ended up like a brainwashed doll I think we already know the answer, if Joy can’t even deal with a crisis like the one she faced when dealing with Adam I don’t want to imagine what would happen if she was in charge when the invasion of the monarchs begins, which are much more powerful than Adam
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I have heard more people called bitch in this thread than the entire rest of the forum. What did these people do to upset you so much?
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I’ve never wanted a fictional character to die as bad as I want Adam to die. It’s insane. That’s good writing.
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im basing Elvis off of tumblr asks answered of why he supported her. you seem to misunderstand Adam only needs Ari literally he just wants power to get stronger joy solution was to satisfy his crave with ari. bad leader? how many people in history of the world have made compromises? great leader for her group since she got Adam to stop bothering them. you fail to realize she’s not the only leader in the world. there’s multiple groups btw, if anything aurora would be the one to lead everyone if things went down with monarchs since she was strongest group leader unless it changed. she accomplished her mission and goal for Adam off her back. bought herself some time. well I’m over this topic now it’s been too long
yeah why not, we have to grant the sociopathic kid’s demands and buy us a few months of time, it’s not like things can get any worse, I mean it’s not like Ari can turn the human time bomb into a human nuke by giving him more power… or wait, that’s exactly what happened, Joy has a lot of people in her care and many of them are on the lower power scale, Adam wants to kill everyone at that level, therefore Adam is a threat to her group, and now Joy’s improved her chances of destroying all those lives she’s supposed to protect by giving someone who wants the destruction of all human life even more powerful, I don’t understand how that’s supposed to be a good decision, how is it a good decision to make someone who wants to kill a good portion of your group more powerful? the “ends justify the means” thing doesn’t count here, because for that to work you’d have to choose a lesser evil instead of a greater evil or on the other hand, doing something bad that ended up being good in the end, and making someone who wants to blow up all life on the planet more powerful is NOT a lesser evil, ¿honestly? I would have preferred to take my chances against a weaker version of adam than a more powerful one, ¿why? because even if i give him what he wants he’ll just come back a while later and kill me anyway, so if adam is going to try to kill all those people with or without Ari… then why give it to him and improve his chances?
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Love the premise—post‑apocalyptic teens with unique powers and big moral choices sounds epic! The huge branching paths and open romance options promise tons of replayability. Just finished the demo and I’m hooked; can’t wait for the next update. Keep it up!
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She didn’t accomplish anything mate.
What she did was appease Adam.
Appeasement. Is what she did.
Ask anyone who’s ever had to deal with a rouge state, national or country how well that works.
The only time appeasement was used cleverly was when it was used to buying time for a more permanent solution in the future.
We know that’s not what she’s doing though since she said herself in the GM MC route that she would stop anyone trying to kill Adam.
Like I said a while ago mate I’ve looked at this from every point (cause it live in my head rent free) and the facts are as leader she absolutely sucks.
A good leader shows their worth when the times are tough and who’s choices are basically an echo of the group as a whole.
With that said my man would YOU willingly follow Joy knowing that if she came face to face with a tough choice, she would choose sacrifice you?
I would talk about all the ways she contradicts herself but that would take too long.
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So I’m guessing that if you were in Joy’s group. The only reason why you don’t have a Psychopath God Class knocking at your door, causing an infighting between the only 1000 left of the human race, that would no doubt lead to a lot of deaths, and the only way this was prevented was through a deal of sacrificing someone else who’s power isn’t fully discovered yet (because it’s stated by Joy and proven through Ari’s memories that they have no idea what she was fully capable of). You would still object to this deal, knowing that the chance of you making it to see tomorrow is uncertain.
However, I do get your point. If Joy claims to be doing this for the future of humanity, then I wouldn’t want to be part of a future that falls to selling off their own whenever times get tough or unfair.
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So is it impossible for us to kill Aurora?
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No it’s physically possible.
You SHOULD be able to kill her.
Wither you’ll get to is a different story.
Though I don’t know why you’d want to do that.
She’s naive but otherwise blame less.
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Ngl this update really soured me on joy’s character too and i agree with most of what you said, but I think your operating under the assumption that joy knew what ari’s powers were which going by ari’s own memories I don’t think she did otherwise she would have put up more of a fight than she did, that’s not to say I don’t think she shouldn’t share some of the blame but i think most of that blame people are putting on her should be put squarely on alexis because she’s the one who told adam about ari in the first place.
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Just making sure we are still the strongest
She unknowingly gave humanity’s worst enemy the key they needed to destroy them.
If she was as smart as she thinks she is you would think she would be smart enough to put two and two together and figure out
“if your enemy wants something bad enough to be willing to murder a large amount of people remaining on earth, it’s probably not smart to give it to them without knowing what it is or what it does or why they want it”
But no. She’s not. She not half as smart or competent as she thinks she is.
Like I said mate. Absolutely sucks as a leader.
And she thinks humanity needs her in charge to survive.
Adam and her both have severe case of messiah syndrome.
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yes, she is EXTRAORDINARILY naive, almost as much as a child, and in fact that is what worries me about that girl, that is also part of the reason why if my MC can accept being a member of Aurora’s group he will definitely accept it, that girl, unlike Joey in fact could be an extraordinary leader in the future, she already has some of the necessary knowledge,she was royalty and surely she was trained for the possibility of being a leader since she was a little girl, and her first steps as a leader are giving good results from what I could see, but someone like her is too good and innocent for the apocalypse, she is definitely not made for that world, she is lucky to have a power that makes her almost totally immune to any attack against her person but all her effort could come crashing down like a house of cards because of how naive she is, even if not even Adam can hurt her that does not mean that girl is not in danger, as naive and innocent as she is someone with good skills to manipulate and deceive could end up manipulating her in some way that puts her entire group in danger, for example, if Adam sent Murphy to infiltrate our current group that makes me think that it’s very likely that there’s one in Aurora’s group too, and maybe it’s even someone that girl trusts a lot, that’s exactly why I would really like to join Aurora’s group, unlike Joy, I think that princess could really become a true pillar of humanity, she just needs trustworthy people on her side and someone to help her work on that worrying idealistic naivety of hers, we already have two teenagers with messiah complexes in this story, I would really like to help that girl before she develops a savior complex, that would not end well for her and I suspect that the morale of humanity would fall through the floor if something bad happened to Aurora, heck, even if that girl weren’t a romantic option I would still try to join her, of all the most relevant factions she’s the one with the least firepower in case that there is some crisis, Joana’s group has Ron and even without him they have a lot of powerful people, Adam’s group doesn’t need protection as long as that rabid dog and Alexis are around, the leader of the Korean group is probably armed to the teeth with that ability of hers, Joy has her boyfriend, Aurora has nobody, her power has no offensive capabilities, that’s exactly why I feel that the best place for my character is with her, that way I can take care of her and make sure she doesn’t make any decisions that are too idealistic or naive, her group gets a guy that’s practically a one-man army just in case the group is ever in danger, I strengthen my army of shadows with whoever Adam’s infiltrator minion is and my character manages to get a nice and sweet romantic partner who also happens to be a princess, everyone wins, well, except Adam but who cares about that rabid dog anyways 
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umm you realize that Auroras group is the strongest right lol? they live in a paradise compared to others, no firepower? guessing we just haven’t met her firepower?
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