To be fair there are a couple other details that could help to explain why people are upset as to the character being king even if they act fully Machiavellian and do everything they can to appease the people. But these could only technically work under the assumption that people actively work against you/ have no issues spreading gossip i.e. Richards mom and employee’s of the castle. So I could be wrong
Firstly: The kingdom as a whole seems to largely be martial in a cultural aspect with the literal succession being done by a holy sword and the traditions of a new king going for a hunt. Under this culture enemies of your reign could use the fact that you fell off your horse as a young boy as a point of “oh look he’s no warrior he can’t even ride a horse properly”.
Secondly: The kingdom has several issues already in effect by the time of your coronation, there is an active war and the economy is on the downspiral with no foreseeable future of getting better as of the games ending, especially because you just spent a good amount of money to acquire antidotes for the poisoning as explained by Catalina.
Finally: The two favored candidates were Atheris and Richard as they were both first-born children of the king and their respective mom’s and it is sort of explained in the beginning that typically the youngest is not chosen to become the Monarch, thus it might be assumed that Richard’s mom has no issue with using the preemptive support built for these two against you in the form of making their supporters want to revolt. As it is important to remember her goal is not necessarily for Richard to end up king, but for your mother to end up “Punished” for what she did.
However I do agree that their hatred towards your character is unrealistic with how vehement it is.
If the culture of the kingdom is martial, should they not love you more? I feel like this game seems forget that you Literally have complete and utterly unquestionable divine right,you were chosen by the sword. Anyone who goes against you is saying “I know more than Namherys himself”, which hardly seems like something an entire kingdom of believers would do.
Yeah that’s fair, it is seemingly unrealistic that followers of a religion where the holy sword of a god picks the ruler would be so against the leader picked and it would be something that actually reinforces the leader picked. But again when it comes to solely martial accomplishments all your character has done at least in the eyes of the people anyway is 1. Maintained the current alliances that were upheld during King Charles’ rule. 2. Killed the traitor who killed your own father (Possibly). 3. Killed/ let the people punish the person who poisoned your kingdom (Possibly). Beyond that your character hasn’t done a whole lot martial wise.
Based on the suggestions, I genuinely believe the Sword of Rhivenia should get an update that addresses these things and fixes stuff before continuing to focus on the next game. However that is up to the author!
Yes, because there literally isn’t a choice - there isn’t a single check outside of hunting rabbits. You could have perfectly had a moment where you can use your swordsmanship to kill the rebels who try to assassinate you, but noo, you just have to be treated as an useless fool the entire game.
It’s a big railroad. It’s like the writing itself favours Richard. He does fuck all his entire life, and everyone loves him. You’re an competent, wise ruler who is chosen, and everyone hates you for no particular reason at all.
I’ve become king without even trying before but now that I’m actually trying to I can’t seem to be able to do it.
Also is there a way to become king without basely acting like a little kid that’s saying pick me pick me… any time someone asks about the sword?
Because I wanted to play as an MC that didn’t care or even want to be king but ended up being picked anyway you know have my MC suffer and all that.
@A_Z_U_I_A Yeah like the game In the Service of Mrs. Claus was updated I think a year after it came out to fix and add some stuff and that’s a game COG made too so it does happen sometimes.
Oh and by the way! If the author is reading these, the fact that this game should get some sort of update is nothing against the author or intending to imply that the game is bad! It wanted to say this because I feel like the suggestion might seem that way at first glance, but there are many acclaimed and beloved interactive fictions out there that are updated and revised after they are published!
Richard never bothered me any lol. He’s childish sometimes, but they ARE young, so it’s expected. Older brothers are basically programmed to get on their younger sibling’s nerves imo.
Yeah I agree with you that based upon all the information given to the player it is an absolute railroad of Richard being the most favored one and everyone hating your player character for no actual reason, and the fact that yes besides just trying to maintain the status quo from your father there is no actual good choice presented to prove your character. But think of it this way, your mother is disfavored by the current monarch in the beginning of the story so she probably can’t do a whole lot in terms of being able to influence members of the public populace. However Richard’s mother is publicly placed into a position of favor along with her son with Richard being the only child who was able to personally train with the king, so it wouldn’t take that much effort from her to continuously present this as evidence that Richard is a better choice overall. This opinion would persist even after your were selected, to be honest it would be to a much smaller degree than as is presented but it would still be there.
As a note I’m simply trying to play the devil’s advocate here as I think trying to realize these details and thinking about them add to the overall enjoyment of the story, for me anyway.
I think thats another problem, we dodn’t have a real glossary or how is the life of the average Rhivenian soo we basicaly know shit about their culture outside of them worshiping a glorified shiny Sword
This thing bothers me a little bit, wouldn’t Atheris be more favoured by the Rhivenians if they had a martial culture? She is ruthless and more than willing to kill people that stand in her way for the Throne, ruthless and a competent if not skilled swordsman, she is basicaly Charles if he was a girl
But i agree with your other points, the economy is in shambles so of course some people would get pissed lol
I’m pretty sure you can become the monarch without being a pick me when it comes to the sword. I think the main thing that matters for the sword is the leadership stat, but I could be misremembering
Richard is a little bitch who whines about fucking everything - we’re in the middle of a war but weh weh weh i don’t wanna marry this princess!!! I wanna marry clara, even if she doesn’t care about me. If he becomes king, it’s weh, weh, weh i don’t wanna marry lena, i wanna marry clara!!!. Worst of all, when people are literally rebelling, he’s all Lol, not my fault, i’m not going to tell them to stop
And before you say “But his mother is manipulating him!!”, well, if all it takes is his mother telling him to betray his brother for him to do it, then he’s a traitor.
But what annoys me the most is how much the writing favours him. All the time, everyone loves him, and everyone who doesn’t is shown to be unreasonable. You work your ass off to become a wise ruler and spend all your free time in the library, and yet he’s still the favoured. He just breezes through life and gets angry when you don’t let him do whatever he wants.
Uh… I think you play differently than I do because when I tell Richard he needs to do something about his rebelling supporters he says he will and basically if they do anything to MC again they’ll regret it.
Yeah I, think though this is actually where her main support in the story as a favored heir comes from. Thinking under the assumption of Richard’s mom getting involved though it would be quite simple to downplay this as “Oh yeah, she is good. But she isn’t good enough to be able to spar with the King like my son is”. Which is why her and Richard will constantly poke each other about this detail with him using it as a point of pride to which she will then point out he wasn’t good enough to hunt for a deer, and then they only hate each other more.
You must have too weak of a relationship with him then. If you have a bad relationship with him, he acts accordingly lol. Anything Clara-related will put you on his bad side, I’m pretty sure
Even if his mother is propaganding against us - which again, we have no option of dealing with, it’s disappointing you have no ways to improve your standing no matter how much you do.
If he hates me to the point of allowing a rebellion against his own brother to go on because this girl didn’t pick him and i acted in the good of the kingdom, he deserves getting a one-way ticket to meeting Uncle Francis. But i’m sure everyone would say i’m the literal devil if i hurt the precious Richard.
I wouldn’t exactly say that the writting favours Richard but I understand the sentiment, Richard comes out as “Prince Charming” for the People but that comes to bite in his ass since he is too idealistic and naive to understand that he either has to choose his people or having “Happily Ever After” with Clara, hell i would say him becoming the King is the path that fucks the Kingdom up while Atheris and Mc have a overall better chance against Erwan
I know you can become king without being a pick-me character because I did it a lot in the WIP but from what these people and others have said you kind of have been that character in the full game to become king.
Now with that being said how the hell do you even get your leadership stat up?
@Just_browsing I do pick to read whenever given the choice as I love playing as a character that’s very intelligent but I didn’t see the point in hurting other than when you go with the king.
So that’s probably what’s stopping me from becoming king.
