The Price of Freedom - Vigilante superheroes vs government enforcers

this sounds similar a few video games of old, with tweaks here and there. this does sound like a reasonably interesting choose your adventure or whatever the accepted name was for this genre that wasn’t already copyrighted. I was fond of this style of game the superhero/villain and the Joe thrust in a major power struggle for humanity idea.
i hope you go through with this game but, just remember to take your time and try not to burn yourself out or buckle to the occasional pressure random poster might or might not put on you. have a good thanksgiving and Halloween and such above all else life comes first so dont strain your schoolwork and dont forget to get plenty of relaxation time in between everything

Both sides are sound like heroes but
Is there a choice for the straight up villlains
And how is our powers going to be decided?

Here’s the thing to me:

I don’t want to see something in which it’s the Good Guys Who Are All Good vs. the Bad Guys Who Are All Bad (it has its place, and I may like it more than you do, but I’m fine with this not being one of those places), but I’d much rather if we’re having a situation in which both sides have good and bad have this be a choice between something like King Harlaus and Lady Isolla of Suno ( in Mount and Blade ) - where each side can be seen as having a “legitimate claim” than something between V and the government, where neither side is worth having blood on my hands and where I as a person whose strength makes a damn bit of difference would prefer to pursue “I encourage the people to reject both.”

There’s something significant that you’re missing here- the binding drive for the Vigilantes is “we want to topple the Oligarchy,” and the binding drive for the Enforcers is “we want to preserve the Oligarchy.” Why anyone wants either of those things is entirely dependent on the individual. Both sides have good people. Both sides have bad people. Both sides have people who value order over freedom, and vice verse. Both sides have people who care only about their own survival and are simply sticking with the side they think is going to come out on top. It’s all about the individual. If that’s not your cup of tea, that’s fine.

Regarding one of your earlier posts, the term “Vigilante” comes from the fact that the Vigilantes continue to fight crime but are not government sanctioned, and as such are taking the law into their own hands. They are literal vigilantes.

This also reminds me of a run they did in marvel where the government backed by Iron Man wanted all superheroes to register their identities with them. Captain America refuses and leads a all out war on it. Don’t remember how it ends tho. But this does sound really sweet. Hope u make it

Assuming that was directed at me (possibly including others):

I don’t mind if this isn’t the kind of game for me - when you’re done with requesting feedback on the idea of :: Game Name Here :: is going to be, if it’s not what I’d prefer I’ll just wish you the best of luck at creating a satisfying and enjoyable game and leave it at that. If every game on this site was tailored to me this site would be a lot less interesting.

But if this is an “interest check”, with an intent of getting responses up, well, if both the Council and the Vigilantes have fair points, that would be my natural inclination (fight for something other than total victory for either, if it’s worth fighting at all) in this situation, so why does the PC have to choose between all one or all the other?

Ao do you have a set powers for the mc or will we have a few choice to pick from? Sorry if you all ready answerd it

That makes sense. In this situation, however, there’s no third option because it really is one or the other- you either want the Oligarchy, or you don’t. I suppose it could be that you don’t support the Oligarchy, but also aren’t fond of the Vigilantes’ methods. I’ll see what I can do in the way of a third plotline, but I’m not entirely sure I’ll actually be able to complete both of the ones I already have planned. It’ll go on the back burner for now.

Thank you for your feedback.

@vampierkid222 I’m planning on having four to six choices. I’ll post a few in a little while, to see which ones people like the most.

Third plotline!?
Plz be villains, plz be villains, plz be villains…

“I want to reform the oligarchy, not destroy it” is a thing, though. Maybe an enforcer subplot if you want to do it that way.

But if you can for time or interest constraints only do those two plotlines, well, better two good storylines than three poor ones.

Thank you for listening to my feedback. I think it’s nice that you have a strong idea of a story without making it all good guys or all bad guys - my personal tastes in black and white causes or not, having not all the people on the PC’s side (whichever side it is) be good guys makes things much more interesting.

Reform the Oligarchy is an Enforcer motivation, yes. Would y’all like for me to post the motivations I’m currently working with? I’ll write up a quick summary of each.

Will there be romance?

Please do - I’m sure there’s going to be plenty of “and something else”, but having a sense of the broad strokes you’re thinking of that would matter as far as choices we get would help.

This sounds so cool! I’d definitely play it.

I think it would be cool of you if you could include a nonbinary option?

Alright, here are the motivations I’ve been working with so far:

Vigilantes:

  • I oppose the Oligarchy because I believe that democracy is the system of government that can best serve a nation’s people. I seek to overthrow it to help reassert democracy.
  • I oppose the Oligarchy because its corrupt laws serve this nation’s rulers rather than its people. I seek to serve justice that protects the nation’s people, and if I must overthrow the Oligarchy to accomplish this, so be it.
  • I oppose the Oligarchy because, as a (former) villain, I do not want to become “legitimized” at the cost of becoming a puppet for the government. I seek to overthrow it so that I can maintain my autonomy.
  • I oppose the Oligarchy because of crimes it has committed against those I care for. I seek to overthrow it to avenge them.

Enforcers:

  • I support the Oligarchy because the amenities afforded to Enforcers are far beyond what I could earn as a regular superhero. I seek to uphold it because I do not want to return to the poverty of my youth.
  • I support the Oligarchy because I value order over freedom. I seek to uphold it because I feel the any law is better than no law, and the chaos the Oligarchy’s collapse could potentially cause is far worse than any atrocity it could commit.
  • I support the Oligarchy because “legitimization” has made my life as a villain much easier. I seek to uphold it because the resources and support I receive are absolutely worth paying the (admittedly steep) tribute and sacrificing some of my autonomy.
  • Though I am morally opposed to the Oligarchy, I support it because I don’t want to end up on the wrong side of history. I seek to uphold it because my own survival is paramount; though the Vigilantes are morally right, they are vastly outgunned and doomed to fail.
  • Though I am morally opposed to the Oligarchy, I support it because I am also morally opposed to violent insurrection. I seek to uphold it because it is better to reform a corrupt government than to overthrow it.

If you have any other ideas please don’t hesitate to share them!

@StarWarsMaster I’m planning on it, yes. I’m thinking of including four to six options, but as with everything else, that’s entirely dependent on how much I can achieve given my other commitments.

@RedRoses I want to, certainly. If I can, I’ll use they as a gender-neutral singular for the pronoun. At risk of repeating myself ad naseum, it really depends on how much I can manage around my commitments.

Once again, thanks to everyone who has given feedback. If y’all are interested, I could post some of the short bios I have typed up for the main cast.

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I think if we’re just talking personal motivations, I can think of more, but I think that’s about all that could have “So what do you choose to do in response to this?” power in the plot - at least without making this much more complicated to write.

Seems like most people (playing heroes) would lean to the Vigilantes, but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

I have to say that I love the concept and I’m excited for a preview of any kind.

All right. My weekends are going to pretty clogged from here to mid-November, but I’ll try to get a text sample up next Sunday, just so y’all can see my writing style.

Quick question- the impression I got from the “make your own games” section is that it’s difficult to work with ChoiceScript on Chrome, which could pose a problem. I operate primarily off a Chromebook, which can’t run any software that’s not made by Google. While there is a PC I can use, my dad’s a bit tetchy about other people touching it, so my access would be limited at best. Can I do the coding direct in Dropbox?

I’m not sure if you can do it directly in the dropbox, but you could try Google Docs, that should work on a Chromebook, right?

Docs is definitely an option. The passage that confused me was

“To begin, download the ChoiceScript source from GitHub, extract the zip file, and open the web/index.html file in Firefox. (We strongly recommend using Firefox for this test; in particular, Google Chrome won’t work due to a security bug in Chrome.) The game will immediately begin.”